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Something peculiar I've noticed when discussing religious beliefs with people. [W:263]

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Angel said:
Why tell me this? I'm replying to numerous posts that you seem to tolerate.
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First I stated it several times and I'm not going to go and respond to every single post that's blathering about evidence.

You are seeking to derail the thread. Because you want to Crow about evidence.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Well it's very specific in that I'm curious as to why people think someone else having different beliefs equates to them questioning the beliefs of others or saying that the beliefs of others are wrong.
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Well, it does desn't it?

I never understand why the rest of you don't have exactly the same views as me on all things. I put it down to your lack of intelligence, all of you, all humanity. Just sayin'.;)
 
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You have to consider that this type of reaction is taking place on a debate forum.

When someone expresses a belief in person I would think the reaction woukd be quite different.
 
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devildavid said:
You have to consider that this type of reaction is taking place on a debate forum.

When someone expresses a belief in person I would think the reaction woukd be quite different.
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Oh I've run into it in person. The only explanation I can come up with is that people think that others having different beliefs challenges their beliefs
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Oh I've run into it in person. The only explanation I can come up with is that people think that others having different beliefs challenges their beliefs
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It is not just religious beliefs that fall under this. It could be something as seemingly innocuous as what TV shows you like. People sometimes take personally anything that is contrary to any things they consider an important part of their identity.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
no not when they're challenge but when someone else has different beliefs
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Can you give me an example of when that happens?

I see people with various beliefs and cultures interacting all the time, and religion never seems to become a topic, much less a heated topic.

I'm curious as to what kind of scenario you have in mind if it's not something like a debate here, or perhaps protests outside of Planned Parenthood.
 
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Elvira said:
You have the choice to stay out of those forums or not...sorry your self control is so weak if you don't like it...maybe that is something you should work on...
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Maybe you should work on that famous Christian compassion you claim to have. Haven't seen any evidence of it on these threads.
 
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ataraxia said:
It’s about having one’s beliefs questioned. People don’t take kindly to it.
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And yet you and those like you continually question the beliefs of others. Curious how your beliefs only apply to those who agree with you.
 
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Arjay81 said:
Maybe you should work on that famous Christian compassion you claim to have. Haven't seen any evidence of it on these threads.
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I have compassion, just not much use for whiners and complainers when their own actions have led them there...
 
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CLAX1911 said:
First I stated it several times and I'm not going to go and respond to every single post that's blathering about evidence.

You are seeking to derail the thread. Because you want to Crow about evidence.
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I'll say this again slowly. The topic of evidence was introduced by others before my post commenting on the topic of evidence. Bother them about derailing your thread. I just entered a strand of conversation already well in progress.


Namaste
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Earlier I was talking in a thread with regard to religious beliefs. And something that I don't really understand occurred. And the more I have thought about it the more I realize that I habe been guilty of this same thing.

So I think beliefs are personal, and many of us don't like being told our beliefs are wrong. When people talk about beliefs in gods or afterlife and such that have no real evidence they tend to get really belligerent and defensive. Especially when they adhere to a religious ideological bent.

My question here and the subject I want to discuss on this threats is why people do this.

Al
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I am an atheist, but admire folks for having faith with no tangible evidence. Live and let live.
 
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devildavid said:
It is not just religious beliefs that fall under this. It could be something as seemingly innocuous as what TV shows you like. People sometimes take personally anything that is contrary to any things they consider an important part of their identity.
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Indeed
 
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Dragonfly said:
Can you give me an example of when that happens?
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So one case, two Catholics were having a conversation about Mary, these people are friends. One says the Immaculate conception was of Mary so that Jesus Christ could have a "clean vessel." And the other says immaculate conception is of Jesus because he wad immaculately conceived three vessel is clean.

Now Nither one of these is provable so each belief is acceptable but these two people became angry to the point of yelling at one another.

I see people with various beliefs and cultures interacting all the time, and religion never seems to become a topic, much less a heated topic.
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Religious beliefs often become heated topics from my experiance.

I'm curious as to what kind of scenario you have in mind if it's not something like a debate here, or perhaps protests outside of Planned Parenthood.
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No, not particularly protesters.
 
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Angel said:
I'll say this again slowly. The topic of evidence was introduced by others before my post commenting on the topic of evidence. Bother them about derailing your thread. I just entered a strand of conversation already well in progress.
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So you think I'm picking on you?
 
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CLAX1911 said:
So you think I'm picking on you?
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Of course not! You just didn't know about the earlier posts by others.

Namaste
 
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Angel said:
Of course not! You just didn't know about the earlier posts by others.

Namaste
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Well they aren't continually crying to me about it and you are.

Either way I'm done addressing you whining. Rest assured if somebody else distracts with off topic subjects ill address them.
 
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nota bene said:
It's not just over religious beliefs that people struggle to admit when they're wrong; this is a human failing. But I'm troubled by your phrase "real evidence" because so often in these threads the point is made that only empirical proof matters. I don't become belligerent or defensive, but neither am I willing to engage in a discussion in which my beliefs are going to be dismissed or mocked because I can't empirically prove what I have experienced for myself.
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Exactly this... And to summarize the viewpoint that I hold (and seemingly held by yourself as well), God is believed in a "properly basic" way, based on experience. (otherwise known as a properly basic belief). God is believed in the same way as "minds other than my own exist", "the external world is real", "the universe wasn't created five minutes ago", and etc. are believed.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
Well they aren't continually crying to me about it and you are.

Either way I'm done addressing you whining. Rest assured if somebody else distracts with off topic subjects ill address them.
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Er, you didn't get all up in their faces about it. That could be the reason they're not crying to you.
And I don't think I've been crying. Unless you've been shouting.
 
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gfm7175 said:
Exactly this... And to summarize the viewpoint that I hold (and seemingly held by yourself as well), God is believed in a "properly basic" way, based on experience. (otherwise known as a properly basic belief). God is believed in the same way as "minds other than my own exist", "the external world is real", "the universe wasn't created five minutes ago", and etc. are believed.
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The threat isn't about evidence or experience or even believe in God.
 
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Dragonfly said:
Can you give me an example of when that happens?

I see people with various beliefs and cultures interacting all the time, and religion never seems to become a topic, much less a heated topic.

I'm curious as to what kind of scenario you have in mind if it's not something like a debate here, or perhaps protests outside of Planned Parenthood.
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I protested outside a PP clinic for 15 years. And never said a single word. Mentioning this only because of misperceptions. There was never any shouting or drama, only people standing and silently praying.
 
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We need conformity to our beliefs now, tolerance is something that we largely cant manage anymore.

WE USED TO BE BETTER
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
We need conformity to our beliefs now, tolerance is something that we largely cant manage anymore.

WE USED TO BE BETTER
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Back to the tolerant days of racial segregation in your country?
 
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Elvira said:
I have compassion, just not much use for whiners and complainers when their own actions have led them there...
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Then by your own statement you have no compassion or religious conviction. All you have is spitefulness and hate for others that do not think as you wish them to.

Apparently your version of a religious attitude. Your own actions betray you.
 
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zyzygy said:
Back to the tolerant days of racial segregation in your country?
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Or we could go back to the good old days of Belgian Colonial Empire in the Congo.
 
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Arjay81 said:
Then by your own statement you have no compassion or religious conviction. All you have is spitefulness and hate for others that do not think as you wish them to.

Apparently your version of a religious attitude. Your own actions betray you.
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lol...
 
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