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New Pictures of Chinese Buildup in South China Sea

Your point about nomenclature is well-made. China also calls the Sea of Japan the East China Sea, another example of their naming of geographical features to connote their right to ownership of the feature itself. The dispute over the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands is likely going to be a similar flashpoint to the reefs we're discussing in this thread, but I believe that China is far more concerned about dealing with Japan's formidable Self-Defense Forces and their treaty allies in the US than they are with the relatively puny militaries of the nations bordering the South China Sea.
 
US really has no grounds to criticize them. They also had no grounds with Russia invading Crimea, no grounds in punishing Iran, when we routinely break international protocols, invade countries that didn't attack us, fund overthrowing of governments, provide funds and weapons to militants and rebels, and pretty much do whatever the hell we want.

It's completely hypocritical for the US to make demands of all these countries that we can't even follow
 
Your point about nomenclature is well-made. China also calls the Sea of Japan the East China Sea, another example of their naming of geographical features to connote their right to ownership of the feature itself. The dispute over the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands is likely going to be a similar flashpoint to the reefs we're discussing in this thread, but I believe that China is far more concerned about dealing with Japan's formidable Self-Defense Forces and their treaty allies in the US than they are with the relatively puny militaries of the nations bordering the South China Sea.


On your last points of the Japan Self-Defense Force and the armed forces of the Asean countries, CCP Boyz in Beijing have caused an arms buildup throughout the region. Asean countries know that singularly or as a whole they cannot match or equal the CCP armed forces so it's not an arms race, i.e., scrambling for parity. Rather the Asean nations are individually arming up to the point of critical mass, i.e., to make CCP military action against any of 'em too costly to Beijing to attempt seriously or to consider realistically.

Number one is among the Asean countries. Since 2008 when CCP began its bellicose maritime moves Asean countries have been ordering submarines by the pack. Vietnam bought six Russian Kilo Klass diesel subs armed with the Klub missile that can reach deep into the CCP-PRC. The PLA Navy South Fleet at Hainan island in the SCS is a quick lob for the Kilo Klubs. VN Kilo sub crews are trained in India by Indian Navy personnel who know the subs. Hanoi rebuilt the naval base at Camranh Bay to accommodate aircraft carrier groups, i.e., US, UK, France, India. In June the U.S. 3rd Fleet Vinson carrier strike force will be the first to dock there to include delivering more reserve equipment and supplies to include armaments. Hanoi continues purchasing from USA state of the art coastal defenses -- new radars, recon craft air and sea and shoreline missile batteries. Vietnamese have known the Chinese well for thousands of years so they're familiar with the drill but this time VN is upgraded significantly to include strategic partners USA, India, Australia, Japan.

Malaysia is bringing on six new navy frigates, six new corvettes, and six new medium patrol craft plus three new Damien-class 86-foot patrol craft; this is in addition to two Coast Guard cutters donated by Japan last year and which are fully operational. Kuala Lumpur has increased its maritime force tonnage by 61%. KL is now prepared to modernize its Air Force. Most Asean countries are doing naval and air buildups. Australia has committed $40 million for 11 new Barracuda French submarines being constructed in Oz. India has new and massive naval and air bases at the north end of the Malacca Strait and is building its third aircraft carrier.



In Japan it is entirely different. Japan Self-Defense Forces are modern, high tech, well equipped and trained; JSDF gets a higher quality of recruits, its commanders are steeped in naval history to include aircraft carriers and its officer corps is highly educated and trained. The Maritime Self-Defense Force (Navy) is formidable and coming out of the closet. U.S. Naval War College estimates that although the MSDF is smaller than the PLA Navy in number of ships and tonnage, PLA Navy would need a good day between 'em to call it a draw, never mind to score a victory. Japan is the only US allied government in Asia authorized and receiving the F-35 stealth attack fighter.



USN admirals don't speak in such terms without direct authorization of the Pentagon and its higher ups...



