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The Resurrection

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Today being Easter, everyone is celebrating something. But, many are celebrating something that probably didn't happen. Of course, I refer to the resurrection.

What is it about this Zombie Jesus story that makes it so appealing? Do you people really want to go on "living" for eternity? Do you have any idea how long that is?

Me, I look forward to death, if only for the chance to finally find some peace and quiet. The last thing I want is to spend forever and a day with a bunch of Bible thumpers. Good grief, can anyone think of a worse way to spend eternity than with the Jerry Falwells and Ted Cruzes of the world?

Anyway, take away the resurrection bull****, and that whole Jesus story starts to be really compelling. Love your neighbor; forgive people for their transgressions against you; spend a minute thinking of the plight of others; find god within yourself; piss on false prophets and be wary of ever joining in on a mob screaming "Crucify Him!" Good stuff, all of it.

Happy Easter. We're going to grill some salmon and eat butternut squash soup. :)
 
It's mostly traditional.

Back in the ancient world, it was traditional to have the leader born of a virgin and then die, be resurrected and ascend to heaven.

The early Christians piggy backed on the Jewish Bible (Old Testament) and then plagiarized Egyptian religion for the story of Jesus. For example Osiris is born of a virgin, is killed by his brother Set, is resurrected and ascends to heaven.
 
Rich2018 said:
It's mostly traditional.

Back in the ancient world, it was traditional to have the leader born of a virgin and then die, be resurrected and ascend to heaven.

The early Christians piggy backed on the Jewish Bible (Old Testament) and then plagiarized Egyptian religion for the story of Jesus. For example Osiris is born of a virgin, is killed by his brother Set, is resurrected and ascends to heaven.
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Greeks had this thing with immortality too, come to think of it. And, of course, the greatest man-gods were those born to human women after being impregnated by Zeus. Or, like Achilles, they were the offspring of female gods impregnated by mortals.
 
calamity said:
Today being Easter, everyone is celebrating something. But, many are celebrating something that probably didn't happen. Of course, I refer to the resurrection.

What is it about this Zombie Jesus story that makes it so appealing? Do you people really want to go on "living" for eternity? Do you have any idea how long that is?

Me, I look forward to death, if only for the chance to finally find some peace and quiet. The last thing I want is to spend forever and a day with a bunch of Bible thumpers. Good grief, can anyone think of a worse way to spend eternity than with the Jerry Falwells and Ted Cruzes of the world?

Anyway, take away the resurrection bull****, and that whole Jesus story starts to be really compelling. Love your neighbor; forgive people for their transgressions against you; spend a minute thinking of the plight of others; find god within yourself; piss on false prophets and be wary of ever joining in on a mob screaming "Crucify Him!" Good stuff, all of it.

Happy Easter. We're going to grill some salmon and eat butternut squash soup. :)
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The Resurrection is a promise of an afterlife. Personally, I think a few of his followers removed Jesus from his shallow tomb to short circuit grave robbers and gave him a private burial. But I've always believed that Jesus was a real guy who had peak experiences and preached very thoughtful and interesting things that explained the universal connection we have with all things and each other. I also believe that he was a political animal and it was ultimately politics that killed him. But, he was right.

So yes; Happy Easter to all.
 
Rich2018 said:
It's mostly traditional.

Back in the ancient world, it was traditional to have the leader born of a virgin and then die, be resurrected and ascend to heaven.

The early Christians piggy backed on the Jewish Bible (Old Testament) and then plagiarized Egyptian religion for the story of Jesus. For example Osiris is born of a virgin, is killed by his brother Set, is resurrected and ascends to heaven.
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Yes, the god of resurrection.

Good catch.
 
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calamity said:
Today being Easter, everyone is celebrating something. But, many are celebrating something that probably didn't happen. Of course, I refer to the resurrection.

What is it about this Zombie Jesus story that makes it so appealing? Do you people really want to go on "living" for eternity? Do you have any idea how long that is?

Me, I look forward to death, if only for the chance to finally find some peace and quiet. The last thing I want is to spend forever and a day with a bunch of Bible thumpers. Good grief, can anyone think of a worse way to spend eternity than with the Jerry Falwells and Ted Cruzes of the world?

