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The Fallacy of Materialism

Angel said:
"The intent"? Are your synapses reading my synapses?

Yes, physicalism is a ridiculous reductive view, and no one here at DP can blame you for your repugnance toward it.


Namaste
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So you admit my read was correct. Why do you complain? You use these terms in a denigrating way, not as a way to provoke genuine dialogue. You are intellectually dishonest and have no intention of really examining the actual strengths and weaknesses of ideas.

I have no repugnance toward a view I know nothing about. I have not studied the philosophical doctrines of physicalism or materialism so I can't possibly hold them to be true nor have anything to say about them. My views are my own, and not derived from formal philosophy.

Have you chosen a hindu god?
 
devildavid said:
Well, have you? I had already watched the video. Have you chosen your hindu god from the menu?
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If you indeed watched the video, which I doubt very seriously, then you are acquainted with the concept of "istha deva" and have therein the answer to your question.
 
Angel said:
If you indeed watched the video, which I doubt very seriously, then you are acquainted with the concept of "istha deva" and have therein the answer to your question.
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That doesn't negate my question to you. If hinduism is valid you need to choose a hindu god or else you are not capable of understanding hinduism. Religion cannot be truly understood from the outside, in a dry academic way.
 
devildavid said:
Angel said:
devildavid said:
Angel said:
Edify yourself here:
https://www.debatepolitics.com/beliefs-and-skepticism/322293-understanding-religion.html
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Well, have you? I had already watched the video. Have you chosen your hindu god from the menu?
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If you indeed watched the video, which I doubt very seriously, then you are acquainted with the concept of "istha deva" and have therein the answer to your question.
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That doesn't negate my question to you. If hinduism is valid you need to choose a hindu god or else you are not capable of understanding hinduism. Religion cannot be truly understood from the outside, in a dry academic way.
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Liar Liar Pants on Fire! As suspected, you haven't watched the video. If you don't know what "istha deva" means, if you don't understand how it answers your question, then despite what you claim, you haven't watched the 100minute video and you post in bad faith. Adieu.
 
Angel said:
Liar Liar Pants on Fire! As suspected, you haven't watched the video. If you don't know what "istha deva" means, if you don't understand how it answers your question, then despite what you claim, you haven't watched the 100minute video and you post in bad faith. Adieu.
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I watched the video. You haven't picked a hindu god. Why not?
 
devildavid said:
I watched the video. You haven't picked a hindu god. Why not?
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No, you didn't watch the video; you googled "ishta deva" -- that's why you don't understand the concept as presented in the video and persist in your uninformed question.
Bad faith is a second nature with you.


Namaste
 
Angel said:
No, you didn't watch the video; you googled "ishta deva" -- that's why you don't understand the concept as presented in the video and persist in your uninformed question.
Bad faith is a second nature with you.


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I watched the video. That I had to look something up was to make sure I was clear on it. You can't expect me to watch a video once and remember every detail of it. The concept remains the same no matter the source. That video is not the last word or only word on the concept. One video is not a complete and accurate source on any religion. The bad faith is all yours. You don't set up the rules about how we can come to a true understanding of any religion.
 
devildavid said:
I watched the video. That I had to look something up was to make sure I was clear on it. You can't expect me to watch a video once and remember every detail of it. The concept remains the same no matter the source. That video is not the last word or only word on the concept. One video is not a complete and accurate source on any religion. The bad faith is all yours. You don't set up the rules about how we can come to a true understanding of any religion.
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Let's face it, David. You have little or no understanding of religion. And you want to keep it that way. Why are you wasting my time? Why are you wasting your time?


Namaste
 
Angel said:
Let's face it, David. You have little or no understanding of religion. And you want to keep it that way. Why are you wasting my time? Why are you wasting your time?


Namaste
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You think you can teach us all about religion with a collection of videos. You don't know as much about religion as you think you know because you are unable to study it from a skeptical point of view.
 
devildavid said:
You think you can teach us all about religion with a collection of videos. You don't know as much about religion as you think you know because you are unable to study it from a skeptical point of view.
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You're not a skeptic, devildavid -- nor are your pals here at DP -- though you enjoy thinking you are. You're a denier and a dismisser and a dogmatist. The Three D's/ You and all your pals here at DP.


Namaste
 
Angel said:
You're not a skeptic, devildavid -- nor are your pals here at DP -- though you enjoy thinking you are. You're a denier and a dismisser and a dogmatist. The Three D's/ You and all your pals here at DP.


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Sorry, but you don't get to label me. I am a skeptic. In order to be a denier there must me something immune to skeptical inquiry to deny.

But your dogmatism is noted. You think disagreement with you is always wrong; that is your dogma.
 
devildavid said:
Sorry, but you don't get to label me. I am a skeptic. In order to be a denier there must me something immune to skeptical inquiry to deny.

But your dogmatism is noted. You think disagreement with you is always wrong; that is your dogma.
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A skeptic has doubts, questions, not a closed mind.


Namaste

 
Angel said:
A skeptic has doubts, questions, not a closed mind.


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And you can't tell the difference. Being constantly skeptical about things for which there is no evidence and which people seem to be able to make any claims about is the foundation of skepticism.
 
devildavid said:
And you can't tell the difference. Being constantly skeptical about things for which there is no evidence and which people seem to be able to make any claims about is the foundation of skepticism.
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Remember Ibsen, English Major? He told us that every man needs a life-lie. Look to it.


Namaste
 
Angel said:
Remember Ibsen, English Major? He told us that every man needs a life-lie. Look to it.


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Good for Ibsen. Your name dropping is telling. Ibsen is not an authority on anything. Being an English major helps me to see through all the nonsense. Every writer is a human being and as such is nothing special. They present their ideas for us to consider, not to be taken as articles of faith.
 
devildavid said:
Good for Ibsen. Your name dropping is telling. Ibsen is not an authority on anything. Being an English major helps me to see through all the nonsense. Every writer is a human being and as such is nothing special. They present their ideas for us to consider, not to be taken as articles of faith.
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There is a difference between an English Major and an English Corporal. Delusions of grandeur to the contrary notwithstanding.


Namaste

 
Angel said:
There is a difference between an English Major and an English Corporal. Delusions of grandeur to the contrary notwithstanding.


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English "Corporal" Haw haw haw.

Whose delusions of grandeur are you referring to, Ibsen's?

Did you have a coherent point here, or was it much ado about nothing? See, I'm so smart. I quote the Bard.
 
devildavid said:
English "Corporal" Haw haw haw.

Whose delusions of grandeur are you referring to, Ibsen's?

Did you have a coherent point here, or was it much ado about nothing? See, I'm so smart. I quote the Bard.
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Two coherent points, made up in #85, #87, #89, to wit:
1. Your posts demonstrate little or no understanding of religion.
2. Your posts give the lie to the claim that you are a skeptic.


Namaste
 
Angel said:
Two coherent points, made up in #85, #87, #89, to wit:
1. Your posts demonstrate little or no understanding of religion.
2. Your posts give the lie to the claim that you are a skeptic.


Namaste
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Your posts demonstrate unjustified arrogance and pretense at possessing an ability to understand something which your confirmation bias prevents you from examining skeptically.
 
devildavid said:
Your posts demonstrate unjustified arrogance and pretense at possessing an ability to understand something which your confirmation bias prevents you from examining skeptically.
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Go, David, go!
 
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"Materialism represents an astonishing failure of the human intellect to see what’s right under its nose."

"Materialism is by no stretch of the imagination a scientific conclusion, but merely a metaphysical opinion that helps some people interpret scientific conclusions."

― Bernardo Kastrup, Brief Peeks Beyond: Critical Essays on Metaphysics, Neuroscience, Free Will, Skepticism and Culture

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/4552692.Bernardo_Kastrup


Namaste
 
devildavid said:
English "Corporal" Haw haw haw.

Whose delusions of grandeur are you referring to, Ibsen's?

Did you have a coherent point here, or was it much ado about nothing? See, I'm so smart. I quote the Bard.
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Ignore the attention seeker and he will go away.
 
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