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Rage Space? Muslim Safe Space Draws Aussie Ire

soylentgreen said:
No, just trying to pass laws that discriminate or remove personal choice. Or knock on doors with unwanted solicitation. And be really annoying on debate sites with stupid arguments for the existence of an imaginary friend.

Or we could go to third world countries where the bible is used to kill women and children or rob the poor of what little they have and be an excuse for the spread of disease.

But again, that still does not explain the millions who live in peace with their religion and cause no one any harm.

Religion is an excuse to do harm, not a cause.
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This is about taxpayers being burdened with a tax for Muslims in a secular society. It is outrageous and appeasement and sets Islam up as a victim. Anything on that?
 
Tigerace117 said:
.....Says the guy who supported terrorist attacks on Muslims in the US.
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And that has what place here? I do not support any terror. You saying so by twisting my words is hardly the topic.
 
Chagos said:
:lamo:lamo:lamo
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I agree, his posts and yours are very funny. If they did not defend the indefensible, which is really sad, not funny at all. Take a look around the house, your moral compass is somewhere, I hope you find it.
 
coldjoint said:
And that has what place here? I do not support any terror. You saying so by twisting my words is hardly the topic.
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No, not only have I not "twisted" your words in the slightest, but your hatred of Muslims--- to the point of supporting terrorism--- is completely in topic.
 
Tigerace117 said:
No, not only have I not "twisted" your words in the slightest, but your hatred of Muslims--- to the point of supporting terrorism--- is completely in topic.
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What about the hate in Islam? Why do you never discuss the obvious?
 
Fledermaus said:
It shows you to be a hypocrite.



Have you denounced Christian Terror acts? Last time I checked you denied the existence of Christian terror.



Then it isn't about time?
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It shows you have nothing to say on topic. Start a thread about what you think. It does not apply here.
 
coldjoint said:
What about the hate in Islam? Why do you never discuss the obvious?
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Because a minority of a minority of Muslims support "hate". You pretend it's "Islam" on the other hand to justify the terroristic actions of your allies
 
coldjoint said:
I agree, his posts and yours are very funny. If they did not defend the indefensible, which is really sad, not funny at all. Take a look around the house, your moral compass is somewhere, I hope you find it.
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"dead people are always non-sequitur" is sufficiently silly a statement as to merit laughter. But I definitely agree that there's also a sad side to it.

Both on content as on making such an uttering at all.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Because a minority of a minority of Muslims support "hate". You pretend it's "Islam" on the other hand to justify the terroristic actions of your allies
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It is Islam, read their literature and get back to me. This is what Islam says, Muslims cannot change that.
 
coldjoint said:
It shows you have nothing to say on topic. Start a thread about what you think. It does not apply here.
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At the risk of this getting boring (again), neither of the two demands bolded are YOUR call.
 
Chagos said:
"dead people are always non-sequitur" is sufficiently silly a statement as to merit laughter. But I definitely agree that there's also a sad side to it.

Both on content as on making such an uttering at all.
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You have no high ground here. There is nothing in Islam about compassion or mercy for any non-Muslim. You know that and insist on defending a totalitarian viscous ideology that passes for religion.
 
Chagos said:
At the risk of this getting boring (again), neither of the two demands bolded are YOUR call.
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Never boring with someone who just blows hot air like you.:lamo
 
But counter-terrorism expert Prof Greg Barton said the council’s suggestion was not necessarily a bad one and would depend on how it was set up.

“There is merit in the idea of safe spaces to talk about ideas otherwise regarded as too dangerous but of course that shouldn’t be done in an unregulated fashion,” Barton said. “Of course having a police presence there would defeat the purpose but you could have people on hand with some authority and expertise gently speak to people about these alternative positions.

“It’s not necessarily a crazy proposal~.......................... ~but there are other, non-violent young people very confused, genuinely confused, who will be susceptible to anyone who gives them time and that’s where we should have been investing in clever ways for them to discuss their ideas in a safe space.”
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/08/daniel-andrews-attacks-islamic-council-of-victorias-plan-for-safe-space

I'm personally not much enamoured with the idea (read as being sceptical), but then I'm not engaged in having to come up with possible solutions to the issues here, beyond ranting off on a forum.
 
coldjoint said:
You have no high ground here. There is nothing in Islam about compassion or mercy for any non-Muslim. You know that and insist on defending a totalitarian viscous ideology that passes for religion.
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Of course there is (referring to the bolded).

But for reasons repeatedly stated, I won't discuss that or other aspects of Islam with you alone on the principle of your extreme ignorance on it, the referred statement above providing yet another example.
 
coldjoint said:
It is Islam, read their literature and get back to me. This is what Islam says, Muslims cannot change that.
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Actually, considering how many different interpretations of religions there are, people change religions all the time
 
coldjoint said:
If the youth wish to discuss Islam they have the mosque. It is another way to separate Muslims from their host society and therefore set them apart as special. which is exactly what they want. Taxpayer dollars for something they already have a space for? It is appeasement and another way to inflict Sharia.
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Actually, they could always join Hizb ut-Tahrir, an Islamic terrorist organisation which is not banned in Australia as it is internationally. They say whatever they like, are extremely dangerous and, seemingly, protected. Why they are not banned is beyond me and one day Australia will pay for it. Muslims can feel right at home in this organisation and say whatever they want.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Actually, considering how many different interpretations of religions there are, people change religions all the time
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You change from Islam in the wrong place you will be killed. How do you think the religion survived this long?
 
Grand Mal said:
Boneheads Down Under? Is this even in the same ballpark as some of the crap you boneheads pull? Where do you think that whole 'safe space' thing was born? Right in your backyard.
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If you wish to bad rap America there is a forum for that.:mrgreen:
 
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