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Proof That Dinosaurs and Man Co-Existed

Ploughboy said:
I can't think of any elephant with a tale that sways like a cedar tree. Crocodiles do not have bones like described to the Behemoth nor do crocodiles feed on grass. The Behemoth was a very large creature that was vegetarian in diet that had the tail the size of a cedar tree. We don't have anything on earth today that matches this description. But there was a time in earth history when such a creature did exist and the cave painting of 9 warriors hunting a Sauropod does give us a strong clue what this Behemoth was.
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THIS is what they were probably referring to re a 'behemoth' that shook it's tail like a cedar tree.



Not this:

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Cedar trees in middle east regions are different to ones in the US.
 
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This debate has always been very strange to me. I have always believed in God, very strongly, and I have never doubted mainstream science. In fact, I am very comfortable with evolution. I don't understand why some people have a difficult time with science and faith in God.
 
Ploughboy said:
Every cave painting, engraving and pottery posted here is 100% authentic. It proves that ancient man had encounters with dinosaurs that survived the Flood. The Book of Job is very ancient and in most all literature of the 2000 B.C. era we will find some literary evidence for dinosaurs and man and all ancient antiquity. I have not investigated the dragon legends of China and India yet. I did find a couple from ancient Sumer in which took me some time in the Sumerian lexicon to confirm the meaning of a single word. But the Sumerians also mention dinosaurs.
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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/stegosaurus-rhinoceros-or-hoax-40387948/


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SheWolf said:
This debate has always been very strange to me. I have always believed in God, very strongly, and I have never doubted mainstream science. In fact, I am very comfortable with evolution. I don't understand why some people have a difficult time with science and faith in God.
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Christians believe that the Bible is the true word of god and therefore infallible.

The Bible says God created man as he exists today.

Evolution disproves that.

If you pick and choose what to believe as literal and what to assume is metaphor, you're simply compromising your beliefs.
 
Ploughboy said:
..dinosaurs did survive the Flood only to go extinct later. If it can be demonstrated that dinosaurs living during the same time as mankind, then that places evolution theory is a serious and unsolvable dilemma!

The Bible does not go into great detail on dinosaurs but there are a few passages that refer to dinosaurs.

Then there is this from the BDB

This is a very large creature. The description here sounds a lot like a Sauropod. In the next post I will lay down a case in support of these Biblical passages. You can decide for yourself whether this solves the dinosaur mystery or not. Also keep in mind that the word dinosaur is a modern word first coined by Sir Richard Owen in 1841...
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None of those Bible verses can be said to refer to any dinosaur...the Bible is full of fantastic beasts from the whale that swallowed Jonah to the "beast" itself in Revelation

No cave painting will ever be proof either. There are cave painting that show images that superficially look like astronauts.

How about a dinosaur skeleton that's a few thousand years old ? THAT would be proof of dinosaurs living with people.


I wonder that thousands of years into the future, people will look at children's toys and think that super-heroes co-existed with people in 2018.
 
Proof That Dinosaurs and Man Co-Existed
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Rich2018 said:
I wonder that thousands of years into the future, people will look at children's toys and think that super-heroes co-existed with people in 2018.
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I too have often wondered which modern fictional elements will be unearthed as ideological cornerstones in a future separated from us by some cataclysmic event and/or prolonged period of global social deterioration.


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Omega Man said:
I too have often wondered which modern fictional elements will be unearthed as ideological cornerstones in a future separated from us by some cataclysmic event and/or prolonged period of global social deterioration.


OM
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Have you read this?

Winner of the 1961 Hugo Award for Best Novel and widely considered one of the most accomplished, powerful, and enduring classics of modern speculative fiction, Walter M. Miller, Jr.'s A Canticle for Leibowitz is a true landmark of twentieth-century literature—a chilling and still provocative look at a post-apocalyptic future.

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https://www.goodreads.com/book/photo/164154.A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz
 
Rich2018 said:
Christians believe that the Bible is the true word of god and therefore infallible.

The Bible says God created man as he exists today.

Evolution disproves that.

If you pick and choose what to believe as literal and what to assume is metaphor, you're simply compromising your beliefs.
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Evolution does not disprove God. If your understanding of the world is challeged, you would become an atheist. Not me. Man is fallible, and so your understanding of the text can be fallible. It does not mean the word of God is wrong or flawed. It means you don't understand the creation
 
zyzygy said:
Have you read this?

Winner of the 1961 Hugo Award for Best Novel and widely considered one of the most accomplished, powerful, and enduring classics of modern speculative fiction, Walter M. Miller, Jr.'s A Canticle for Leibowitz is a true landmark of twentieth-century literature—a chilling and still provocative look at a post-apocalyptic future.

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I have not, and that really looks up my alley. I think I shall add that to my list.

Thank you.


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Omega Man said:
I have not, and that really looks up my alley. I think I shall add that to my list.

Thank you.


OM
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When it was first published one of the reviews said that it was too good to be science fiction.
 
SheWolf said:
Evolution does not disprove God....
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Evolution disproves the creation. It therefore disproves Genesis.

It therefore disproves the Bible and reduces it to a random collection of ancient stories on the same level as The Arabian Nights.



...if your understanding of the world is challenged, you would become an atheist. Not me. Man is fallible, and so your understanding of the text can be fallible. It does not mean the word of God is wrong or flawed. It means you don't understand the creation
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Same cop-out the church has been using for centuries.

Science disproves a part of the Bible and theists rush to "re-interpret" what the Bible actually means.

The Bible, sadly for Christians, says some simple, straightforward things...like god making man in his own image. ie: man did NOT evolve.
Man was created as he is now.

God created the heavens in a single day.

The Earth is solid and doesn't move.

Sorry, Christians are just revisionists...they can't even agree amongst themselves what is literal and what is metaphor.


Do you believe that the entire planet was consumed by a global flood ?
 
Rich2018 said:
Evolution disproves the creation. It therefore disproves Genesis.

It therefore disproves the Bible and reduces it to a random collection of ancient stories on the same level as The Arabian Nights.






Same cop-out the church has been using for centuries.

Science disproves a part of the Bible and theists rush to "re-interpret" what the Bible actually means.

The Bible, sadly for Christians, says some simple, straightforward things...like god making man in his own image. ie: man did NOT evolve.
Man was created as he is now.

God created the heavens in a single day.

The Earth is solid and doesn't move.

Sorry, Christians are just revisionists...they can't even agree amongst themselves what is literal and what is metaphor.


Do you believe that the entire planet was consumed by a global flood ?
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I am not a Christian. I don't agree with how fundamentalists treat the bible either. Obviously, the earth is round and moves.
 
SheWolf said:
I am not a Christian. I don't agree with how fundamentalists treat the bible either. Obviously, the earth is round and moves.
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You say "obvious", but it wasn't to the men who wrote the Old Testament.


Clear proof that the Bible is the hand of man, not the world of God.
 
Rich2018 said:
You say "obvious", but it wasn't to the men who wrote the Old Testament.


Clear proof that the Bible is the hand of man, not the world of God.
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Maybe god was having a laugh.
 
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