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Is atheism just worship of the devil under different name?

Again, factually incorrect, in the past there was a forum in which you could not post religion critical posts in religious part of the forum and now there is a theology section of this forum section in which:




So if you want non interference from atheists you post it there, if you post threads in the normal section named belief and skepticism you have no right to complain when non-believers voice their opinion.

Don't you mean "their beliefs"? lol...because anyone so vocal is definitely defending a belief...
 
Delighted to have handed you a laugh, Peter King. New Atheism, alas, is a laughing matter. ;)

No, atheism is a serious matter, that religious people denounce it and not take it seriously or make light of it is the real problem. Mostly that is caused by religious arrogance and feeling of superiority combined with a blinding inability to want to acknowledge other people's rights to be non-religious.
 
If you had actually done any in depth research you would know just how wrong you are for trying to throw your hatred at some you obviously know nothing about. Atheism is not about :hatred of God" it is about denying the existence of such an entity, nothing more. And if this "god" of yours doesn't exist, then neither does this "devil" of yours.

Further more, you are asserting your own personal beliefs about something that you obviously do not understand which is, in and of itself, hatred.

It seems that the problem is with you, not Atheism.
Not the point, the argument is that atheists are mislead by the devil into believing their is no God so that they can be lead into sin and hellfire - if atheists not live in ignorance then they could understand the workings of God and how he is present everywhere rather than be deceived by individuals such as Darwin or Dawkins who seek to usurp God's divine claim to authority.

It is duty of faithful to help blind be lead out of sin and ignorance.
 
Don't you mean "their beliefs"? lol...because anyone so vocal is definitely defending a belief...

Yes, our belief in our right not to have to bow down to religions and their followers.
 
No, atheism is a serious matter, that religious people denounce it and not take it seriously or make light of it is the real problem. Mostly that is caused by religious arrogance and feeling of superiority combined with a blinding inability to want to acknowledge other people's rights to be non-religious.

The view is the same on the other side of the fence...
 
From what I understand, atheism is primarily a hatred of God and a wish for man to place himself above God - due to not wishing to be bound to God's laws, and wanting the freedom to live in sin - such as lust, drunkenness, and drug addictions.

This is not any different than how the devil thinks, the devil being in a rebellion against God and wishing to rule himself, rather than be subordinate to anyone.

Atheists are therefore deceived by the devil, thinking that rebellion against God and the prophets will grant them 'freedom' - because that path only leads to hell, and adopting the lifestyle of a beast who lives only beastly pleasures of sex and gluttony.

This is probably why so many atheists say that 'life is meaningless' and wish they had not been born, since they deny their true nature of being made in God's image and meant to follow him and the prophets, rather than live like an animal with no moral guidance.

I refer you to the following post.




a·the·ism
ˈāTHēˌizəm/
noun
noun: atheism
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

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They don't believe in the devil either.


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How does one hate something that doesn't exist? Why waste the energy?

They probably don't plan their lives around a possible alien invasion, either.

Between the two options, IMHO, the latter is more likely than the former.
 
Bull the most proselytizing comes from the religious lot, not from the atheist lot. We want to live as we see fit, we do not need to spread the word but when proselytized to we will also not shut our mouths and let the religious lot keep going without speaking up against it.


Organized religion is responsible for the worst atrocities in history...


I have yet to hear anything close to a rational argument that supports the validity of one religious text over another. Heck, most of the time you can't even get different followers of the *same* book to agree on it's 'correct' interpretation.


The air of moral superiority is the real kicker, though. Because naturally *their* particular interpretation is the *correct* one.
 
Organized religion is responsible for the worst atrocities in history...
That is false, worst atrocities today be those by Western nuclear powers and Israeli puppet state of Western governments
 
Not the point, the argument is that atheists are mislead by the devil into believing their is no God so that they can be lead into sin and hellfire - if atheists not live in ignorance then they could understand the workings of God and how he is present everywhere rather than be deceived by individuals such as Darwin or Dawkins who seek to usurp God's divine claim to authority.

It is duty of faithful to help blind be lead out of sin and ignorance.

there is no devil, period.
 
If you atheist, you worship the devil without realising it

there is no devil, and you cannot prove there is. And you can keep posting that nonsense but it does not make it any more logical or believable. In fact it is nothing but total and utter nonsense to claim things there is absolutely no bleeping evidence.
 
there is no devil, and you cannot prove there is. And you can keep posting that nonsense but it does not make it any more logical or believable. In fact it is nothing but total and utter nonsense to claim things there is absolutely no bleeping evidence.
Atheists believe many theories with no evidence - you cannot see an ape turn into a man, but you can see signs of God, such as in the rainbow which is sign of God's covenant with Noah - so you ignore these signs and believe in man-made theories of evolution and big bang which one cannot see anywhere.
 
That is false, worst atrocities today be those by Western nuclear powers and Israeli puppet state of Western governments

First, I said in 'history.'

I stopped reading at 'Israeli puppet state.'

It's clear you aren't interested in honest debate.

Good day.
 
Atheists believe many theories with no evidence - you cannot see an ape turn into a man, but you can see signs of God, such as in the rainbow which is sign of God's covenant with Noah - so you ignore these signs and believe in man-made theories of evolution and big bang which one cannot see anywhere.

