Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: 'People's war of surveillance' ensures China will never be free

  1. #1
    Sage
    JacksinPA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    10,385

    'People's war of surveillance' ensures China will never be free

    'People's war of surveillance' ensures China will never be free | TheHill

    Advocates of accommodation with China often argue that compromise will aid democracy within China. Even if that were true, a democracy movement needs a supportive civil society. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) unfortunately has killed civil society through its creation of the world’s first truly effective and efficient surveillance state.

    Thus, when the CCP rounded up more than 1 million Uyghurs and other ethnic people in the Xinjiang region and sent them to internment camps, there were no protests. Nor were there criticisms of Hong Kong police atrocities against that city’s peaceful protesters this year. Perniciously, this absence of protest is interpreted as support for the Xi Jinping government. In reality, the absence of protest is not because China’s civil society is indifferent, but because the CCP has put in place a most sophisticated surveillance system, creating a true Orwellian state that has erased all space for civil society organizations or, in fact, any dissenting voice.
    ================================================== ===========
    Winston Smith in the Orwellian novel 1984
    is an example of where we're all going to wind up as a result of our wars on terrorism & drugs: constant surveillance & resulting control. The CIA & NSA have long been hard at work with facial recognition technology in major cities, photographing license plates on cars at critical traffic points, monitoring cell phone & land line traffic. You can't fight it & you can't stop it but it's already almost here. Look at what China has become. We have a good model to follow.
    Last edited by JacksinPA; 12-22-19 at 02:34 PM.
    'Make America great' - Benito Mussolini, Fascist Dictator, 1927 newsreel clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5l_r8MG5II

  2. #2
    Sensational
    joko104's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Paradise
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    46,277
    Blog Entries
    3

    Re: 'People's war of surveillance' ensures China will never be free

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    'People's war of surveillance' ensures China will never be free | TheHill

    Advocates of accommodation with China often argue that compromise will aid democracy within China. Even if that were true, a democracy movement needs a supportive civil society. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) unfortunately has killed civil society through its creation of the world’s first truly effective and efficient surveillance state.

    Thus, when the CCP rounded up more than 1 million Uyghurs and other ethnic people in the Xinjiang region and sent them to internment camps, there were no protests. Nor were there criticisms of Hong Kong police atrocities against that city’s peaceful protesters this year. Perniciously, this absence of protest is interpreted as support for the Xi Jinping government. In reality, the absence of protest is not because China’s civil society is indifferent, but because the CCP has put in place a most sophisticated surveillance system, creating a true Orwellian state that has erased all space for civil society organizations or, in fact, any dissenting voice.
    ================================================== ===========
    Winston Smith in the Orwellian novel 1984
    is an example of where we're all going to wind up as a result of our wars on terrorism & drugs: constant surveillance & resulting control. The CIA & NSA have long been hard at work with facial recognition technology in major cities, photographing license plates on cars at critical traffic points, monitoring cell phone & land line traffic. You can't fight it & you can't stop it but it's already almost here. Look at what China has become. We have a good model to follow.
    How dare you question the American intelligence community! Obviously, anyone who questions anything they do or want is a Russia agent working for Putin. You just ask the Democratic Party. Anyone who questions anything the intelligence community does - any surveillance they do, any wars they want - is a traitor and Russian agent.

  3. #3
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:02 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    4,142

    Re: 'People's war of surveillance' ensures China will never be free

    In Beijing, there is a motto written on the entrance to where the Red leaders live.

    Of course, it is in Chinese. Its English translation is: To Serve the People.

    Tears literally well up whenever I happen to see a photograph of that entrance on the Web or TV. (Sorry, this computer ignoramus could not post such a photograph to save my life.)


    I have read (and believe) that the Reds really did a good job for the first ten years after they seized power. For the first time in China's history, there was peace throughout that vast country, everyone had a job (no matter how humble), everyone finally had enough food to eat, there was at least a basic education for the children, and there was even basic medical care. Many of the Red officials really, really, really were idealists who wanted to "serve the people."

    So it heartbreaking to see the Communist party leaders become tyrants, whose only goal is to stay in power. And their treatment of the people in Xinjiang is sickening and disgusting. Even worse is that the so-called West will not take strong action because it does not want to antagonize an economic power like China.

  4. #4
    Social Democrat
    Chomsky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Third Coast
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    38,793

    Re: 'People's war of surveillance' ensures China will never be free

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    'People's war of surveillance' ensures China will never be free | TheHill

    Advocates of accommodation with China often argue that compromise will aid democracy within China. Even if that were true, a democracy movement needs a supportive civil society. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) unfortunately has killed civil society through its creation of the world’s first truly effective and efficient surveillance state.

    Thus, when the CCP rounded up more than 1 million Uyghurs and other ethnic people in the Xinjiang region and sent them to internment camps, there were no protests. Nor were there criticisms of Hong Kong police atrocities against that city’s peaceful protesters this year. Perniciously, this absence of protest is interpreted as support for the Xi Jinping government. In reality, the absence of protest is not because China’s civil society is indifferent, but because the CCP has put in place a most sophisticated surveillance system, creating a true Orwellian state that has erased all space for civil society organizations or, in fact, any dissenting voice.
    ================================================== ===========
    Winston Smith in the Orwellian novel 1984
    is an example of where we're all going to wind up as a result of our wars on terrorism & drugs: constant surveillance & resulting control. The CIA & NSA have long been hard at work with facial recognition technology in major cities, photographing license plates on cars at critical traffic points, monitoring cell phone & land line traffic. You can't fight it & you can't stop it but it's already almost here. Look at what China has become. We have a good model to follow.
    I've been looking for a reason to post that below, and this seems as good a place as any - if you don't mind?

    (CNN) 'World first' cell phone detection cameras rolled out in Australia
    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

    The 10 Commandments of Logic - (Courtesy of Abbazorkzog Blog)

  5. #5
    Sage
    JacksinPA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    10,385

    Re: 'People's war of surveillance' ensures China will never be free

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I've been looking for a reason to post that below, and this seems as good a place as any - if you don't mind?

    (CNN) 'World first' cell phone detection cameras rolled out in Australia
    This is fairly-low-tech stuff. Cell phones emit fairly strong radio signals on specified channels in certain bands. You don't need to be Marconi to detect these emissions within a certain distance & use them to trigger logging systems & cameras. Next step: good morning, judge!
    'Make America great' - Benito Mussolini, Fascist Dictator, 1927 newsreel clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5l_r8MG5II

  6. #6
    Sage
    JacksinPA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2017
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    10,385

    Re: 'People's war of surveillance' ensures China will never be free

    Communism with its centrally controlled societies always seems to lead to totalitarianism.
    'Make America great' - Benito Mussolini, Fascist Dictator, 1927 newsreel clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5l_r8MG5II

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •