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    Re: Australia will support Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomjas View Post
    And now for a dose of reality
    Not from you though
    We are now living in 2017 and no Australian in their right mind denies that much of the treatment of our indigenous people was appalling at best
    However, numerous initiatives aimed at reconciliation, compensation and bestowing rights to aborigines have been implemented since the 1970s.
    To be fair, some are misguided whilst others are mere band-aids but to equate modern day Australia with an apartheid-style regime is nothing short of nonsense.
    Actually apartheid is a horrible truth of australia. Your government still steals their children and their land, even their own life expectancy is getting lower. Your band aides are only there so people like you can ignore what is really being done.
    As for Christmas Island, you need to check your facts as the vast majority of detainees are visa holders that have forfeited their rights to residency by being convicted of crimes punishable by a minimum of 12 months in jail
    Actually no, there are quite a few there who have had no criminal charge only suspected. There are also others who have lived their whole lives in australia with no family or contact to whichever island they go to.
    Nauru and others are different in that the detainees are all there because they attempted to enter the country illegally and have virtually no evidence to back up their claims.
    But apparently vetted by australia and called refugees so that they will be accepted by america. Or are you saying that your own government lied and they are actually unknowns of which australia did absolutely nothing but dump them on an island prison.
    The idea that these are not refugees has long gone and is only being used now as a another lie .
    It obviously is far from perfect but better than having a free for all where anyone that washes up on a beach is granted residency and goes straight onto welfare
    Use of hyperbole does not help your case either. The generalising of welfare is nothing more than another bit of scare propaganda used by your government and is another sign of an apartheid mentality.
    Furthermore, having lived in China and the Middle East plus travelled extensively, I can assure you that Australia is nowhere near being the most racist country on earth.

    In fact, we would be lucky to get out of the heats let alone finish on the podium.
    Not a fact that lessens any guilt from the bigoted, sexist and racist mentality that does exist in australia to such an extent that people like yourself can fool yourself that it does not happen.

    Lastly, I suggest you look into your own back-yard before criticising ours.

    Does the genocide of the Moriori people ring any bells?

    The death of more than 50% of the Maori population by 1900?


    How about the confiscation of lands, destruction of culture and economic suppression of the Maori people that was commonplace until the 70s?

    Sounds like we have more in common than you would care to admit
    Again, irrelevant to the deeds of australia. And you may want to take that up with maori.


    No, it sounds like a desperate attempt usually played by australians. Instead of owning up to the murder of their indigenous or the racial tensions created in australia. you instead pretend that any other events happening anywhere else excuse you. It does not. Nor were the events in nz anywhere near as disastrous for the maori as they have been for australian aborigines. Or as you falsely portray them in an attempt to change the subject from australias racial crimes.

    Australia is in a unique position where the mineral rich country can produce enough wealth that business and government can throw incentives around to have people ignore what they are doing.

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    Re: Australia will support Donald Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by soylentgreen View Post
    Not from you though

    Actually apartheid is a horrible truth of australia. Your government still steals their children and their land, even their own life expectancy is getting lower. Your band aides are only there so people like you can ignore what is really being done.

    Actually no, there are quite a few there who have had no criminal charge only suspected. There are also others who have lived their whole lives in australia with no family or contact to whichever island they go to.

    But apparently vetted by australia and called refugees so that they will be accepted by america. Or are you saying that your own government lied and they are actually unknowns of which australia did absolutely nothing but dump them on an island prison.
    The idea that these are not refugees has long gone and is only being used now as a another lie .

    Use of hyperbole does not help your case either. The generalising of welfare is nothing more than another bit of scare propaganda used by your government and is another sign of an apartheid mentality.

    Not a fact that lessens any guilt from the bigoted, sexist and racist mentality that does exist in australia to such an extent that people like yourself can fool yourself that it does not happen.


    Again, irrelevant to the deeds of australia. And you may want to take that up with maori.


    No, it sounds like a desperate attempt usually played by australians. Instead of owning up to the murder of their indigenous or the racial tensions created in australia. you instead pretend that any other events happening anywhere else excuse you. It does not. Nor were the events in nz anywhere near as disastrous for the maori as they have been for australian aborigines. Or as you falsely portray them in an attempt to change the subject from australias racial crimes.

    Australia is in a unique position where the mineral rich country can produce enough wealth that business and government can throw incentives around to have people ignore what they are doing.
    Wow, so much rubbish in one post but I'll try to address the major issues.

    1. Please provide evidence that I have ever denied the undeniable fact that white Australians attempted genocide against its' indigenous people

    2. Please provide evidence that I have ever denied the undeniable fact that the Stolen Generation ever happened

    3. Please review NATIVE TITLE ACT 1993 in relation to your claim that "white Australia" continues to steal land

    4. Please review all of the relevant Child Welfare Acts in relation to your claim that "white Australia" continues to steal children

    5. Please explain why Indigenous Australians are entitled to substantially more social welfare assistance to "white Australia" in similar situations

    6. Please explain how Australia has already had a female PM, has a female Deputy PM, 2 female Premiers, MDs of major companies, etc AND legislates in favour of female employment whilst remaining an overtly sexist country

    Also, please bear in mind that I advise an Indigenous Land Council that literally reaps million of $p.a. from a mining royalty agreement

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