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Is atheism just worship of the devil under different name?

Peter King said:
Bull the most proselytizing comes from the religious lot, not from the atheist lot. We want to live as we see fit, we do not need to spread the word but when proselytized to we will also not shut our mouths and let the religious lot keep going without speaking up against it.
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That's not what happened historically. That's New Atheist rationalizing after the fact. ;)
 
Angel said:
That's not what happened historically. That's New Atheist rationalizing after the fact. ;)
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Nope, that is not what atheists do, we just won't put up with religious people making untrue comments about atheists or our role in society.
 
Atheist do not believe in the existence of divine entities. Satan by definition is a divine entity, thus Atheist do not believe in the existence of, or worship Satan.

You can't worship something that does not exist.

Not believing in the existence of something, is not the equivalent of rebelling against that something.

Do you believe in the existence of dragons? If not, you must be rebelling against dragons.
See how silly that sounds?


Islam scholar said:
From what I understand, atheism is primarily a hatred of God and a wish for man to place himself above God - due to not wishing to be bound to God's laws, and wanting the freedom to live in sin - such as lust, drunkenness, and drug addictions.

This is not any different than how the devil thinks, the devil being in a rebellion against God and wishing to rule himself, rather than be subordinate to anyone.

Atheists are therefore deceived by the devil, thinking that rebellion against God and the prophets will grant them 'freedom' - because that path only leads to hell, and adopting the lifestyle of a beast who lives only beastly pleasures of sex and gluttony.

This is probably why so many atheists say that 'life is meaningless' and wish they had not been born, since they deny their true nature of being made in God's image and meant to follow him and the prophets, rather than live like an animal with no moral guidance.
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Ikari said:
Some theists have just gotten upset because atheists have become more vocal. SO they make up terms about "new atheism" to account for the outspoken and try to condemn/insult/dismiss them whenever they can. It's a defense mechanism, since they can no longer burn or persecute us.

lol
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You're stuck historically in the era of the Spanish Inquisition, it seems.
New Atheists aren't "outspoken," a word we use to describe those with something to say. New Atheists have no argument; they're just loud. ;)
 
Elvira said:
Yeah, Satan has many people fooled...that's how he rolls..it worked with Eve and it continues to work today...
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I find it odd how Christians here are rushing to argue the OP posted by an Islamic fundamentalist. Strange bedfellows. But then again, maybe not so surprising.

All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
-Thomas Paine
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zyzygy said:
Are Hindus and Shintoists lost without the Christian god?
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No, they've got their own connection to transcendent reality. How many times must you be told this before it sinks in through the sediment of prejudice? ;)
 
Peter King said:
Angel said:
That's not what happened historically. That's New Atheist rationalizing after the fact. ;)
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Nope, that is not what atheists do, we just won't put up with religious people making untrue comments about atheists or our role in society.
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Yup, that's exactly what New Atheists are doing. Their gurus -- Dawkins & company -- became terrified by religion, published a lot of nonsense, and their followers, also frightened, started spouting a lot of nonsense on the Internet. ;)
 
ataraxia said:
I find it odd how Christians here are rushing to argue the OP posted by an Islamic fundamentalist. Strange bedfellows. But then again, maybe not so surprising.
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"among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through." 2 Cor. 4:4
 
Angel said:
And maybe they were lost. Sorry if I touched a nerve. What, by the way, do you know about the people I've known in my life? ;)
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I was just making a silly joke like the relaxed and content atheist I am. :D
 
Elvira said:
"among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through." 2 Cor. 4:4
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Yeah yeah. Heard it all elsewhere too.

“This Book is not to be doubted…. As for the unbelievers, it is the same whether or not you forewarn them; they will not have faith. God has set a seal upon their hearts and ears; their sight is dimmed and grievous punishment awaits them.”
-Quran 2:1/2:6-2:10
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Doesn't that scare you? Why aren't you running out and buying some tickets for the pilgrimage to Mecca? Hurry before it's too late! Remember: eternal hellfire awaits the unbelievers! :coffeepap
 
ataraxia said:
Yeah yeah. Heard it all elsewhere too.



