Re: Atheistic Materialism - Does Richard Dawkins Exist?
Atheistic Materialism - Does Richard Dawkins Exist?
Aetheistic Materialism or Theistic Hylomorphism?
That is the question posed here in this marvelous talk by Prof. Bonnette, whose lucid presentation of both sides of the question permits atheistic materialism to self-destruct.
What do you think of Bonnette's presentation?
What, after listening to Prof. Bonnette, is your understanding of theistic hylomorphism?
Why does atheistic materialism ultimately fail?
Does Richard Dawkins exist?
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Truthfully, this is the first I've ever even heard of thominism.
But, having perused what you've presented. I can only conclude that science is caught in the middle of two idiots arguing.
Atheists and Thominists are both trying to say Science says this or this. When Science says neither. Science is merely observation. When we figure out a way to observe metaphysical phenomena, we will observe it. Until then, every scientist worthy of the title, will avoid contaminating their observations with speculations on why. The why comes after the observation.
And there is not enough information for theists or atheists of any color our spectrum to hazard a guess on what is correct.
The only difference I ever see, is that Theists have a vested interest in being correct and are not above dishonesty to make themselves seem correct.
And atheists have an interest in theists being incorrect, that interest being that every time a theist comes into any sort of power, they abuse the **** out of it and lots and lots of people either die, or are subjugated. And they feel stamping out theist notions will close one avenue of human suffering that may arise again.
Not knowing which one is right, I side with the Atheists. Theists have a terrible track record. And should be generally ignored when speaking in public.
Although, I am of the opinion that some outside force caused the creation of the Universe, that's not really my concern. My concern is with how humanity moves forward. And a being capable of creating an infinite universe, consisting of all infinite possibilities, doesn't give two ****s if I'm the possibility that thinks the way I do. Probably doesn't care about any of the other infinite versions of myself either.
Probably isn't even aware that the Earth exists. Probably is out there creating other infinite universes. Doing it's thing.
Who knows? Who cares? Whatever it does is beyond our influence, worrying about whether it doesn't want us to masturbate or have gay sex is just illogical. Because it created an infinite number of possibilities. Stands to reason, if it wanted to avoid something it wouldn't ensure its existence by creating infinite possibilities. In some realities, I'm gay. Others, I'm a serial Killer.
Which version of me is judged? Which punished? How is it fair to create a punishment for something that is required to happen in the system that is created?
It's not, and it makes no sense, and is in my opinion nonsense made to scare people into believing a certain way.
