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    Re: Trump to sign phase one trade deal with China, announces planned trip to Beijing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I see, and if democrats win in 2020 there will be a phase 2 and 3?
    I never said that, you did
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    Re: Trump to sign phase one trade deal with China, announces planned trip to Beijing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    And the consequences of that action on our economy would be what?
    No different than the consequences of other nations that cut off our access to their markets for our products.

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    Re: Trump to sign phase one trade deal with China, announces planned trip to Beijing

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangmo View Post
    While the US must naturally require environmental action in any deal it makes with developing countries such as the CCP-PRC economy the current primitive attitudes of the White House toward the environment can be overlooked somewhat concerning Beijing.

    It was back in 2010 the then president of the CCP-PRC Hu Jintao had to get the Politburo and Central Committee that runs the government to allow the prolific spontaneous and unauthorized public demonstrations that had been occurring throughout developed China that to the present demand environmental cleanup and immediate action. Because of public widespread demand Beijing is on it big time to clean up its grotesquely fouled land, air, water because the population is furious about it.

    It's grim when at high noon you in your city can't see the sun through the black air that you have to breathe. Every drop of water needs to be boiled or else to you and your family. Arable land is down to something like 8% percent last time I looked just a while ago.

    In my working and living in the CCP-PRC I see environmental projects everywhere I go. I get introduced to so and so Yuppie guy or gal who's working on this or that environmental project to include the one going on a couple of blocks up the road.

    The US in every deal and agreement it makes with the CCP-PRC should be complementing this big time too but it's not and it never does when a Republican is Potus. It always does this when a Democrat is Potus. This seems to be a law of nature in USA politics and government.
    Even in terms of pure economics, failing to have environmental safeguards as part of trade cooks in a competitive advantage for other countries over the US.

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    Re: Trump to sign phase one trade deal with China, announces planned trip to Beijing

    Quote Originally Posted by holbritter View Post
    America doesn't illegally break them. They don't 'dump' their goods to deliberately undercut the local manufacturers, even at a loss, in order to force competition out of business. That's the dishonest trade practice China consistently practice, that I'm referring to. That and their habit of lying about what's in their products, exporting their goods knowing they contain prohibited ingredients/parts. And when we ban a product from them, they just go through another country to get them here.
    Putting tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum when you have a free-trade agreement in place is absolutely illegal. It's the sort of thing that makes America untrustworthy. Not just trade- Trump backed out of agreements signed by Obama with nothing more than an executive order. How can anyone trust the USA when a new President means all deals are off and you start over again?
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