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The Day America’s Denuclearization of North Korea Died

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The Day America’s Denuclearization of North Korea Died

The first Trump-Kim summit was about convincing Pyongyang to give up nuclear weapons. By the third meeting, it never even came up.

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7/3/19
His advisers will deny it, but when Donald Trump stepped into North Korea on Sunday, he effectively stepped away from his administration’s stated goal of fully eliminating Kim Jong Un’s nuclear weapons. There were many remarkable aspects of the U.S. president’s surprise meeting with the North Korean leader at the border, but perhaps the most notable was the absence of the issue that brought Trump and Kim together in the first place one year ago: Pyongyang’s development of a nuclear-weapons arsenal that directly threatens the United States and its allies, and which Trump’s advisers once vowed to remove by 2021. From the moment Trump greeted Kim with an extended hand (“My friend! … It’s my honor.”), to their first comments to reporters, to their remarks to the media while meeting one-on-one, the president never publicly mentioned North Korea’s nuclear program, and Kim didn’t bring it up either. Theatrics aside, the third Trump-Kim meeting was the product of deflated ambition. Trump and Kim initially agreed on something general, then disagreed on the specifics, and now were essentially agreeing to disagree. While the first summit, in Singapore, yielded a vague North Korean commitment in writing to “work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean peninsula,” and the second summit, in Vietnam, ended with no agreement when U.S. demands for denuclearization and North Korean demands for sanctions relief couldn’t be reconciled, the third appears to have featured little substantive discussion altogether.

The most significant result from the DMZ rendezvous was Trump and Kim blessing negotiations between lower-level officials, which more or less returns the process to where it was six months ago, before the Vietnam summit. “‘The United States has accepted North Korea as a nuclear-armed state.’ This is the headline,” the nuclear expert David Santoro noted in reference to the image of Trump and Kim standing beside each other at the inter-Korean border. “Look at the picture—really look at it—and tell me I’m wrong.” The president seems to be betting on, at worst, a drawn-out process in which Kim refrains from additional nuclear and missile tests, and at best, the North Korean leader makes major nuclear concessions as sanctions take their toll. Still, as the North Korea scholar Van Jackson has noted, that’s exactly the sort of outcome you would strive for if you’re tacitly recognizing North Korea as a nuclear power. U.S. officials came around to the idea that they had “no choice but to accept the Soviet Union as a new nuclear-weapons power and manage their relationship,” he said. When it dawns on either Trump or the next American president that neither engagement nor pressure will persuade Kim to relinquish his nukes, the U.S. government will reach a similar conclusion.

I agree. The denuclearization of North Korea is a US policy that will never come to fruition. That ship has sailed.

Trump is now substituting his warm and fuzzy faux relationship with Kim for a verifiable denuclearization program.
 
The Day America’s Denuclearization of North Korea Died

The first Trump-Kim summit was about convincing Pyongyang to give up nuclear weapons. By the third meeting, it never even came up.

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I agree. The denuclearization of North Korea is a US policy that will never come to fruition. That ship has sailed.

Trump is now substituting his warm and fuzzy faux relationship with Kim for a verifiable denuclearization program.

Hmmm...since when are either common citizens or the press privy to the confidential discussions/negotiations between heads of state? How often under past Administrations have we been presented with positive platitudes publicly, while real negotiations are held close to the vest unless and until something of substance can be announced?

Meanwhile we keep seeing terms like those used in the citation: "appear to have featured little substantive discussion altogether," and "seems to be betting on," while also quoting the opinion of some pundit which by his own admission is based solely on "look at the picture-really look at it-and tell me I'm wrong." Comments designed on little or no factual basis to "FRAME" things in the worst light possible.

The President is doing his job. Yet every time he meets with Kim, some people strive to frame it as an international disaster.

How's about we wait to see if anything actually does come of it or not. At the very least this President is TRYING to take a proactive stance...something we have not seen at any point in the last 70 years.
 
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The Day America’s Denuclearization of North Korea Died

The first Trump-Kim summit was about convincing Pyongyang to give up nuclear weapons. By the third meeting, it never even came up.

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I agree. The denuclearization of North Korea is a US policy that will never come to fruition. That ship has sailed.

Trump is now substituting his warm and fuzzy faux relationship with Kim for a verifiable denuclearization program.

i am certain iran is watching and is taking notes what happens once a nuclear weapons capability has become established
 
i am certain iran is watching and is taking notes what happens once a nuclear weapons capability has become established

No nukes for Iran, but they're okay now for Kim-land and the Wahabi Kingdom.
 
The President is doing his job. Yet every time he meets with Kim, some people strive to frame it as an international disaster.

Yeah, Trump's doing a swell job.

