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Thread: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

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    Re: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

    Quote Originally Posted by <alt>doxygen View Post
    I'm not certain, but I'm fairly certain that if I really was certain there would be a certain amount of comfort in that thought. That was fun to write, and it's how I actually feel.
    Yeah, exactly.

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    Re: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

    Quote Originally Posted by zyzygy View Post
    Believers of other faiths cling to their faith. The bible is not proof. Hinduism is older than Christianity so by your logic it is more rock solid than Christianity.
    You left out the persecution part...

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    Re: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

    Quote Originally Posted by zyzygy View Post
    He is a Hindu atheist.


    That si something a Religious Studies professor said in class one day. A Hindu cand be a polytheist, a monotheist or an atheist all because being a Hindu means one believes in the underlying philosophy of the faith. The philosophy which governs one's life and how one interacts with other humans causes a person to label themselves as a Hindu, or not..
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    But truth is not...reality is not truth...
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    re·al·i·ty
    rēˈalədē/Submit
    noun
    1.
    the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.

    truth
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    "he had to accept the truth of her accusation"
    synonyms: veracity, truthfulness, verity, sincerity, candor, honesty; More
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    Re: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maccabee View Post
    And what makes you think that?
    the omniscience and omnipotence im assuming this god to have

    if you know how people will act beofre you make them and you make peel who will act in one way instead of another your choosing what they will do

    hell even with out the omnipotence if its inevitable you will act one way you dont have free will the universe is just mechanical at that point

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    Re: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maccabee View Post
    Why is it the only option? For the same reason why the only option for you to be saved from drowning is to trust the life gaurd that's saving you. God is holy and just. He cannot allow imperfection to live with him forever. There must be a way for redemption. In the physical world, a judge neither weighs your good works against your bad nor does he just lets you slide by without some sort of repayment to society.

    Why is there eternal punishment for only at most 100 years of your life? For the same reason why we have life without parol or the death penalty for an act that only took a few minutes. It's because our acts are that severe to God.

    As for why would God hide himself? I answered this in another post. To add, I've met people who said that if God appeared to them, they would still not change.



    All powerful doesn't mean he can do anything. He can't go back on his word or contrafict his character.



    The life guard also set rules for us to follow and gave us the ability to learn how to swim. If God made children to be invincible to things like being hit by a car, would that child ever learn to not play in the street?
    whats holy and just supposed to mean hear eternal punishments for finite crimes are not just your not helping any one and your hurting people infinity more then they hurt others

    why was it good for the life guard to set you up to be able to drown?

    why cant god allow imperfection and if he cant why create it and why not let people just be able to change themselves if being perfect is good then people should switch to it once they figure that out if you give them the ability to do so

    and if your hurting people forever then thers still alive so whats that solve maybe god can choose to not be in places but why not let people have a place that can be nice away form it should not be hard for it

    these acts cant be that sever to god we cant touch god only 1 another and if we have immortal souls that can be made well nothing is eternally severe

    you have not given a good answer to why a god would hide itself

    um all powerful seems like it means that yes he can do anything but even if it cant why make words that are evil and have a character that is evil can god not stop itself form doing evil?

    the life guard should not have invented the dangers the rules weer for its a terrible life guard in that case and if the child is invincible to cars why not let it ply in the street it would be just fine if your worried about the cars im sure god could mange to make them phase through objects in the way

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    Re: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    I hope that you will one day come to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour before it is too late, instead of keeping a "hardened heart". Have a pleasant evening, Kind Sir.
    i hope the universe is not the comic horror story ruled over by a pointlessly evil and cruel tyrant you make it out to be

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    Re: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Exactly this! God (Jesus Christ) has already appeared on this Earth in human form (about 2,000 years ago), and he did many great miracles and proved without a shadow of a doubt that he is who he said he is, but even given all that, his own creation (and chosen people) demanded that he be crucified for blasphemy...

    Point being, even if he were to appear on Earth once again like he did 2,000 years ago, many people would STILL not believe.
    um they would believe god exists and they would probably change if they had the ability to do so and god made some convincing augments for why they should

    and the problem with what you said is we dont know any one was ever a god and did miracles we have world wide mutually exclusive gods performing miracles some of it has to be made up any and or all of it could be

    and if i recall god was pretty hard on blasphemy in the old testament kinda shot himself in the foot or nailed himself on that one

    maybe i would not know god was a god but if some one shows up and can do anything im willing to entertain the idea they likely could be

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    Re: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    In the Bible... in history... passed down from generation to generation... I don't think it's a coincidence that true Christianity as a belief has lasted as long as it has, and has been as rock solid through worldly persecution and ridicule as it has been, if it was all just a bunch of hog wash... There is a reason that people "cling to their faith" even though the world as a whole is against them
    so people said so

    well people can say things that are not true so what else you got

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    Re: Liberalism vs. Biblical Christianity [W:463]

    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    You left out the persecution part...
    so the Jews got it right and Christianity and Islam are fan fiction?

    could hold up so long as only one group of peel have ever been persecuted

    falls apart as even a possibility if not

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