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    Re: The Resurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    Your question does not answer my question.
    It answers your "god has limited power" statement. Just like an average height adult fitting into an average height infant's clothes is a logical impossibility, so is God (an eternal being) killing himself.

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    What established the morals that even god has to abide by? And if god has to abide by them, is this not a limitation fof god's power?
    You're essentially asking "who is king over the king?" ... The answer, in both cases, is no one. The king is the king... God is God. If the answer was otherwise, it would be an infinite regress of "who is king over the king?", which isn't feasible.

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    To answer your question, I physically grew bigger and the clothes physically no longer fit. Is there something deeper there?
    Yes, there is something deeper there. It shows that the particular task I would be asking of you is logically impossible, and that you are asking God to do the logically impossible when you ask him to kill himself.

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    Re: The Resurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    It answers your "god has limited power" statement. Just like an average height adult fitting into an average height infant's clothes is a logical impossibility, so is God (an eternal being) killing himself.


    You're essentially asking "who is king over the king?" ... The answer, in both cases, is no one. The king is the king... God is God. If the answer was otherwise, it would be an infinite regress of "who is king over the king?", which isn't feasible.


    Yes, there is something deeper there. It shows that the particular task I would be asking of you is logically impossible, and that you are asking God to do the logically impossible when you ask him to kill himself.
    What do human physical limitations have to do with an entity that had the power to create everything?

    There is no logical answer how an entity with unlimited power is also limited. It makes no logical sense.

    The physical universe has physical limitations. God is not physical. What causes the limitations? And how does this not change god into an entity of limited power?

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    Re: The Resurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    It answers your "god has limited power" statement. Just like an average height adult fitting into an average height infant's clothes is a logical impossibility, so is God (an eternal being) killing himself.


    You're essentially asking "who is king over the king?" ... The answer, in both cases, is no one. The king is the king... God is God. If the answer was otherwise, it would be an infinite regress of "who is king over the king?", which isn't feasible.


    Yes, there is something deeper there. It shows that the particular task I would be asking of you is logically impossible, and that you are asking God to do the logically impossible when you ask him to kill himself.
    God is limited by logic? What is logic?

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    Re: The Resurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by devildavid View Post
    What do human physical limitations have to do with an entity that had the power to create everything?

    There is no logical answer how an entity with unlimited power is also limited. It makes no logical sense.

    The physical universe has physical limitations. God is not physical. What causes the limitations? And how does this not change god into an entity of limited power?
    You're missing the part where I am answering all of that by saying that God can't do the logically impossible... In effect, the "logical universe" has "logical limitations" similar to how you correctly said that the physical universe has physical limitations.

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    Re: The Resurrection

    A detailed explanation of foreknowledge, foreordination...

    https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/...niscient&p=par
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    Re: The Resurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    You're missing the part where I am answering all of that by saying that God can't do the logically impossible... In effect, the "logical universe" has "logical limitations" similar to how you correctly said that the physical universe has physical limitations.
    So where does logic come from and how and why does it control the universe, including god? I thought god controlled everything. Before anything existed, there was only god. Was there logic as well? Was this god limited from the start? I don't see any logic in this concept of god.

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    Re: The Resurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    A detailed explanation of foreknowledge, foreordination...

    https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/...niscient&p=par
    What in that link do you think is reasonable? Why do you think that is anything more than pure nonsense?
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    Re: The Resurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    What in that link do you think is reasonable? Why do you think that is anything more than pure nonsense?
    All of it is reasonable and logical...unlike some people, I don't post pure nonsense just to be saying something...
    "Look! The nations are like a drop from a bucket, And as the film of dust on the scales they are regarded." Isaiah 40:15

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    Re: The Resurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    All of it is reasonable and logical...unlike some people, I don't post pure nonsense just to be saying something...
    Yet, you gave a raw link.. and you are unable to relay what it says, so there seems to be no understanding or comprehension when there is nothing but cut/pastes or raw ilnks.
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    Re: The Resurrection

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    Yet, you gave a raw link.. and you are unable to relay what it says, so there seems to be no understanding or comprehension when there is nothing but cut/pastes or raw ilnks.
    So, I get it...you are incompetent to read and comprehend it for yourself...
    "Look! The nations are like a drop from a bucket, And as the film of dust on the scales they are regarded." Isaiah 40:15

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