No, we believe in logical theories based on actual evidence, and an ape did not turn into a man, an ape evolved into a man. And a rainbow is a combination of sun and rain, nothing religions in that. The whole Noah story is nonsense, there are no signs this ever happened, just like the nonsense that all animals in the world started from one couple of animals (inbreeding big time) nor is there any believable way people lived for hundreds of years. All things that are just your religion, not based on fact something that the theory of evolution is.
 
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I don't deal with liberal/Demo atheists as I don't want hem to bug me with their nonsense. Matter of fact they get on the backs of Christians and other who believe 24/7. Funny how they question God's existence but( here it comes) I'll bet they're closet racists as well.
This is all I have to say so you atheists can respond and have a ball doing it.
 
No, atheism is a serious matter, that religious people denounce it and not take it seriously or make light of it is the real problem. Mostly that is caused by religious arrogance and feeling of superiority combined with a blinding inability to want to acknowledge other people's rights to be non-religious.
Atheism is a serious matter in serious-minded men, like Sartre and Camus. Thanks to Dawkins & Company New Atheism has made atheism a joke worldwide. ;)
 
Why is it that if your not with "god" that you are the polar opposite? Quite frankly I don't know what I believe, there is a case to be made for all sides of the debate. My god tells me that I am his only disciple and that he looks after me and me alone. Does that mean that your god is 100% against me? My god doesn't go against anyone, seems a much more fair minded god IMO.

There are only 2 sides...God's side and the Devil's side...Matt. 7:13,14...there are just 2 roads...Matt. 12:30 emphasizes that fact even more..."Whoever is not on my side is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."
 
I don't deal with liberal/Demo atheists as I don't want hem to bug me with their nonsense. Matter of fact they get on the backs of Christians and other who believe 24/7. Funny how they question God's existence but( here it comes) I'll bet they're closet racists as well.
This is all I have to say so you atheists can respond and have a ball doing it.

Oh I am not going to try to convince you of what you state is a purely personal act of faith, which is what I respect every person to make, sadly a lot of religious people will not allow non-religious people to have that same privilege in the minds of a lot of religious people.

And most atheists do not get on the back of christians, I would even say it is often the other way around but that is a matter of perspective.

But you lie when you claim that we atheists are closet racists too, that is a vile lie and then you wonder why atheists dislike christians like you?
 
Atheism is a serious matter in serious-minded men, like Sartre and Camus. Thanks to Dawkins & Company New Atheism has made atheism a joke worldwide. ;)

No, atheism is a growning movement, no matter how religious people try and fight it with all fake methods.
 
No, atheism is a growning movement, no matter how religious people try and fight it with all fake methods.

May I ask what these fake methods are? Or at least one or two of those methods?
 
No, atheism is a growning movement, no matter how religious people try and fight it with all fake methods.
I didn't say New Atheism did not swell the ranks of atheism; it did. But New Atheism has no beliefs, no argument, no gravitas. It's a fad, a craze, like the hula-hoop. ;)
 
Why is it that if your not with "god" that you are the polar opposite? Quite frankly I don't know what I believe, there is a case to be made for all sides of the debate. My god tells me that I am his only disciple and that he looks after me and me alone. Does that mean that your god is 100% against me? My god doesn't go against anyone, seems a much more fair minded god IMO.


That's kinda how I view it as well. Personally, I'm agnostic...


Who am I to define *God*?


I'm baffled by the ones that insist it's *their* version. It's the worst kind of arrogance. Regardless, atheists aren't committing murder en masse because My Flying Spaghetti Monster is better than *your* Flying Spaghetti Monster.
 
May I ask what these fake methods are? Or at least one or two of those methods?

By not allowing us to hold public office in several states or work for the government (7 to be precise), among them:

Arkansas
Article 19, Section 1
"No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."

North Carolina
Article 6, Section 8
"The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God."[

Tennessee
Article 9, Section 2
"No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."


2. by spreading lies about us, and not a few lies but huge amounts of lies.

3. the ridiculous insult/public proclamation by church leaders and politicians that we have no morals and only religion gives us manner to judge our own behavior or can guide our own behavior. Or in other words the ridiculous claim/lie that morality cannot exist without belief in a deity, or that belief in god is necessary to have good values. In other words, the demonizing of atheists by making it out we are immoral/have no good values.

4. calling atheists un-American and un-patriotic.

5. the ridiculous claim that atheists are more likely to be criminals
 
This is probably why so many atheists say that 'life is meaningless' and wish they had not been born, since they deny their true nature of being made in God's image and meant to follow him and the prophets, rather than live like an animal with no moral guidance.

Atheist here. Life is great, and atheism is not worship of the devil, but it's kinda funny to think that there's people that think that. :mrgreen:
 
I didn't say New Atheism did not swell the ranks of atheism; it did. But New Atheism has no beliefs, no argument, no gravitas. It's a fad, a craze, like the hula-hoop. ;)

new atheists believe in loads of things, just not in gods. And I see the insults against atheists continue, now we have no "dignity, seriousness or solemnity of manner".

Calling something New atheism is mostly another way to just denounce atheism in general.
 
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