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Differences Between Non-Believers & Believers

Rich2018 said:
What makes you so special ?

Why does god give you an epiphany but deny it to me ?


Why is god so discriminatory ?


Why does god favor some people over others...


Why should anyone start to believe and worship a god that thinks you are so much better and/or deserving than they are ?




Is it because god doesn't want me to know he exists?
Or that god doesn't care if I know whether he exists?


Either way it makes no sense as the church tells me I should believe in god...but god demands I believe in him without evidence, whilst providing evidence to you.
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All great questions,most of which I asked God ,why chose a sinner like me!
 
Mizzy22 said:
An Epiphany is a Spiritual event.
What you had was a deduction of facts in your brain came up with that pov.
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No, the word epiphany is not strictly used as a spiritual event. Your event also took place in your brain.
 
zyzygy said:
Spirit is a matter of belief. There is no proof of it's existence.
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No, spirit is a matter of experience. The proof is in the experience. You speak whereof you know not. Remember Wittgenstein, Reader?
 
devildavid said:
No, the word epiphany is not strictly used as a spiritual event. Your event also took place in your brain.
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Incorrect. Strictly speaking an epiphany is a spiritual event; loosely speaking, otherwise.
 
Angel said:
Incorrect. Strictly speaking an epiphany is a spiritual event; loosely speaking, otherwise.
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Epiphany does not have one meaning strictly or loosely. Like all words, its meaning is depended on context. Just as the phrase "a come to jesus moment" is not used strictly to convey a spiritual event.
 
it's just me said:
The most obvious difference is that believers believe and non-believers obsess about what believers believe.
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Non-believers don't obsess about what believers believe, silly as most of those beliefs are, they obsess about believers trying to use the power of the state to impose their parochial bs on the rest of us.
 
Dragonfly said:
In your opinion, what are some of the actual differences between those who believe in a god or gods, and those who don't?

My position is this, if life is like an onion, the differences amount to little more than one of the thinner inner layers to the next thin inner layer.
There are very few differences in how each live their life. So small that overall an outsider wouldn't notice the difference at all.

Both do almost exactly the same things throughout life. There's just that one subtle difference.
From a 10,000 foot view you couldn't pick one out from the other.

Or, do you see the differences as being far more radical than that? Not just thin layers of an onion, but more like comparing a banana to a piece of iron?
If so, could you please explain why you think the gap between the two is so wide?

Now the premise here isn't about picking extreme examples from either scenario.
Don't pick a Westboro Baptist, a Sharia Terrorist, or a some specific personality of fame.
I'm talking about your average everyday guy/gal. People who could be your neighbors, co-workers, family members, friends, or community members.

Do you believe the differences between those who believe and those who don't are very small, or very large?
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very small
Ive never found differences between believers and non believes that stem just on that alone. The differences i see are always individuals not between believers and non.
 
it's just me said:
The most obvious difference is that believers believe and non-believers obsess about what believers believe.
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LMAO sweet irony

Nope, factually not true. i know non believers that dont care one bit and i know believers (like your views just prove) that are always claiming to know what non believers believe and they have no clue. oooops.
 
Angel said:
Your tap dance with the word "connect" is not clever despite what you think.
Ah, so you were just setting me up for your your usual physicalist chant?
Whatever floats your boat, mam
But no, physical existence is the illusion nonbelievers must cling to.


Namaste
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If I was to punch you in the face don't worry it is only in the real world that happened. You can just not really be here.
 
kitsune said:
Non-believers don't obsess about what believers believe, silly as most of those beliefs are, they obsess about believers trying to use the power of the state to impose their parochial bs on the rest of us.
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Doesn't it suck having to share the planet with people who are not like you?
 
straykatz said:
Actually...I think it is the opposite and it is the believers who obsess over non-believers or others don't believe what they believe. It's like they need confirmation or validation that their belief is or should be the only belief.
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Sounds like projection to me, but I will say that non-believers are fond of pontificating about what it is we believe and don't believe and take exception to it when you try to set them straight.
 
it's just me said:
Sounds like projection to me, but I will say that non-believers are fond of pontificating about what it is we believe and don't believe and take exception to it when you try to set them straight.
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When you take exception and feel you have to set them straight then you proved my point.
 
Mizzy22 said:
Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth!:roll:
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Well I certainly don't want to be doing that. But I'm just not seeing how I am. Could you help me out here?
 
Mizzy22 said:
I only want to believe in reality.
For me a personal Epiphany of the Holy Spirit makes it crystal clear
Jesus is Lord
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If you were raised in a culture where a different religion was completely dominant, do you think your epiphany would have involved Jesus?
 
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