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Massive Terror Attack in Australia Foiled, Isis to Blame

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A senior Islamic State figure in Syria dictated a plan to execute mass-casualty terrorism on Australian soil and managed to send a "military-grade explosive" to Sydney undetected.

The alleged terrorism conspiracy that police cracked open last week served as a chilling example of how IS figures use supporters as puppets to carry out terrorism in foreign countries.

Messages between Lakemba man Khaled Mahmoud Khayat, 49, and IS spanned months and delved into how the most destructive plot ever concocted on Australian soil would be executed.

The method of "virtually planning" involves IS operatives feeding overseas supporters instructions via encrypted communication platforms on how to carry out terrorism.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/islamic-s...ive-australia-undetected-20170804-gxpqin.html
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Isis managed to smuggle military grade explosives into Australia, which was to be planted on a passenger jet. Another plot involved attacking crowds in Sydney, with some kind of chemical weapon. Thank God they never succeeded in their plans.

Isis has infiltrated many western countries, finding sympathizers amongst the Muslims living there. This Australian plot could have killed hundreds of people. It only took one massive shooting spree for Australia to ban guns, why are they still taking chances with potential Isis sympathizers?
 
truthatallcost said:
Isis managed to smuggle military grade explosives into Australia, which was to be planted on a passenger jet. Another plot involved attacking crowds in Sydney, with some kind of chemical weapon. Thank God they never succeeded in their plans.

Isis has infiltrated many western countries, finding sympathizers amongst the Muslims living there. This Australian plot could have killed hundreds of people. It only took one massive shooting spree for Australia to ban guns, why are they still taking chances with potential Isis sympathizers?
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What do you propose do about that, imprison all Muslims?
 
Carjosse said:
What do you propose do about that, imprison all Muslims?
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Begin with an honest dialogue on the pros and cons of Muslim immigration to Australia. Do the pros outweigh the cons? Do they contribute more to the economy than they take away? Is the number of Muslim police and military service members grater than the number of Muslims incarcerated in Australian prisons? Etc.
 
truthatallcost said:
Begin with an honest dialogue on the pros and cons of Muslim immigration to Australia. Do the pros outweigh the cons? Do they contribute more to the economy than they take away? Is the number of Muslim police and military service members grater than the number of Muslims incarcerated in Australian prisons? Etc.
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I actually think this discussion is a good one to have, I'm just not sure those who are anti-Muslim would like or believe the results. The reason I know this is because this analysis has been done in America, and yet, despite the fact that Muslims who commit politically or religiously motivated crime is almost immeasurably small when compared against the percentage who do not, we still see massive amounts of Islamophobia, billions of dollars spent on "defense", and the voluntary surrender of fundamental American rights and freedoms to combat the perceived "risk".
 
truthatallcost said:
Begin with an honest dialogue on the pros and cons of Muslim immigration to Australia. Do the pros outweigh the cons? Do they contribute more to the economy than they take away? Is the number of Muslim police and military service members grater than the number of Muslims incarcerated in Australian prisons? Etc.
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Well if you were that committee of 1, it would be all Cons.
 
truthatallcost said:
Isis managed to smuggle military grade explosives into Australia, which was to be planted on a passenger jet. Another plot involved attacking crowds in Sydney, with some kind of chemical weapon. Thank God they never succeeded in their plans.

Isis has infiltrated many western countries, finding sympathizers amongst the Muslims living there. This Australian plot could have killed hundreds of people. It only took one massive shooting spree for Australia to ban guns, why are they still taking chances with potential Isis sympathizers?
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If only Trump had agreed to take in the refugees Turnbull wanted to export this could have all been avoided...at least in Australia.
 
JANFU said:
Well if you were that committee of 1, it would be all Cons.
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Any company that ran its HR Dept the way we run our immigration practices would go bankrupt within several years. If you ran your home in this way you'd lose your home. We'll lose our country eventually.
 
truthatallcost said:
Is the number of Muslim police and military service members grater than the number of Muslims incarcerated in Australian prisons? Etc.
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What kind of test is this? Other flaws aside, do you see how it might be weighted for the majority power?

What sort of conclusions do you draw from this measure.
 
truthatallcost said:
Isis managed to smuggle military grade explosives into Australia, which was to be planted on a passenger jet. Another plot involved attacking crowds in Sydney, with some kind of chemical weapon. Thank God they never succeeded in their plans.

Isis has infiltrated many western countries, finding sympathizers amongst the Muslims living there. This Australian plot could have killed hundreds of people. It only took one massive shooting spree for Australia to ban guns, why are they still taking chances with potential Isis sympathizers?
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As usual, you miss the point of the story....they were caught.

But I have to say you are a genius at creating paranoia.
 
truthatallcost said:
Any company that ran its HR Dept the way we run our immigration practices would go bankrupt within several years. If you ran your home in this way you'd lose your home. We'll lose our country eventually.
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Terrorists are a statistically insignificant minority, they come in all shapes and sizes. It's a violent lunatic fringe that has and probably will always exist. We, the people, don't need to fear being over-run. If violent mentally ill people were gonna over-run society, they would have already succeeded, probably tens or hundreds of thousands of years ago.
 
truthatallcost said:
Any company that ran its HR Dept the way we run our immigration practices would go bankrupt within several years. If you ran your home in this way you'd lose your home. We'll lose our country eventually.
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bullcrap
 
ecofarm said:
What kind of test is this? Other flaws aside, do you see how it might be weighted for the majority power?
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No. Australia isn't obliged to take in people who will be a burden on their system, they aren't the USA. If anything, as a much smaller country, they should learn from the success and mistakes of others countries. With the USA being an example of how not to pattern a society.

