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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by zyzygy View Post
    Many Christian martyrs committed suicide by refusing to recant.
    That's not suicide. That would be like saying that holocaust vicitims committed suicide or victims of the Armenian genocide. Being killed for your faith is not suicide.

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    Nope. They committed suicide which is a very different matter.
    So? People die for mistaken beliefs all the time.
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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by zyzygy View Post
    Dead people rising from the grave and walking around and only one person noticed it?
    Many could have noticed. They could have noted it in diaries or letters or what have you but those records no longer exist. Few ancient documents exist. Also, only the people to whom the "holy people" were known would have recognized them. We simply do not know who these people were.

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    So? People die for mistaken beliefs all the time.
    Do you not understand the difference between killing yourself and having someone else kill you?

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    Is anybody going to their death for Elvis? Threaten them with it and see what they say then.
    Your logic is faulty. Dying for a belief is not evidence of the veracity of the belief. It is only evidence of what extremes some people will go to for a belief.

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    I don't even know what this means. You can accept that Jesus existed without accepting the miracles. The evidence for Him is overwhelming and no serious scholar denies that Jesus was a real person.
    The evidence for the Jesus portrayed in the bible is not overwhelming.

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by veritas1 View Post
    Of course they knew it happened. They saw the risen Christ. If Christ was not risen then they were lying. Then, they went about spreading the lie and even went to their deaths for it. You can make whatever rationalizations you like but they don't hold water. These were people just like any others. They didn't seek death. They either described what actually happened or they made it up and then died for what they made up. If you think they died for what they made up, then it would be up to you to show why that makes any sense. They would either have to all be deluded or all seeking suicide. Neither makes any sense.
    They did not see the risen christ. Someone created a fictional story in which this happened. The authors of the bible were not witnesses to the risen christ.

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