Anyway, take away the resurrection bull****, and that whole Jesus story starts to be really compelling. Love your neighbor; forgive people for their transgressions against you; spend a minute thinking of the plight of others; find god within yourself; piss on false prophets and be wary of ever joining in on a mob screaming "Crucify Him!" Good stuff, all of it.

Happy Easter. We're going to grill some salmon and eat butternut squash soup. :)
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no reason living forever would have to be bad maybe humans are not built to like it i would not know but im sure that could be fixed

seems like sour grapes
 
blarg said:
no reason living forever would have to be bad maybe humans are not built to like it i would not know but im sure that could be fixed

seems like sour grapes
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No, I just understand really big numbers
 
Rich2018 said:
It's mostly traditional.

Back in the ancient world, it was traditional to have the leader born of a virgin and then die, be resurrected and ascend to heaven.

The early Christians piggy backed on the Jewish Bible (Old Testament) and then plagiarized Egyptian religion for the story of Jesus. For example Osiris is born of a virgin, is killed by his brother Set, is resurrected and ascends to heaven.
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And the stories of the apocalypse and the world being a battle between good and evil, stories of heaven and hell as punishments and rewards for those having taken the respective sides in this epic battle, etc... were all taken from the ancient Persian Zoroastrians. Did you know the word Paradise comes from the Persian “Pardees”? Or that the word Magi, as in the three wise men, is just the term used for a Zoroastrian priest?
 
calamity said:
Me, I look forward to death, if only for the chance to finally find some peace and quiet.
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How do you know for a fact it's going to be only peace and quiet?



The last thing I want is to spend forever and a day with a bunch of Bible thumpers. Good grief, can anyone think of a worse way to spend eternity than with the Jerry Falwells and Ted Cruzes of the world?
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You don't have to worry about that.
Just keep on rejecting Jesus......and you could get your wish.
 
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calamity said:
Anyway, take away the resurrection bull****, and that whole Jesus story starts to be really compelling. Love your neighbor; forgive people for their transgressions against you; spend a minute thinking of the plight of others; find god within yourself; piss on false prophets and be wary of ever joining in on a mob screaming "Crucify Him!" Good stuff, all of it.
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What makes the teachings against "false prophets" so compelling?
If there are false prophets - surely that means, there are real prophets! :lol:

Find god within ourselves? Why is finding God, or a god.....so compelling to you?


Basing this on that surprising revelation you gave about praying - I think you're fighting an inner battle, calamity.
At least, that's what I'm seeing - I've been thinking about you and Zyzygy the other night. Prayed for both of you.
Too bad, it's just that darn pride!
 
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calamity said:
Today being Easter, everyone is celebrating something. But, many are celebrating something that probably didn't happen. Of course, I refer to the resurrection.
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Yes, many people were indeed celebrating the resurrection yesterday.

calamity said:
What is it about this Zombie Jesus story that makes it so appealing?
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From a Christian's point of view (the majority view anyway), it is their belief that "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" (all destined for the lake of fire because of their sin). Jesus died on the cross as a perfect man (and rose again), thus defeating sin (and death), thus creating a pathway (through him) to an eternity with God, as we were created to have from the very beginning of humankind. That's what is so appealing, from a Christian's point of view, about Jesus resurrecting from the dead.

calamity said:
Do you people really want to go on "living" for eternity?
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Yes I do. An eternity of perfection is something that I would enjoy experiencing.

calamity said:
Do you have any idea how long that is?
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Yes I do.

calamity said:
Me, I look forward to death, if only for the chance to finally find some peace and quiet.
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I hope that you will one day consider that there might be more to the world, and to you and I, than just the "physical"...

calamity said:
The last thing I want is to spend forever and a day with a bunch of Bible thumpers. Good grief, can anyone think of a worse way to spend eternity than with the Jerry Falwells and Ted Cruzes of the world?
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That choice is up to you, but I hope you fully ponder the "possible" consequences of your choice.
 
Angel said:
So why not just paint eggs and hide them away and watch the kids hunt them?
Wherefore this need to disparage the beliefs of others?
Happy Easter to all of you too. :)
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I prefer chocolate to painted eggs
 
calamity said:
Today being Easter, everyone is celebrating something. But, many are celebrating something that probably didn't happen. Of course, I refer to the resurrection.

