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What events have shaken your faith?

PoS said:
Cancer and disease is man's doing?
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Because man fell, he became mortal and was then prone to all the ailments that flesh and blood humans suffer. That is a basic tenet of the Judeo-Christian religion.
 
veritas1 said:
Because man fell, he became mortal and was then prone to all the ailments that flesh and blood humans suffer. That is a basic tenet of the Judeo-Christian religion.
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LOL ridiculous. It's god who placed the curse on man for eating his apple tree so he is the evil one.
 
PoS said:
LOL ridiculous. It's god who placed the curse on man for eating his apple tree so he is the evil one.
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Yes...it is absolutely ****ing ridiculous. I am always amazed that any adult would believe any of that bull****.
 
PoS said:
LOL ridiculous. It's god who placed the curse on man for eating his apple tree so he is the evil one.
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God is God and does what He does. If God is evil then there is no such thing as good because an evil God would not have let us know what love or charity or virtue are. Man made his own plight.
 
calamity said:
Yes...it is absolutely ****ing ridiculous. I am always amazed that any adult would believe any of that bull****.
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You speak as if you have definitive knowledge of the whole universe. Since you do not, you have no standing to declare that God does not exist. It is nothing but a statement of your hope that He doesn't.
 
veritas1 said:
You speak as if you have definitive knowledge of the whole universe. Since you do not, you have no standing to declare that God does not exist. It is nothing but a statement of your hope that He doesn't.
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I know a ****ing fairy tale when I see it. Those Bible stories are fairy tales.
 
calamity said:
I know a ****ing fairy tale when I see it. Those Bible stories are fairy tales.
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You know nothing. The idea of God scares the crap out of you and so you seek reassurance from others who feel the same. Like I said, you have no idea whether God exists or not so to claim that you do is nothing but bluster. You have an opinion, that's all.
 
veritas1 said:
God is God and does what He does. If God is evil then there is no such thing as good because an evil God would not have let us know what love or charity or virtue are. Man made his own plight.
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Man is good for some men helps others with charity and kindness. God on the other hand, does nothing but kill.
 
PoS said:
Man is good for some men helps others with charity and kindness. God on the other hand, does nothing but kill.
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Man would have no clue what good and evil are if God hadn't put that ability in him.
 
lol...check out this tidbit I picked up from that Spanish Inquisition link cited above. Pay particular attention to the bold.

Under the category of "unnatural marriage" fell any marriage or attempted marriage between two individuals who could not procreate. The Catholic Church in general, and in particular a nation constantly at war like Spain,[93][94] emphasise in the reproductive goal of marriage. The Spanish Inquisition's policy in this regard was restrictive but applied in a very egalitarian way. It considered unnatural any non-reproductive marriage, and natural any reproductive one, regardless of gender or sex involved. The two forms of obvious male sterility were either due to damage to the genitals through castration or accidental wounding at war (capón) or to some genetic condition that might keep the man from completing puberty (lampiño). Female sterility was also a reason to declare a marriage unnatural but was harder to prove. One of the most interesting cases to study the attitude of the Spanish Inquisition regarding marriage and gender is the trial of Eleno de Céspedes.
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The Church's goal behind its demand for producing babies is to provide cannon fodder. :lamo
 
calamity said:
Yes...it is absolutely ****ing ridiculous. I am always amazed that any adult would believe any of that bull****.
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You have to remember a whole lot of them believe trump is innocent of all crimes, and is the counties number one Christian and make TV evangelists millionaires.

P.S. try to find anything by comedian Ron shock but particularly the 900 foot tall upside down floating Jesus.
 
veritas1 said:
Man would have no clue what good and evil are if God hadn't put that ability in him.
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Yup, god showed man what evil is by his own actions. The lesson here is to be less like god.
 
PoS said:
Yup, god showed man what evil is by his own actions. The lesson here is to be less like god.
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No, the lesson here is to seek forgiveness and save yourself. We only have ourselves to blame if we fail because God has provided the way.
 
GDViking said:
You have to remember a whole lot of them believe trump is innocent of all crimes, and is the counties number one Christian and make TV evangelists millionaires.

P.S. try to find anything by comedian Ron shock but particularly the 900 foot tall upside down floating Jesus.
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Trump has nothing to do with any of it but you guys just can't help yourselves.
 
veritas1 said:
No, the lesson here is to seek forgiveness and save yourself. We only have ourselves to blame if we fail because God has provided the way.
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Ridiculous- if god punishes succeeding generations simply because of a mistake then he is petty and cruel. He is purely an evil god that should not be worshiped.
 
PoS said:
Yup, god showed man what evil is by his own actions. The lesson here is to be less like god.
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So morality is objective truth? Good to know... ;)
 
veritas1 said:
You know nothing. The idea of God scares the crap out of you and so you seek reassurance from others who feel the same. Like I said, you have no idea whether God exists or not so to claim that you do is nothing but bluster. You have an opinion, that's all.
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I know your god doesn't exist, 100% for sure. No doubt, with absolute certainty.
 
veritas1 said:
Naturally, that has zero to do with anything I said. BTW, the Bolsheviks pretty much believed as you do and they murdered 60 million. Maybe I should post a link to them.
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Well, that's what happens when religious fanatics find a new shiny object to worship. You can take the religion out of a zealot, but you'll never strip the zeal out of the overly religious.


Note: You are aware that Stalin was a failed wannabee priest. Right?

Of course not.
 
veritas1 said:
Trump has nothing to do with any of it but you guys just can't help yourselves.
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Sure he does, it just prove people that believe in an all knowing, all powerful , Omnipotent being are easy marks for con artist.

Kinda like when oral roberts announced that a 900 foot tall Jesus told him he had to raise a million dollars or Jesus would call him home.

The rubes fell for that con, just as they did trumps.

Easy marks...
 
calamity said:
Well, that's what happens when religious fanatics find a new shiny object to worship. You can take the religion out of a zealot, but you'll never strip the zeal out of the overly religious.


Note: You are aware that Stalin was a failed wannabee priest. Right?

Of course not.
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Yes, I knew that and it has nothing whatever to do with the point at issue unless you are going to claim, laughably, that any Bolshevik policy was religiously driven.
 
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