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China BOASTS its military STRENGTH as it threatens World War 3 over Taiwan

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https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...y-strength-taiwan-world-war-3-military-drills

CHINA has conducted a number of military drills near Taiwan to intimidate the nation as part of increasing military shows of strength by Beijing in the region, it has been revealed.
By DAN FALVEY

China has conducted fresh military drills over Taiwan.

The drills are thought to have taken place above the Bashi Channel, the stretch of water which separates Taiwan from the neighbouring Philippines.
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Another global hot spot that could start WWIII.
 
No, China will not start WWIII. Just... no.

People need to stop drumming up fear of global war every time there is a military incident.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...y-strength-taiwan-world-war-3-military-drills

CHINA has conducted a number of military drills near Taiwan to intimidate the nation as part of increasing military shows of strength by Beijing in the region, it has been revealed.
By DAN FALVEY

China has conducted fresh military drills over Taiwan.

The drills are thought to have taken place above the Bashi Channel, the stretch of water which separates Taiwan from the neighbouring Philippines.
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Another global hot spot that could start WWIII.
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Taiwan is not a nation, it is another of the many US abominations.
 
Northern Light said:
No, China will not start WWIII. Just... no.

People need to stop drumming up fear of global war every time there is a military incident.
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It will be quite easy for WWIII to start when one considers just how many people and countries hate the evil of the USA. Just one mistake and missiles will be flying and it won't really matter where they hit.
 
camlok said:
It will be quite easy for WWIII to start when one considers just how many people and countries hate the evil of the USA. Just one mistake and missiles will be flying and it won't really matter where they hit.
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Considering the multiple decades we spent at the edge of the button with Soviet Russia, I find that unlikely.

Hell, we've even seen nuclear nations actually go to war directly with each other - India and Pakistan spilled blood in 1999 over border disputes without even one nuke going off, and those guys have hated each other longer than they've been countries.
 
Jesse Booth said:
Considering the multiple decades we spent at the edge of the button with Soviet Russia, I find that unlikely.

Hell, we've even seen nuclear nations actually go to war directly with each other - India and Pakistan spilled blood in 1999 over border disputes without even one nuke going off, and those guys have hated each other longer than they've been countries.
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True dat, Jesse but if things really come to a head, and I don't think it will take much, as much will be gained by firing multiple nuclear weapons at any one and anywhere because the world will come to an end as we know it. As Russia has said, "If there is no Russia there will be no world".

The US cannot keep pushing Russia, the US cannot keep trying to strangle its economic desires, just as it cannot continue to strangle other countries economic desires.
 
camlok said:
True dat, Jesse but if things really come to a head, and I don't think it will take much, as much will be gained by firing multiple nuclear weapons at any one and anywhere because the world will come to an end as we know it. As Russia has said, "If there is no Russia there will be no world".

The US cannot keep pushing Russia, the US cannot keep trying to strangle its economic desires, just as it cannot continue to strangle other countries economic desires.
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If we can't keep sanctioning Russia, then they can't keep making dictatorial shows of force along their borders and annexing parts of other countries.

But of course, the realities of international politics are every bit as savage as they've been since the dawn of civilization, and neither side is going to stop waving their dicks and guns around. The only new part of this equation is the nuclear option, and these particular nations have already proven that they can fight proxy wars without activating their nuclear arsenals.
 
Jesse Booth said:
If we can't keep sanctioning Russia, then they can't keep making dictatorial shows of force along their borders and annexing parts of other countries.
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Jesse, really, think about it. How many military bases does Russia have in other countries. I think it is two. How many MBs does the USA have in other countries?

You are likely referring to Ukraine. The US spent $5 billion to overthrow the government of Ukraine. If Russia had been involved in that, Russia would be in Kiev, in control.

Why was it Victoria Nuland, you must remember that US neocon little bitch who was quietly fired, that was walking down the streets of Kiev with the neo nazis?
 
camlok said:
Jesse, really, think about it. How many military bases does Russia have in other countries. I think it is two. How many MBs does the USA have in other countries?