What is it about this Zombie Jesus story that makes it so appealing? Do you people really want to go on "living" for eternity? Do you have any idea how long that is?

Me, I look forward to death, if only for the chance to finally find some peace and quiet. The last thing I want is to spend forever and a day with a bunch of Bible thumpers. Good grief, can anyone think of a worse way to spend eternity than with the Jerry Falwells and Ted Cruzes of the world?

Anyway, take away the resurrection bull****, and that whole Jesus story starts to be really compelling. Love your neighbor; forgive people for their transgressions against you; spend a minute thinking of the plight of others; find god within yourself; piss on false prophets and be wary of ever joining in on a mob screaming "Crucify Him!" Good stuff, all of it.

Happy Easter. We're going to grill some salmon and eat butternut squash soup. :)
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I can't imagine the impetus behind creating a thread such as this on Easter Sunday, but it makes me feel sorry for you and also reminds me of one of Aesop's fables, the one about the dog in the manger that didn't want the hay but was determined not to let the cow enjoy it.
 
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"The profoundest mysteries of religion will to the Heathen forever remain an Ignis Ignotus."

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I started reading the opening post,got half way and starting laughing.
I've never read anything so totally gay...well a few stuff this dude barack "LL Cool Jay" obama has said and wrote.
I may not be a church goer but I do respect those who do and believe.
I'm not going to waste time going back and forth. You have your stories...clem and I have my beliefs.
I'm done.
(walks away)
 
nota bene said:
I can't imagine the impetus behind creating a thread such as this on Easter Sunday, but it makes me feel sorry for you and also reminds me of one of Aesop's fables, the one about the dog in the manger that didn't want the hay but was determined not to let the cow enjoy it.
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lol...perhaps not being caught up in the dogma allowed for some critical thinking on that auspicious day.
 
gfm7175 said:
Yes, many people were indeed celebrating the resurrection yesterday.


From a Christian's point of view (the majority view anyway), it is their belief that "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" (all destined for the lake of fire because of their sin). Jesus died on the cross as a perfect man (and rose again), thus defeating sin (and death), thus creating a pathway (through him) to an eternity with God, as we were created to have from the very beginning of humankind. That's what is so appealing, from a Christian's point of view, about Jesus resurrecting from the dead.


Yes I do. An eternity of perfection is something that I would enjoy experiencing.


Yes I do.


I hope that you will one day consider that there might be more to the world, and to you and I, than just the "physical"...


That choice is up to you, but I hope you fully ponder the "possible" consequences of your choice.
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"Jesus died on the cross as a perfect man (and rose again), thus defeating sin..."

And some wonder why so many people consider this hoaky.
 
calamity said:
"Jesus died on the cross as a perfect man (and rose again), thus defeating sin..."

And some wonder why so many people consider this hoaky.
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It's hoaky because all we've ever known is death...death was never meant to be...death is man's enemy...I look forward to the day when" the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing"...1 Cor. 15:24-26
 
calamity said:
Today being Easter, everyone is celebrating something. But, many are celebrating something that probably didn't happen. Of course, I refer to the resurrection.
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What a load of unschooled hooey.

Twelve Facts Most Scholars Agree on Concerning the Crucifixion and Resurrection

1. Jesus died by crucifixion.
2. He was buried.
3. His death caused the disciples to despair and lose hope.
4. The tomb was empty (the most contested).
5. The disciples had experiences which they believed were literal appearances of the risen Jesus (the most important proof).
6. The disciples were transformed from doubters to bold proclaimers.
7. The resurrection was the central message.
8. They preached the message of Jesus’ resurrection in Jerusalem.
9. The Church was born and grew.
10. Orthodox Jews who believed in Christ made Sunday their primary day of worship.
11. James was converted to the faith when he saw the resurrected Jesus (James was a family skeptic).
12. Paul was converted to the faith (Paul was an outsider skeptic).

12 Historical Facts - Gary Habermas
 
Elvira said:
It's hoaky because all we've ever known is death...death was never meant to be...death is man's enemy...I look forward to the day when" the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing"...1 Cor. 15:24-26
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Death is not the enemy. Death is the reward for a job well done.
 
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