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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    Logic and reason. And looking around, I didn't notice any gods.
    I said to telll me why you know beyond all certainty. You only told me what you surmise to be true.

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    No, it means that royalty like God might be quoted using the royal we in this fictional tale.
    I see. So, if the tale is fictional, why would the people who wrote it use "us" and "our". That hardly seems likely when referring to the one true and everlasting God, does it? Especially over a thousand years before Christ and the NT. No, you're going to have to do much better.

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    I'm with you on all of that for the most part, but it doesn't convince me out of my trinitarian views. The end of John chapter 8 has Jesus making the claim that that he is "I AM". Revelation chapter 21 has Jesus claiming that he is the "Alpha and Omega". John 10:30 has Jesus claiming that "I and my Father are one."

    Just like God the Father claimed in the book of Exodus that he is "I AM", Jesus claimed in the book of John that he is also "I AM".

    That leads me to believe that God the Father and Jesus are two separate "persons", but are the same exact "mind", thus one God.
    That's what I believe, too...they are in complete union with one another...John 10:25,30,37,38;17:20-23

    I do not believe the holy spirit is a person, though...it is God's active force...Gen. 1:2; 2 Sam. 23:2; John 14:26; 15:26; 1 Cor. 2:10; 2 Pet. 1:21

    The Bible tells of being baptized, which actually means being dipped in or immersed in water, with fire and with the holy spirit...how could the 120 persons at Pentecost be baptized with a person...Acts 1:5; 2:1-4


    The world cannot obtain that Spirit, because it does not see it or recognize it; you recognize it because it stays with you and is within you”...John 14:16, 17; Acts 2:33

    Neither Stephen nor John saw any “Holy Ghost” in their visions of heaven...Acts 7:55; Rev. 5:1-6
    "In fact, to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies upon their hearts. But when one turns to Jehovah, the veil is taken away. Now Jehovah is the Spirit, and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom." 2 Cor. 3:15-17

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Gotta love it when people try to assert truth (facts) and lies while ONLY using a source that's completely unproven and highly subjective.
    Um TTP also used the Bible as his source so it's only proper we use the Bible as the same source to show him he's wrong...gotta love it when some people don't use their noggin...
    Last edited by Elvira; 06-13-18 at 02:53 PM.
    "In fact, to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies upon their hearts. But when one turns to Jehovah, the veil is taken away. Now Jehovah is the Spirit, and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom." 2 Cor. 3:15-17

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You're assuming god is real, without knowing god is real.

    See how that works.
    I see how that works, but I know God to be real because I have immediately experienced and known God as a part of my life (which is a "properly basic belief" just like the "reality of the past", the "existence of the external world", and the "presence of other minds such as my own" are all properly basic beliefs that can't be proven, but yet we accept them as true).

    Other things which are much more probable than not, such as the apparent intricate design of our universe, very strongly suggest that there is a transcendent "intelligent mind" overseeing everything.

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    The character of Jesus does not exist in any old testament fictional writings. A new testament writing is not evidence of what characters actually appear in the Old testament.
    Yes he does, and yes it is. The NT is part of the Bible just like the OT is, and they both are quite connected to each other.

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    Your first quote would be a dual God.

    Your second quote means that God is very holy, so we repeat the word for emphasis. But keep trying.
    False on both accounts. I would highly suggest gaining knowledge of biblical matters before arguing against them.

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Yes he does, and yes it is. The NT is part of the Bible just like the OT is, and they both are quite connected to each other.
    He is proven wrong time and time again but he still posts his "drivel"...lol...
    "In fact, to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies upon their hearts. But when one turns to Jehovah, the veil is taken away. Now Jehovah is the Spirit, and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom." 2 Cor. 3:15-17

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    Re: Leah Remini to tackle Jehovah's Witnesses

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    That's what I believe, too...they are in complete union with one another...John 10:25,30,37,38;17:20-23

    I do not believe the holy spirit is a person, though...it is God's active force...Gen. 1:2; 2 Sam. 23:2; John 14:26; 15:26; 1 Cor. 2:10; 2 Pet. 1:21

    The Bible tells of being baptized, which actually means being dipped in or immersed in water, with fire and with the holy spirit...how could the 120 persons at Pentecost be baptized with a person...Acts 1:5; 2:1-4


    The world cannot obtain that Spirit, because it does not see it or recognize it; you recognize it because it stays with you and is within you”...John 14:16, 17; Acts 2:33

    Neither Stephen nor John saw any “Holy Ghost” in their visions of heaven...Acts 7:55; Rev. 5:1-6
    Gotcha!

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