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More than 35 countries defend China over mass detention of Uighur Muslims in UN letter

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More than 35 countries defend China over mass detention of Uighur Muslims in UN letter

State ambassadors praise Beijing's 'remarkable achievements in the field of human rights'

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More than a million Uighurs are being held in re-education camps in China's Xinjiang region.

7/13/19
More than 30 countries have signed a letter defending China's treatment of Uighur Muslims in the Xinjiang region in response to Western criticism. Ambassadors of 37 states from Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Latin America praised China’s “contribution to the international human rights cause” in the letter sent to the UN's Human Rights Council on Friday. The states, including prominent members of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, said China had faced terrorism, separatism and religious extremism in Xinjiang. But the signatories said China had restored peace and security in the region through counterterrorism measures and vocational training. “We note with appreciation that human rights are respected and protected in China in the process of counterterrorism and de-radicalisation,” the letter read.

The letter was a riposte to the action taken by 22 mainly European countries at the start of the week. They had urged China to halt the arbitrary detention of Xinjiang’s ethnic Uighurs and other minority groups, which academics and human rights groups estimate have swept around one million people into forced re-education. China did not sign the letter submitted on Friday, but the text closely echoed the language of statements delivered by Chinese diplomats to the council on Thursday and Friday. The letter from the 37 countries lauded China’s “remarkable achievements in the field of human rights” and particularly its contribution to “protecting and promoting human rights through development”. Signers of the pro-China letter, including Russia, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela, also took the opportunity to repeat a position frequently expressed in the UN's Human Rights Council opposing the “naming and shaming and publicly exerting pressure on other countries” by calling them to account for human rights violations.
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I would posit that the majority of signatory nations are also chronic violators of human rights and have 'skin in the game' much like China.

Related: Saudi Arabia, Russia express support for China's treatment of Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang
 
And... the debate is over.

The UN has become an epically worthless organization filled to the brim with squabbling delegates from dubious nations all doing whatever the hell they want to anyway. The US and some of those EU nations included.

End the UN, call it what it is... an experiment that failed in a haze of political stupidity and uselessness.
 
Most of the countries defending China either have vested economic interests/reliance on China or are diplomatic allies with similar human rights violations. The UN, when it comes to actually advancing human rights, has become a joke. China is absolutely in the wrong with their detention of the Uighur people in what are basically concentration camps for political reeducation and cultural genocide and the international community should impose sanctions over this. We have learned nothing from the days of the Nazi's where the world empowered their rise and was too late to nip them in the bud before a major conflict resulted. China's feet must be held to the fire.
 
What exactly does "re-education" means for them? And are they being treated well?
 
AProudLefty said:
What exactly does "re-education" means for them? And are they being treated well?
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They are being worked like slaves and are subject to torture to break their Muslim identity.

The Uighur people are an Ethnic minority mostly in the western Chinese province of Xinjiang. They are nearly all Muslims similar to Turkish people. The Communist Party sees their adherence to Islam and cultural difference from the ethnic majority Han Chinese as a threat to the authority of the Communist Party in Xinjiang and incompatible with the party's ideology. People are being detained involuntarily and placed in camps to try and break off their culture, re-train them politically, and torture them until they break/die under the guise of being "vocational training centers" or "combating Islamic terrorism." China had originally denied the camps existed, and once proof came out that they do they want to release propaganda stating their are voluntary vocational training centers when that is far from the truth.

Here are some resources:

Scary Stat: China Holding Over 1 Million Uighurs in Internment Camps | The National Interest

China’s brutal crackdown on the Uighur Muslim minority, explained - Vox

Researcher challenges China’s claims that Xinjiang camps are schools - Inkstone

China Muslims: Xinjiang schools used to separate children from families - BBC News

Chinese concentration camps: US must stop cultural genocide of Uighurs
 
digsbe said:
They are being worked like slaves and are subject to torture to break their Muslim identity.

The Uighur people are an Ethnic minority mostly in the western Chinese province of Xinjiang. They are nearly all Muslims similar to Turkish people. The Communist Party sees their adherence to Islam and cultural difference from the ethnic majority Han Chinese as a threat to the authority of the Communist Party in Xinjiang and incompatible with the party's ideology. People are being detained involuntarily and placed in camps to try and break off their culture, re-train them politically, and torture them until they break/die under the guise of being "vocational training centers" or "combating Islamic terrorism." China had originally denied the camps existed, and once proof came out that they do they want to release propaganda stating their are voluntary vocational training centers when that is far from the truth.

Here are some resources:

Scary Stat: China Holding Over 1 Million Uighurs in Internment Camps | The National Interest

China’s brutal crackdown on the Uighur Muslim minority, explained - Vox

Researcher challenges China’s claims that Xinjiang camps are schools - Inkstone

China Muslims: Xinjiang schools used to separate children from families - BBC News

Chinese concentration camps: US must stop cultural genocide of Uighurs
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They're the real concentration camps. :shock:
 
AProudLefty said:
They're the real concentration camps. :shock:
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They really are an example of modern day concentration camps. And what is even more sad is most of the world, even those acknowledging the humanitarian crisis, are unwilling to truly confront China on this because they fear economic retribution with China being the world's 2nd largest economy. The Chinese Communist Party fights very dirty, if a nation imposed sanctions on China over the concentration camps based on human rights violations they will in turn retaliate with things such as arbitrarily detaining citizens from said countries (like what they are presently doing to Canadians due to the arrest of Meng Wanzhou for fraud charges), sentencing them to death for trumped up charges (the judicial system in China is purely political, there is no fair trial), their companies operating in China may be threatened/attacked and the Chinese may even go so far as to exert military pressure if it is a neighboring country.

China's growing threat to human rights and global order should be a bi-partisan wake up call to Americans and to the world. We must confront China now on their increasingly militarization of disputed lands (south China sea, Taiwan, etc) and the human rights abuses within their borders with the Uighur concentration camps and numerous other human rights abuses like human organ harvesting, crackdown on religious practices, and many others. I fear the world has learned nothing from our dealings with Nazi Germany prior to World War 2 and has chosen economic interests for fear of retribution from China over confronting them on human rights. Once China thinks it has the upper hand I have no doubt they will start military conflicts to forcibly take over the South China Sea, annex Taiwan, and bully their neighbors and the world. It's a modern day Orwellian authoritarian monster that the world wants to ignore.
 
This is a frustrating question I'd rather not have to ask, but since every article about this story reads like a Pentagon brief, does anyone know where a complete list of the signers can be found? Every story online mentions 'Russia, Saudi Arabia'... But there were 37 countries which signed the letter.
 
digsbe said:
They really are an example of modern day concentration camps. And what is even more sad is most of the world, even those acknowledging the humanitarian crisis, are unwilling to truly confront China on this because they fear economic retribution with China being the world's 2nd largest economy. The Chinese Communist Party fights very dirty, if a nation imposed sanctions on China over the concentration camps based on human rights violations they will in turn retaliate with things such as arbitrarily detaining citizens from said countries (like what they are presently doing to Canadians due to the arrest of Meng Wanzhou for fraud charges), sentencing them to death for trumped up charges (the judicial system in China is purely political, there is no fair trial), their companies operating in China may be threatened/attacked and the Chinese may even go so far as to exert military pressure if it is a neighboring country.

China's growing threat to human rights and global order should be a bi-partisan wake up call to Americans and to the world. We must confront China now on their increasingly militarization of disputed lands (south China sea, Taiwan, etc) and the human rights abuses within their borders with the Uighur concentration camps and numerous other human rights abuses like human organ harvesting, crackdown on religious practices, and many others. I fear the world has learned nothing from our dealings with Nazi Germany prior to World War 2 and has chosen economic interests for fear of retribution from China over confronting them on human rights. Once China thinks it has the upper hand I have no doubt they will start military conflicts to forcibly take over the South China Sea, annex Taiwan, and bully their neighbors and the world. It's a modern day Orwellian authoritarian monster that the world wants to ignore.
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Excellent points.
 
digsbe said:
They really are an example of modern day concentration camps. And what is even more sad is most of the world, even those acknowledging the humanitarian crisis, are unwilling to truly confront China on this because they fear economic retribution with China being the world's 2nd largest economy.
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This reminds me of what is occurring in this country. The complicit Silence of the GOP. The only Republican with any courage today was Ohio governor John Kasich.
 
digsbe said:
They are being worked like slaves and are subject to torture to break their Muslim identity.

