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Question(s) To Christians Who'd Become Non-Religious[W:322]

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ataraxia said:
Go through a ritual act I knew was going to be of no real consequence? Sure.
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Good for you...I would think the pain and anguish would not be diminished because of that...at any rate it would be difficult to do, as well as to witness with someone I loved...
 
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Logicman said:
I'm glad you're going to get a whole new Revelation about that someday.
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I don't believe this should be our response to unbelievers. We need to explain why we believe what we believe and hope that is enough for them to see the light. Threatening them with judgment serves no purpose even if we know the truth of it. Neither should we take comfort in their blindness. Remember 1 Peter 3:15.
 
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tosca1 said:
Cite your source for that.
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It's lost, along with proof of the virgin birth and the resurrection. Maybe pump the dog's stomach?




Theistic Evolutionists refer to Genesis 1, and show that it matches with their Day-Age Interpretation.


Does Genesis One Conflict with Science? Day-Age Interpretation


About the author Rich Deem:


About Rich Deem - Rich Deem's Blog



Another Theistic Evolutionist is Francis Collins, who founded BioLogos.
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I'm familiar with them. The idea is that sometime after this billion years creation (they're flexible on how many years are in a day?) the days magically changed to 24 hours and the years to 365 days.

Got that.

I'd love to see a debate between them and these guys:
https://answersingenesis.org/

You're the one who seems to have a hard time wrapping your head around those threads. You should review them.
Here's The Bible:

https://www.debatepolitics.com/philosophical-discussions/287320-bible.html
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No thanks. What's the name of the logical fallacy where someone throws miscellaneous stuff out hoping some of it supports the claim they already decided was true? And changes the terms on the fly???
 
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veritas1 said:
I don't believe this should be our response to unbelievers. We need to explain why we believe what we believe and hope that is enough for them to see the light. Threatening them with judgment serves no purpose even if we know the truth of it. Neither should we take comfort in their blindness. Remember 1 Peter 3:15.
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It wasn't a threat of judgment, just a revelation about the Book of Revelation.

But nice doesn't work there. With others yes, it will, but not there. If you don't believe me try it for about 3 years and find out for yourself.
 
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Logician Man said:
" You may say I'm a dreamer,but I'm not the only one.I hope someday you will join us,and the world will live as one." ( John Lennon)
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According to the Bible, the world will someday live as one, yes. But not until Christ returns and sends the heathens to their just reward.
 
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Logicman said:
According to the Bible, the world will someday live as one, yes. But not until Christ returns and sends the heathens to their just reward.
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So I've read.
 
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Elvira said:
Sure he did...his guarantee was that he knew God did not lie...

"Then God said to Abraham: “Do not be displeased by what Sarah is saying to you about the boy and about your slave girl. Listen to her, for what will be called your offspring will be through Isaac." Gen. 21:12
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He didn't know that god would stop him from going through with it.
 
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<alt>doxygen said:
It's lost, along with proof of the virgin birth and the resurrection. Maybe pump the dog's stomach?






I'm familiar with them. The idea is that sometime after this billion years creation (they're flexible on how many years are in a day?) the days magically changed to 24 hours and the years to 365 days.

Got that.

I'd love to see a debate between them and these guys:
https://answersingenesis.org/



No thanks. What's the name of the logical fallacy where someone throws miscellaneous stuff out hoping some of it supports the claim they already decided was true? And changes the terms on the fly???
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" No true Scotman's man Fallacy" and " God of the Gaps Fallacy" are used by theists a lot in debating,but I don't think either of the two are the one your referring to.
 
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devildavid said:
He didn't know that god would stop him from going through with it.
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No, but as I pointed out earlier with scripture in Hebrews, he had complete faith in Jehovah resurrecting him...
 
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Elvira said:
No, but as I pointed out earlier with scripture in Hebrews, he had complete faith in Jehovah resurrecting him...
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You don't know what he thought and this was a test of his faith. And he would still have to literally kill his son to find out. Why would god stop him?
 
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devildavid said:
You don't know what he thought and this was a test of his faith. And he would still have to literally kill his son to find out. Why would god stop him?
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Oh but I do because I believe what the Bible says...if you had bothered to keep up with this thread, you would know your question has already been answered...or maybe not, considering who i am talking to...:roll:
 
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Elvira said:
Good for you...I would think the pain and anguish would not be diminished because of that...at any rate it would be difficult to do, as well as to witness with someone I loved...
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Yes it would, wouldn’t it? And you would do it anyway, wouldn’t you? But that’s what happens when God’s commands clash with your personal conscience. Once you decide your personal conscience should take a back seat, anything is possible. No wonder they say:

” Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
- Voltaire
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ataraxia said:
Yes it would, wouldn’t it? And you would do it anyway, wouldn’t you? But that’s what happens when God’s commands clash with your personal conscience. Once you decide your personal conscience should take a back seat, anything is possible. No wonder they say:
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You've just contradicted yourself....would you do it because you know there are no long term consequences, nothing God cannot undo, or not? Make up your mind..
 
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devildavid said:
You don't know what he thought and this was a test of his faith. And he would still have to literally kill his son to find out. Why would god stop him?
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In one Jewish interpretation Abraham was testing God as much as God was testing Abraham.
 
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tosca1 said:
That many cultures have similar flood srtories should all the more support the possibility that a massive flood did happen!





Theistic Evolution (God-created universe) interpret Genesis 1 in the Day-Age theory.

Genesis 1 says:

The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.


In the Day-Age interpretation, Christian scientists say that the universe was already created. There, read the verse again!
It does reads that way, doesn't it?







Cite the books where they're supposed to have been plagiarized.
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im sure massive floods did happen especially around tribes and early civilization living near large water supplies but one covering the planet no that's not supported


ok the universe might come 1st in genesis but the formation of the earth did not happen before quite a few stars formed and died

i dont care if its original or not we have no evidence of magical immortals

and language and cultures diverged as groups of people spread out

god did not smite the british empire into fragments and we have been in communication since separating and even us american don't sound british or australian
 
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blarg said:
looks like wanting to believe because the story makes you feel better
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So tell me...what is the link about?
 
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Elvira said:
So tell me...what is the link about?
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non religious person from communist germany after losing their communist ideals and trying immediate gratification as a replacement which did not work out finding god in your religion and being happier
 
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zyzygy said:
He's a guy who was indoctrinated into the cult
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yes but i dont get how i said elvira was lying about that being a logical reason to believe in god

i think she is gravely mistaken is all
 
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blarg said:
yes but i dont get how i said elvira was lying about that being a logical reason to believe in god

i think she is gravely mistaken is all
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There are no logical reasons for believing in a god.
 
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