You are likely referring to Ukraine. The US spent $5 billion to overthrow the government of Ukraine. If Russia had been involved in that, Russia would be in Kiev, in control.

Why was it Victoria Nuland, you must remember that US neocon little bitch who was quietly fired, that was walking down the streets of Kiev with the neo nazis?
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The Soviet Union always relied more on proxy militaries than we did, but their military-industrial complex was no slouch. Even today, when Russia's economy is smaller than Tokyo's, they are still our primary competition for international arms dealing.

I have no idea who Nuland is, but her support for the Nazis sounds far less consequential than Stalin's was.
 
Jesse Booth said:
The Soviet Union always relied more on proxy militaries than we did,
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Just Indonesia, under US supported and funded death squads, one million were slaughtered. Then it was on to East Timor where another quarter million were slaughtered.

Have you ever heard of Reagan's Contras?

Systematically, the contras have been assassinating religious workers, teachers, health workers, elected officials, government administrators. You remember the assassination manual? that surfaced in 1984. It caused such a stir that President Reagan had to address it himself in the presidential debates with Walter Mondale. They use terror. This is a technique that they're using to traumatize the society so that it can't function.

I don't mean to abuse you with verbal violence, but you have to understand what your government and its agents are doing. They go into villages, they haul out families. With the children forced to watch they castrate the father, they peel the skin off his face, they put a grenade in his mouth and pull the pin. With the children forced to watch they gang-rape the mother, and slash her breasts off. And sometimes for variety, they make the parents watch while they do these things to the children.

Stockwell CIA 1987 part II
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but their military-industrial complex was no slouch. Even today, when Russia's economy is smaller than Tokyo's, they are still our primary competition for international arms dealing.
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Not even close, Jesse. Not remotely close.

"By their calculation, the United States spends more than the next seven countries combined."

I have no idea who Nuland is, but her support for the Nazis sounds far less consequential than Stalin's was.
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That is telling but not surprising. Americans are woefully ignorant of the machinations of their war criminal/terrorist governments.

but her support for the Nazis sounds far less consequential than Stalin's was.
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Whoa!!!! See what I mean. Americans are woefully ignorant of history.

Stalin defeated the Nazis. Russia and Stalin hated the Nazis because they invaded Russia and killed some 20 million Russians. How many US civilians did the Nazis kill?

The USA had a love affair with Nazi Germany. Many top US business people admired Hitler and Nazism. Many Nazis were entertained in the USA, Hitler loved how the USA had performed its genocide on Native Americans.
 
Neither WWI nor WWII were truly nuclear wars* (or their equivalent, given the technology in place at the time) and neither were started intentionally by any power at the time to be global conflicts. So it does not follow that a World War III would necessarily be or escalate to a general thermonuclear exchange nor that any present-day state or force would intentionally start such a globe-spanning war. World Wars and earlier wide-ranging wars have traditionally started locally and have then eventually widened as a result of cascades of events which later engulf more and more states in armed conflict and side-choosing. A limited war in Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Africa or Asia could quickly snowball into a much wider conventional war and might or might not get to the point of total war or worse nuclear war. That is the danger of war. It starts small but feeds itself and spreads like grass-fires when the political and diplomatic tinder is dry. It then spreads where and when you least expect it to and for reasons which in retrospect seem hardly feasible or war-worthy when viewed from the calmer and more informed perspective of the post-war survivors.

War, even local war is dangerous because it is predictable in its unpredictability and its capacity to spread.

The danger of escalation in a potential China-Taiwan war situation comes more from the possible actions or inactions of what non-Chinese states may do in the event of a military conflict between the two already warring Chinese powers. They will already be at each other's throats but foreign powers' choices will more likely escalate such a conflict to a regional or global level than the actions of the two initiating powers in the struggle and could thus widen the potential war considerably.

