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God and The Meaning of Life

Moral realism is false. There are no objective moral facts and duties. There is no way to know if we can connect to a source of objective morality.

We do a lot of different things each day. How do we determine what kinds of behavior and thinking fall under the umbrella of morality? How do we distinguish what we have been taught and what our society tells us from this imagined source of objective morality?
 
devildavid said:
Moral realism is false. There are no objective moral facts and duties. There is no way to know if we can connect to a source of objective morality.
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You know so much that isn't true.
 
gfm7175 said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp9Nl6OUEJ0

Angel says: Would a kind soul among you please share this video with RAMOSS and zyzygy and devildavid.
Not only does it answer their quandary over objective morality, but it also sketches out the argument from morality to the existence of God, an argument I suspect they've never heard before.

Namaste.
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Of course, the moral argument is absolutely flawed and without merit.

 
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gfm7175 said:
I shared Angel's video in both video form (you'll see the black triangles) and in link form (hopefully you can see the link)
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Thanx link works black rectangle doesnt
Video makes 3 claims which are unsupported. and they dont really try to support them they just say it is dealt with in other videos. Then tries to use those 3 claims to prove each other. This is a circular argument and a logical fallacy
1. Morality is a rational exercise. If it was rational we could figure out what is right/wrong in any instance but as the video also claims we fail to do so,
2. Morality is to complex to come from humans is an argument from incredulity and a logical fallacy
3. Morality must be grounded in something unchanging. Unsupported claim and since morals change depending on the time/place society you look at there is no logic to claiming they are based on something unchanging.
 
Quag said:
Thanx link works black rectangle doesnt
Video makes 3 claims which are unsupported. and they dont really try to support them they just say it is dealt with in other videos. Then tries to use those 3 claims to prove each other. This is a circular argument and a logical fallacy
1. Morality is a rational exercise. If it was rational we could figure out what is right/wrong in any instance but as the video also claims we fail to do so,
2. Morality is to complex to come from humans is an argument from incredulity and a logical fallacy
3. Morality must be grounded in something unchanging. Unsupported claim and since morals change depending on the time/place society you look at there is no logic to claiming they are based on something unchanging.
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https://youtu.be/GykkuulgY2E

This is a link for the other video Angel provided which attempts to offer a critique to the moral relativism viewpoint.
 
RAMOSS said:
Of course, the moral argument is absolutely flawed and without merit.

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I'm afraid the clipped British accent of the nitwit in the video which you posted as a refutation of the argument for objective moral values must have fooled you into thinking his refutation is worth more than it is.

To begin with, the nitwit confuses Craig's argument for the existence of God for Craig's argument for objective moral values. And from there it's all downhill.

But I do see where you picked up your fallacy-mongering. ;)

Anyway, you also seem confused about the difference between the moral argument for God's existence and the argument for objective moral values since you post this video in reply to a video on foundationalism for objective moral values.
 
Logicman said:
I've been reading up on socialism since the 60's - probably before you were born. Socialism sucks. Just go down and live in Venezuela for a year and see how you like it.
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I was a socialist before you started reading about it. Venezuela is not Socialist nor has any other country been fully socialist. They can call it what they want but it does not match the template.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
I was a socialist before you started reading about it.
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I doubt it. Not unless you're 80 years old.

katiegrrl0 said:
Venezuela is not Socialist nor has any other country been fully socialist. They can call it what they want but it does not match the template.
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Venezuela is a Democratic Socialist country, and it's a real hell-hole.

Do you have a contemporary example of a socialist country that works?
 
God is the Meaning of Life

The Meaning of Life is God

Amen.​
 
Logicman said:
I doubt it. Not unless you're 80 years old.



Venezuela is a Democratic Socialist country, and it's a real hell-hole.

Do you have a contemporary example of a socialist country that works?
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There has never been a fully socialist country. You need to do some reading and stop listen to fairy tales told by grandparents.
 
Oy! Can't we put an end to this torture gracefully!
 
katiegrrl0 said:
There has never been a fully socialist country. You need to do some reading and stop listen to fairy tales told by grandparents.
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He is also making the mistake of having a specific economic/politic system verses any country that in corrupt.
 
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