US admiral warns of risk of arms race in South China Sea


A senior American naval commander has implicitly accused China of creating "so-called military zones" close to artificial islands it has built in the South China Sea, declaring that such actions are eroding the security of one of the world's busiest waterways.

In a speech in Honolulu, Hawaii, on Monday, Admiral Scott H. Swift of the US Pacific Fleet said commercial ships that had previously sailed freely through international shipping lanes were being diverted from areas deemed to be too close to the artificial islands built by China in the Spratly archipelago.

Adm Swift, who visited China last month, said that routine commercial and military operations in the area had become subject to warnings, interrupting freedom of navigation, as well as air rights, to such an extent that the "unilateral assertiveness" was becoming a trend that was "unacceptable".


US admiral warns of risk of arms race in South China Sea, SE Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times
 
Excellent information, thanks. I agree that the buildup of regional military forces will make the Chinese think twice before engaging with any of these nations, but their militarization of the reefs in the South China Sea is still proceeding apace. I'm also concerned about possible India-China conflict in the Himalayas near Bhutan given the recent conflagrations involving border disputes in that area. Two nuclear-armed powers having border fights isn't something I want happening, anywhere in the world.

Altogether, I still think that our best bet for containing the Chinese and balancing power in the Asia-Pacific region is the revival of the Trans-Pacific Partnership with our involvement. I'm a big fan of using economic power as well as soft power influences to force the hand of other nations. We are economically the most powerful nation on earth (even if we aren't the largest economy) because of our markets, our financial system, and our currency, so we should not be afraid of using that power to bind other nations to ourselves or to coerce unfriendly nations to come to heel or reduce their negative activity.
 
Excellent information, thanks. I agree that the buildup of regional military forces will make the Chinese think twice before engaging with any of these nations, but their militarization of the reefs in the South China Sea is still proceeding apace. I'm also concerned about possible India-China conflict in the Himalayas near Bhutan given the recent conflagrations involving border disputes in that area. Two nuclear-armed powers having border fights isn't something I want happening, anywhere in the world.

Altogether, I still think that our best bet for containing the Chinese and balancing power in the Asia-Pacific region is the revival of the Trans-Pacific Partnership with our involvement. I'm a big fan of using economic power as well as soft power influences to force the hand of other nations. We are economically the most powerful nation on earth (even if we aren't the largest economy) because of our markets, our financial system, and our currency, so we should not be afraid of using that power to bind other nations to ourselves or to coerce unfriendly nations to come to heel or reduce their negative activity.


Trump is backtracking on TPP already -- at Davos Trump mumbled into his tie that he might be reconsidering TPP. Trump's getting severe heat from his own people in the WH to reactivate TPP. There's too much on the line not to have TPP after USA and the dozen nations along the Pacific Rum managed complex and domestically sensitive negotiations to realize it. TPP is vital to the economic, financial and national security of USA and allies, partners. We're not losing much or anything presently to CCP Dictator-Tyrants in Beijing due to their grandiose silk road and beltway to Europe being stillborn, yet TPP strengthens significantly everyone over on this side of the contest. When you've got a winning hand you don't fold it the way Trump did, and Trump anyway will have to accept TPP whether he understands and comprehends it or not.

As for the CCP road project at Bhutan in the Himalayas India was decisive in repelling that probe so Beijing won't be back for a while if ever. Beijing was moving to try to sever the northeast states from India which is bold for the Boyz to try to do and it cost 'em so they backed off. The pro-American Prime Minister Narendra Modi moved three army groups including heavy artillery to the border states -- end of. As for CCP Dictator-Tyrants in the SCS they won't do anything they can't defend militarily or succeed doing which is everything. Beijing still hasn't followed through on its statement in 2014 to declare a unilateral Air Defense Identification Zone and it won't -- unless they're certain they can pull it off. They can't. The artificial islands aren't going to be useful without air cover which isn't coming.
 
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