The Uighur people are an Ethnic minority mostly in the western Chinese province of Xinjiang. They are nearly all Muslims similar to Turkish people. The Communist Party sees their adherence to Islam and cultural difference from the ethnic majority Han Chinese as a threat to the authority of the Communist Party in Xinjiang and incompatible with the party's ideology. People are being detained involuntarily and placed in camps to try and break off their culture, re-train them politically, and torture them until they break/die under the guise of being "vocational training centers" or "combating Islamic terrorism." China had originally denied the camps existed, and once proof came out that they do they want to release propaganda stating their are voluntary vocational training centers when that is far from the truth.

Here are some resources:

Scary Stat: China Holding Over 1 Million Uighurs in Internment Camps | The National Interest

China’s brutal crackdown on the Uighur Muslim minority, explained - Vox

Researcher challenges China’s claims that Xinjiang camps are schools - Inkstone

China Muslims: Xinjiang schools used to separate children from families - BBC News

Chinese concentration camps: US must stop cultural genocide of Uighurs
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Muslim identity no

China has many other Muslim ethnic groups that are doing just fine. They are working to get rid of the radical Islamic identity which has been brought in from Afghanistan and has been promoted by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
 
Envoys from across the EU -- along with Australia, Canada and Japan and New Zealand -- had earlier co-signed a text denouncing China's conduct in Xinjiang, where one million people, mostly ethnic Uighurs, are reportedly being held in internment camps.

On Friday a diverse group of states -- including Russia, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Algeria and North Korea -- replied on Beijing's behalf.

"We commend China's remarkable achievements in the field of human rights," said the letter, also signed by Myanmar, the Philippines, Zimbabwe and others.
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It's business as usual at the U.N. since the Cold War era, which was divided along ideological lines between the Communist camp and the West. I think Russia would defend the worst human rights violations committed by North Korea, its former client state set up by Stalin.

 
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Hey, notice how every source comes from a western agenda. What happened to bibliographical objectivity? It also seems like every one of the sources has an existing anti-China rhetoric. Coincidence? I think not. What's even funnier is the people who band together and collectively criticize China also seem to be the ones with no experience or insight in the country. The people of Xinjiang's economic situation has literally never been better. The last 200 terrorist attacks from China has all been from a Uighur Muslim background. Maybe in the US terrorist attacks against civilians are acceptable, but China sees it differently. You're just a radlib that everyone's warned about on TV gobbling up all the info you can from extremely biased sources. All western media with the exception of RTNews serve corporate interests and have independent agendas, your point is so out of touch with reality it's scary.
 
Rogue Valley said:
More than 35 countries defend China over mass detention of Uighur Muslims in UN letter

State ambassadors praise Beijing's 'remarkable achievements in the field of human rights'

70903149.jpg

More than a million Uighurs are being held in re-education camps in China's Xinjiang region.



I would posit that the majority of signatory nations are also chronic violators of human rights and have 'skin in the game' much like China.

Related: Saudi Arabia, Russia express support for China's treatment of Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang
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Muscovy is a mongol empire , which ´d always go against humanity (a western value) . but KSA Saudi Arabia, thats why wahhabits are hated so much by all Muslims
 
AProudLefty said:
What exactly does "re-education" means for them? And are they being treated well?
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APL:

Re-education means internment into closed cities or prisons while being forced to assimilate into Chinese mainstream society by renouncing their cultures, their land claims, their religions and their history in order to become second-class Chinese citizens. Are they being well treated? No. They are being imprisoned and coerced for being who they are. Their crime is that they are Uighur or Turkomen and Muslims.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
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