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Coronavirus: Global death toll exceeds 3,000 as China reports 42 more fatalities

This was far worse:

The estimated number of deaths was 1 million worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States. Most excess deaths were in people 65 years and older.
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1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus)

I caught that back in the day. I am a survivor.
 
Does president Obama get the blame for this one?

Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.
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2009 H1N1 Pandemic (H1N1pdm09 virus)
 
Threads like this are awesome! They clearly demonstrate the difference between rational criticism and TDS. If you are posting here wondering why Trump hasn't used his god-like powers to end all disease and secretly hoping for a higher death toll and more alarmist drama will ensue ... well, you're the reason he will get 4 more years. TDS is why people don't take this crap seriously anymore. So many desperate attempts to trash the man for breathing funny that things like his crimes are hard to differentiate from made up BS are all causing his numbers to stay high. Just like denying he had anything to do with the dramatic increases in stocks which you said couldn't possibly be his work, but now the drop the absurd panic over this flu has caused has nothing to do with it; Trump just plain crashed the market by himself.

The idiots who are so constantly screaming how much Trump is the anti-Christ are muddying the waters and letting him get away with whatever he wants. Unfortunately, on top of that, people like you are making it hard to read posts because so many cause uncontrollable eye rolling and make the whole thing feel like a waste of time.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Trump would lose in November.
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I'm not so sure. Again, like in 2016, for most people it comes down to two viable choices. Very few will vote third party like I did and plan to do again. Unlike 2016, this isn't two deplorables, one D, one R. This time it's the Devil you know and the one you don't. Unlike the momentum of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, I don't see any of this Election year's crop of Democrats having it. Voters will vote for the status quo.

In the case of a mass casualty epidemic, most Americans already know Trump is a loud-mouthed dumbass so they'll disregard what he says if they haven't done so already. They'll look at Europe, Japan and South Korea. If those modern nations have the same level of casualties, it's a push. If the US has more, which I strongly doubt no matter who is the dumbass-in-charge, then it will hurt Trump.
 
Keridan said:
Threads like this are awesome! They clearly demonstrate the difference between rational criticism and TDS. If you are posting here wondering why Trump hasn't used his god-like powers to end all disease and secretly hoping for a high...
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Trump Dicksucker Syndrome is not the topic. Like with Obama or any other President, there will always be those who support their guy no matter what happens and those who don't. In this case it's not that most people expect miracles, it's that they expect truth and competence from their elected leadership. It's one thing to BS about campaign promises and each other, but to BS about a national security risk is a completely different matter.
 
Barnacle said:
Trump ... that's all. The cause of all the liberals' misery. (grin)

You know, reading foreign reports, we seem to be the only country in the world that has a political party blaming the Corona virus on the president.
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If we weren't living in bizarro land with the MSM leading these people by the noses, Trump would be lauded for his fast action in slowing down the infection rates compared to other highly populated countries. If these numbers were achieved by Obama they would be talking another Nobel prize.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Trump Dicksucker Syndrome is not the topic. Like with Obama or any other President, there will always be those who support their guy no matter what happens and those who don't. In this case it's not that most people expect miracles, it's that they expect truth and competence from their elected leadership. It's one thing to BS about campaign promises and each other, but to BS about a national security risk is a completely different matter.
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If it really were about competent leadership, we wouldn't have seen all the debacles from the left as they drive their heads further up their butts. We wouldn't have the weak ass lineup of candidates in the primary who are lucky to find their own office getting to work, much less lead a country. Getting rid of Trump with all his screw ups should be no problem at all. He has done a miserable job in many areas and his demeanor is a sad commentary on the office.

However, people are so drowned in BS like when folks call this bug that has a lower death rate than the flu a national crisis and lie about him gutting the CDC and many other things from failing to make a case on the 7th try for impeachment and a huge list of other failures - TDS has made it hard for the public to even figure out how much of his screw ups are real and how much are the deranged spewings of those who hate Trump beyond all reason. The obsessive and often dishonest and pathetic rantings have made it so people can't separate real criticism from the kind of rambling you hear from the drunk guy begging you for money on the corner.

Real assessment would have made it easy to get him voted out. TDS is definitely a huge factor in why the weak candidates in the upcoming election will be fighting an uphill battle to come close to defeating him.

What I wouldn't give for one single strong lefty right now!
 
Keridan said:
If it really were about competent leadership, we wouldn't have seen all the debacles from the left as they drive their heads further up their butts. We wouldn't have the weak ass lineup of candidates in the primary who are lucky to find their own office getting to work, much less lead a country. Getting rid of Trump with all his screw ups should be no problem at all. He has done a miserable job in many areas and his demeanor is a sad commentary on the office. ...!
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Agreed on the Left, but the last competent Republican we had was GHW Bush. Since then it's a been a string of losers and incompetents.

I already tried to bet one TDSer who claims Trump is correct that this is no worse than the flu but when I tried to bet him money on it, he ran. LOL
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed on the Left, but the last competent Republican we had was GHW Bush. Since then it's a been a string of losers and incompetents.

I already tried to bet one TDSer who claims Trump is correct that this is no worse than the flu but when I tried to bet him money on it, he ran. LOL
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Currently it is nowhere near as bad as the flu. And the death toll seems to be 3x from covid to flu, but there are also tons of cases where the infected don't show any outward symptoms. It's impossible to get a measure of it at this point. There are too many panic attacks and, from the other side, too many attempts to downplay it. No news on it has been reliable yet. It's obviously a threat and something to be concerned about when it doesn't respond to usual treatments, but I don't know yet how serious it is. I don't think anyone does. Honestly, I'm surprised it's even a partisan issue, though I probably shouldn't be.

They can't even manufacture enough testing kits yet to figure out who really has it and who has good ol' influenza A. I just hope all this panic doesn't lead to people giving up freedoms.

I actually suspect the flu my boys and I all had a couple weeks ago might have been covid, but we will never know. It didn't respond to antibiotics, but it's passed now and we won't be tested (if that would even help)

As crazy as it all is, I'm not sure how much more could be done at this point even with the 2.5 bil requested to fund it. We don't even know how serious it is and you can't cordon off a whole country without destroying quality of life.

Ah well, wait and watch and hope for the best, I guess. Kinda like the primaries.
 
Keridan said:
Currently it is nowhere near as bad as the flu. And the death toll seems to be 3x from covid to flu, but there are also tons of cases where the infected don't show any outward symptoms. It's impossible to get a measure of it at this point. There are too many panic attacks and, from the other side, too many attempts to downplay it. No news on it has been reliable yet. It's obviously a threat and something to be concerned about when it doesn't respond to usual treatments, but I don't know yet how serious it is. I don't think anyone does. Honestly, I'm surprised it's even a partisan issue, though I probably shouldn't be.

They can't even manufacture enough testing kits yet to figure out who really has it and who has good ol' influenza A. I just hope all this panic doesn't lead to people giving up freedoms.

I actually suspect the flu my boys and I all had a couple weeks ago might have been covid, but we will never know. It didn't respond to antibiotics, but it's passed now and we won't be tested (if that would even help)

As crazy as it all is, I'm not sure how much more could be done at this point even with the 2.5 bil requested to fund it. We don't even know how serious it is and you can't cordon off a whole country without destroying quality of life.

Ah well, wait and watch and hope for the best, I guess. Kinda like the primaries.
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The bet would have been assessed at the end of December 2020.
 
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