Doesn't that scare you? Why aren't you running out and buying some tickets for the pilgrimage to Mecca? Hurry before it's too late! Remember: eternal hellfire awaits the unbelievers! :coffeepap
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Nope..."Have I not commanded you? Be courageous and strong. Do not be struck with terror or fear, for Jehovah your God is with you wherever you go.” Joshua 1:9
 
Islam scholar said:
From what I understand, atheism is primarily a hatred of God and a wish for man to place himself above God - due to not wishing to be bound to God's laws, and wanting the freedom to live in sin - such as lust, drunkenness, and drug addictions.

This is not any different than how the devil thinks, the devil being in a rebellion against God and wishing to rule himself, rather than be subordinate to anyone.

Atheists are therefore deceived by the devil, thinking that rebellion against God and the prophets will grant them 'freedom' - because that path only leads to hell, and adopting the lifestyle of a beast who lives only beastly pleasures of sex and gluttony.

This is probably why so many atheists say that 'life is meaningless' and wish they had not been born, since they deny their true nature of being made in God's image and meant to follow him and the prophets, rather than live like an animal with no moral guidance.
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If you had actually done any in depth research you would know just how wrong you are for trying to throw your hatred at some you obviously know nothing about. Atheism is not about :hatred of God" it is about denying the existence of such an entity, nothing more. And if this "god" of yours doesn't exist, then neither does this "devil" of yours.

Further more, you are asserting your own personal beliefs about something that you obviously do not understand which is, in and of itself, hatred.

It seems that the problem is with you, not Atheism.
 
Elvira said:
Nope..."Have I not commanded you? Be courageous and strong. Do not be struck with terror or fear, for Jehovah your God is with you wherever you go.” Joshua 1:9
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Haven’t you heard? That is not going to cut it.

Quran (2:65-66): "Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers."
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Angel said:
The most forlorn people I've know personally in my life have been atheists. Lost without God. But nothing to be done for them. Sad, really.
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You don't get out much do you?
 
Angel said:
And maybe they were lost. Sorry if I touched a nerve. What, by the way, do you know about the people I've known in my life? ;)
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That apparently none were Atheist or cared enough about your drivel to correct you.
 
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Angel said:
Yup, that's exactly what New Atheists are doing. Their gurus -- Dawkins & company -- became terrified by religion, published a lot of nonsense, and their followers, also frightened, started spouting a lot of nonsense on the Internet. ;)
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:lamo

Hilarious, we are terrified by religion? And we spout nonsense on the internet? Nope, that is what religious folks are doing on the internet (mostly at least).
 
Angel said:
You're stuck historically in the era of the Spanish Inquisition, it seems.
New Atheists aren't "outspoken," a word we use to describe those with something to say. New Atheists have no argument; they're just loud. ;)
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Just to correct you here: Atheists have nothing to say that you want to hear as it might force you to admit that your beliefs are wrong or at best just silly.
 
Peter King said:
:lamo

Hilarious, we are terrified by religion? And we spout nonsense on the internet? Nope, that is what religious folks are doing on the internet (mostly at least).
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Tell that to the atheists who troll every thread on beliefs ever posted here...:roll:
 
Peter King said:
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Hilarious, we are terrified by religion? And we spout nonsense on the internet? Nope, that is what religious folks are doing on the internet (mostly at least).
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Delighted to have handed you a laugh, Peter King. New Atheism, alas, is a laughing matter. ;)
 
Elvira said:
Tell that to the atheists who troll every thread on beliefs ever posted here...:roll:
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Again, factually incorrect, in the past there was a forum in which you could not post religion critical posts in religious part of the forum and now there is a theology section of this forum section in which:


Purpose
- A place to discuss religious matters from a religious mindset and free from any sort of derailment or focus on disbelief from a non-religious stand point.

Rule Set
- Threads and posts that are critical of religion or its spiritual aspects in a broad fashion, or are focused on attacking non-belief, are not allowed.
- Skeptical posts/threads from a non-religious basis, or ones deemed overly antagonistic towards religious beliefs, will be considered “trolling”.
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So if you want non interference from atheists you post it there, if you post threads in the normal section named belief and skepticism you have no right to complain when non-believers voice their opinion.
 
Arjay81 said:
Just to correct you here: Atheists have nothing to say that you want to hear as it might force you to admit that your beliefs are wrong or at best just silly.
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New Atheism has nothing to say, period.
If you're a New Atheist, I challenge you to offer an argument for your atheism.
 
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