* Two 16-22 kilo-ton atomic bombs dropped, while horrible in their local effect, do not make a whole war a "nuclear war" since other sides could not respond in kind. So WWII was a conventional total war in which nuclear weapons were first used in anger at its close, but it was not a "nuclear war" fought with nuclear weapons by opposing sides.

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Evilroddy.
 
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camlok said:
Just Indonesia, under US supported and funded death squads, one million were slaughtered. Then it was on to East Timor where another quarter million were slaughtered.

Have you ever heard of Reagan's Contras?







Not even close, Jesse. Not remotely close.

"By their calculation, the United States spends more than the next seven countries combined."



That is telling but not surprising. Americans are woefully ignorant of the machinations of their war criminal/terrorist governments.



Whoa!!!! See what I mean. Americans are woefully ignorant of history.

Stalin defeated the Nazis. Russia and Stalin hated the Nazis because they invaded Russia and killed some 20 million Russians. How many US civilians did the Nazis kill?

The USA had a love affair with Nazi Germany. Many top US business people admired Hitler and Nazism. Many Nazis were entertained in the USA, Hitler loved how the USA had performed its genocide on Native Americans.
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Yes, I've heard of the Contras.

I wasn't referring to military spending overall when I said that, I meant selling firearms to other nations. Russia sells about 2/3 as much as we do every year.

I'm sorry that I haven't carefully combed through a long list of American bureacrats in search of criminals - my big obsession in history is the Weimar Republic, while yours seems to be American war crimes. There's going to be a considerable amount of information you have that I don't, and vise-versa.

Finally, you're forgetting about the first half of World War 2 when the Third Reich and Soviet Union were allies. The two didn't start fighting each other until they'd divided up the Slavs & killed millions of them.

Sorry about the bad formatting, I'm on mobile right now. I'm heading to bed now, but I can get back to you on this later.
 
Northern Light said:
No, China will not start WWIII. Just... no.

People need to stop drumming up fear of global war every time there is a military incident.
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It's a dictatorial regime - and those types of regimes are always "riding the tiger" and cannot afford to get off. They need an external conflict or adversary to stay in power - without it, they run the risk of being toppled domestically. In that kind of internal political setup, if you lose power, you lose everything.
 
sanman said:
It's a dictatorial regime - and those types of regimes are always "riding the tiger" and cannot afford to get off. They need an external conflict or adversary to stay in power - without it, they run the risk of being toppled domestically. In that kind of internal political setup, if you lose power, you lose everything.
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I understand what you're trying to say but it's an oversimplification. China has never acknowledged Taiwan as independent. It's considered a long lost province waiting to be reunited and they will never give up their historical claim to it. Hence the never ending saber rattling. There are incidents every year where China intimidates Taiwan, but they don't always make it into the international news.

I disagree that they need military conflict to stay in power. Historically China has not operated through miltiary conquest. At present, China's #1 hold over the world is economic, including over the USA. They don't need to fire a cannon when they can just dump about a trillion dollars in U.S. debt treasuries, not to mention withhold all our cheap consumer goods.
 
Northern Light said:
I understand what you're trying to say but it's an oversimplification. China has never acknowledged Taiwan as independent. It's considered a long lost province waiting to be reunited and they will never give up their historical claim to it. Hence the never ending saber rattling. There are incidents every year where China intimidates Taiwan, but they don't always make it into the international news.

I disagree that they need military conflict to stay in power. Historically China has not operated through miltiary conquest. At present, China's #1 hold over the world is economic, including over the USA. They don't need to fire a cannon when they can just dump about a trillion dollars in U.S. debt treasuries, not to mention withhold all our cheap consumer goods.
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The Chinese are resorting to an economic expansionism that's unsustainable. Cancer-style growth. They won't stop until they conquer the world, one way or another. The regime is able to exert control over a captive workforce which is unable to push back. The regime is then able to use its captive workforce, who have no political franchise, to exploit them to conquer other markets, like a serf army. That isn't free market economics, because a key component of their market - the workforce - aren't really free.

As for the claim against Taiwan, that's just part of their irredentism.
 
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