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The most significant result from the DMZ rendezvous was Trump and Kim blessing negotiations between lower-level officials, which more or less returns the process to where it was six months ago, before the Vietnam summit. “‘The United States has accepted North Korea as a nuclear-armed state.’ This is the headline,” the nuclear expert David Santoro noted in reference to the image of Trump and Kim standing beside each other at the inter-Korean border. “Look at the picture—really look at it—and tell me I’m wrong.”



North Korean state media said Kim Jong Un and President Donald Trump agreed at their historic DMZ meeting to push forward dialogue for the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula, lauding the meeting at the demilitarized zone dividing the two Koreas. There are speculations that Trump may have abandoned the complete denuclearization of North Korea, which may keep the nuclear reactor and an acceptable amount of fissile materials for civilian use. Hopefully, Trump will force North Korea into surrendering its nuclear arsenals in exchange for easing sanctions.
 
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The Day America’s Denuclearization of North Korea Died

The first Trump-Kim summit was about convincing Pyongyang to give up nuclear weapons. By the third meeting, it never even came up.

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I agree. The denuclearization of North Korea is a US policy that will never come to fruition. That ship has sailed.

Trump is now substituting his warm and fuzzy faux relationship with Kim for a verifiable denuclearization program.

THe only way to denuclearize the North is through invasion and thats not going to happen. So we might as well set new terms for sanctions relief and stop chasing the horse that has already left the barn.
 
i am certain iran is watching and is taking notes what happens once a nuclear weapons capability has become established

No, they figured that out decades ago, just like everybody else did. Well, maybe with the exception of you
 
THe only way to denuclearize the North is through invasion and thats not going to happen. So we might as well set new terms for sanctions relief and stop chasing the horse that has already left the barn.

trying to recall you posting that same advice when Obama was president and trying to figure out a solution to the north korean problem
 
trying to recall you posting that same advice when Obama was president and trying to figure out a solution to the north korean problem

I dont recall this being a big topic during the Obama years. Obama simply kept in lace the same policy that the US has had since the 50's. I think Trump is right to talk to Kim, but is foolish to believe there is even the slightest chance that Kim will give up his nukes. Its not gonna happen.
 
The second summit broke down because Mike Pompeo wanted North Korea to put its current arsenal, which consists of several dozen warheads, some mounted on missiles, on the negotiating table as well. I think Trump should let North Korea keep its nuclear enrichment sites as long as it gives up its nuclear weapons arsenal. In exchange, Yongbyon and some other sites should be regularly inspected by U.N. officials, thus partially dismantling nuclear activities at the Yongbyon nuclear center. When South Africa dismantled the bombs, it took apart key nuclear facilities, and later, subjected the process to rigorous international oversight. This South Africa model is ideal for North Korea.
 
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The second summit broke down because Mike Pompeo wanted North Korea to put its current arsenal, which consists of several dozen warheads, some mounted on missiles, on the negotiating table as well. I think Trump should keep North Korea its nuclear enrichment sites as long as it gives up its nuclear weapons arsenal. In exchange, these nuclear sites such as Yongbyon in North Korea should be regularly inspected by U.N. officials.

why should NK give up its capacity to produce (and use) nuclear arms?
 
THe only way to denuclearize the North is through invasion and thats not going to happen. So we might as well set new terms for sanctions relief and stop chasing the horse that has already left the barn.

A year later and there no White House mention whatsoever of Trumps ballyhooed denuclearization "contract" with Kim Jong Un.

All we have today is a photo-op of Trump prancing around in North Korea, shaking hands with the psychopath that had Otto Warmbier murdered.

Trump Confident N. Korea Will Honor 'Contract' to Denuclearize

7/9/18
Trump said on Twitter Monday: “I have confidence that Kim Jong Un will honor the contract we signed &, even more importantly, our handshake.” Speaking Thursday aboard Air Force One on a trip to Montana, President Trump said he still believes Kim will follow through on his promise to denuclearize and that he forged a personal connection with the leader at their Singapore summit last month. "I think we understand each other. I really believe that he sees a different future for North Korea," Trump told reporters. "I hope that's true. If it's not true, then we go back to the other way, but I don't think that's going to be necessary.'' Trump's national security adviser, John Bolton, says North Korea could dismantle its nuclear arsenal within a year, but other U.S. officials have said they hope it can be accomplished by the end of Trump's first term in the White House, in January 2021.

Pie in the sky White House propaganda. Trump has been played like a second-hand fiddle.

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U.S. President Donald Trump holds up the denuclearization document that he and North Korea leader Kim Jong Un had signed at the Capella resort on
Sentosa Island, June 12, 2018, in Singapore.
 
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