What sort of conclusions do you draw from this measure.
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I'm not saying anything too radical here to begin with. Pro immigration forces in the US constantly tell us that the pros outweigh the cons concerning immigration. So let's commission an accurate study, completely out of the hands of the political think tanks, that will outline whether the benefits truly outweigh the costs.
 
katzgar said:
bullcrap
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Ok, remove the locks from all doors on your house. Allow anyone who wants to use your house to do so. Also create a cash incentive to get people to come to your house. Put ads on Craigslist saying that trespassers are given sanctuary on your property, and won't be removed by law enforcement.

Let us know how that turns out :lamo
 
truthatallcost said:
Ok, remove the locks from all doors on your house. Allow anyone who wants to use your house to do so. Also create a cash incentive to get people to come to your house. Put ads on Craigslist saying that trespassers are given sanctuary on your property, and won't be removed by law enforcement.

Let us know how that turns out :lamo
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WTF are you ranting about?
 
Fearandloathing said:
As usual, you miss the point of the story....they were caught.

But I have to say you are a genius at creating paranoia.
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One could derive several points from stories like these. How about you address this point that one can learn from doing a little research; 97% of Australians aren't Muslim, yet most of the terrorist plots there involve Muslims.
 
ecofarm said:
Terrorists are a statistically insignificant minority, they come in all shapes and sizes. It's a violent lunatic fringe that has and probably will always exist. We, the people, don't need to fear being over-run. If violent mentally ill people were gonna over-run society, they would have already succeeded, probably tens or hundreds of thousands of years ago.
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They've nearly managed that feat in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt, etc. Afghanistan will eventually fall back under the control of the Taliban, if history is any indication of how the future will unfold. As the number of Muslims rise in Western countries, won't they seek to implement their culture here? We've caught a glimpse of this already with Sharia Councils in Europe, the demand for Muslim-only areas on college campuses, etc.

The original leadership of al Qaeda were mostly wealthy Muslims who had Western educations, yet denounced Western culture at some point, in favor of radical Islam. I don't think we can safely predict who will embrace religious terrorism.
 
Carjosse said:
What do you propose do about that, imprison all Muslims?
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What a pointless and ridiculous response. Can't you simply recognize the fact that some Muslims are intent on killing as many infidels as possible and react accordingly? We need extreme vigilance against these bastards and what I would love to know is how we can tell the good ones from the bad ones. Do you have any suggestions, or just more useless rhetorical questions? Either contribute something useful or STFU.
 
ecofarm said:
Terrorists are a statistically insignificant minority, they come in all shapes and sizes. It's a violent lunatic fringe that has and probably will always exist. We, the people, don't need to fear being over-run. If violent mentally ill people were gonna over-run society, they would have already succeeded, probably tens or hundreds of thousands of years ago.
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Then let's not worry about being "over-run". Let's worry about some bastard Islamist militant blowing away as many innocent Westerners as possible, and how we're going to stop them if we have to worry about how to do that without being "racist". Does that sound like a plan?
 
truthatallcost said:
Begin with an honest dialogue on the pros and cons of Muslim immigration to Australia. Do the pros outweigh the cons? Do they contribute more to the economy than they take away? Is the number of Muslim police and military service members grater than the number of Muslims incarcerated in Australian prisons? Etc.
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So other than spreading fear and distress on their behalf, how else do you support ISIS?
 
Manc Skipper said:
So other than spreading fear and distress on their behalf, how else do you support ISIS?
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I'd be helping them more if I toed the progressive line by ignoring the repeated attempts by Isis to murder people in the West. The more we shine a light on these slugs, the more likely they are to be bombed out of existence. And rounded up in places like Australia.
 
Assholes. That being said, just fantastic efforts from our law enforcement and intelligence agencies here.
 
truthatallcost said:
I'd be helping them more if I toed the progressive line by ignoring the repeated attempts by Isis to murder people in the West. The more we shine a light on these slugs, the more likely they are to be bombed out of existence. And rounded up in places like Australia.
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You encourage their excesses and spread their message while providing them with evidence of the West's hate for all Muslims, as they claim. Good job!
 
Manc Skipper said:
You encourage their excesses and spread their message while providing them with evidence of the West's hate for all Muslims, as they claim. Good job!
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Oh I'm sure al-Bagdadi reads Debate Politics from within the confines of his secret hideout. But what about Bin Laden's motives for terrorism? I don't remember there being a huge segment of Islamophobic sentiment in the US prior to 9/11.

You don't understand the roots of Islamic terrorism Manc. They don't give a damn whether you like them or not. You've been commenting on this issue for far too long not to know that.
 
Serenity said:
Assholes. That being said, just fantastic efforts from our law enforcement and intelligence agencies here.
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It is impressive that they uncovered the plot. They just saved the lives of hundreds of people.
 
truthatallcost said:
One could derive several points from stories like these. How about you address this point that one can learn from doing a little research; 97% of Australians aren't Muslim, yet most of the terrorist plots there involve Muslims.
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Oh, that means Muslims are terrorists. Did I guess right?
 
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