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Skeptical of skeptics

it's just me said:
I am re-reading the Carl Sagan novel "Contact" (the movie is nothing like the book, so don't bother telling me what was in the movie), which raises some interesting questions about the implications of life in the universe.

There are people on this site who will tell you that there is no "proof that God exists". Fine. But if you press them on why they think there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe they will quote odds, biochemistry, experiments, everything but proof. They might say "We know it can happen because it has happened, here". But that's still not proof that it has happened anywhere else. Our explanation is that we were placed here by an intelligence whose ways are as high above ours as we are above ants, and the skeptics demand proof from us, even though the proof for their beliefs doesn't rise to the level that they expect from us.

We know for certain that intelligent life exists one place in the universe: here. At one point in the novel one of the characters states that he distrusts skeptics because they distrust everybody else. I know how he feels.
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There is no proof of other life in the universe. That was easy
 
Rich2018 said:
You are confused.


We don't know if there is any life elsewhere in the universe - but we accept that it is possible
In fact because of the trillions of stars in the observable universe, we think it is more than possible but we could be wrong, we might be alone.


Atheists also accept the possibility that there was a creator ... but there is no evidence for it.
In fact unlike the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe, logic is against the existence of a creator.



And even if there were a creator (or creators) it would be nothing like the supreme being in the collection of fantasy novels you call The Bible.
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No, I am not confused. There is no proof of life elsewhere, no matter how many stars you want to bring up or how many equations you want to cite. There is no proof, period. Anything is possible, but that's not proof.

Atheists also accept the possibility that there was a creator ... but there is no evidence for it.
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They do? They have been saying for some time that they "lack belief". Which is it?

In fact unlike the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe, logic is against the existence of a creator.
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Really? How did you come to that conclusion?

And even if there were a creator (or creators) it would be nothing like the supreme being in the collection of fantasy novels you call The Bible.
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Another baseless claim. Once again, tell me how you arrived at that conclusion.
 
devildavid said:
Belief has a primary meaning? And you know it? Sounds like faith to me.
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Like I said, the limits of your acquaintance with language is at the bottom of these posts about belief.
 
Angel said:
Like I said, the limits of your acquaintance with language is at the bottom of these posts about belief.
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Yet you think you know it all. But you have not demonstrated anything but confusion with word meanings and context.
 
vegas giants said:
Are you saying there is proof god exists? If there is none….why can't you say that?
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Thinking is not required in order to believe in a god. Blind faith will suffice.
 
zyzygy said:
Thinking is not required in order to believe in a god. Blind faith will suffice.
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Here you are again, in the pointless thread.

I guess thinking is not required for trolling, either. You have to be careful, lest you say something relevant.
 
devildavid said:
Skeptics do not espouse beliefs. The possibility of intelligent life elsewhere is not a belief. The possibility of something that we can never provide evidence for can only be a belief.
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I am skeptical of the claim that 'Skeptics to not espouse beliefs'.
 
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