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New Pictures of Chinese Buildup in South China Sea

The post is glib and pedestrian to say there is propaganda on each side -- then to rant on against USA "propaganda" only and in a full throat. Mention of China is omitted from your post btw. You could at the least show some respect of the thread and topic. Rather, you jump from thread to topic ranting the same bent while banging on your one same drum. You seem not competent to discuss anything outside your small bore range of big bore rantings.

What is there to comment on about China? It is doing as it wishes just as the US does/has been doing as it wishes for well over a century. China isn't invading a sovereign nation like the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. China is murdering Iraqis or planning genocides to murder Iraqis. China isn't murdering Syrians, Libyans, or Afghans.

China didn't blow up some towers at home and blame it on others it wanted to invade.

Really, there is no comparison. But the US propaganda is always steaming ahead, pointing fingers at others for evils it leads the world in.
 
What is there to comment on about China? It is doing as it wishes just as the US does/has been doing as it wishes for well over a century. China isn't invading a sovereign nation like the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. China is murdering Iraqis or planning genocides to murder Iraqis. China isn't murdering Syrians, Libyans, or Afghans.

China didn't blow up some towers at home and blame it on others it wanted to invade.

Really, there is no comparison. But the US propaganda is always steaming ahead, pointing fingers at others for evils it leads the world in.


By the end of your second line you had me doing some good chuckling I must say. Because USA remains your bent and unrelenting focus I'd like to enjoy what you have to say about the CCP Dictator-Tryants in the South China Sea. Further and if it might not be too much, how the ten Asean nations know Chinese bullying and the overbearing China they've had to live under for thousand of years and that they know they must resist, so Asean nations ask the USA and its partners in the region to help 'em resist, and how it's going -- thx in advance. I do look forward to your reply yes I do.
 
Eh, I'm far more worried about Turkey encroaching on its Middle-Eastern and Mediterranean neighbors than I am China's island-building out in the sea at the moment. At least North Korea decided to calm the **** down since the South Korean president is one of the few voices of sanity in today's generation of world leaders...
 
Youse pick on only the one while youse always try to give the other a free ride.

Youse always present matters in black and white -- good guy bad guy with USA as the perpetual bad guy. The fact needs pointing out and youse posts need to be both balanced and countered.

Only one side for instance is guilty of propaganda and that is USA. Wrong again and transparently wrong -- one sided shoulder to shoulder wrong with Beijing as always. If the Boyz in Beijing hate me they luv youse. Unconditionally.

If there was a chinese person here or even an american touting the benefits of chinese economics i would be among the first to point out the many flaws of a dictatorship. Just as i do with america. I don't discriminate, i loath all super powers for their interference.

Why would i bring up chinese propaganda? besides theirs is far more subtle than the loud mouth bragging of america. Unlike america making noise with its gunship diplomacy they prefer the quieter bribe diplomacy, money speaks.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/24/beijing-highway-600m-road-just-the-start-of-chinas-investments-in-caribbean
 
how the ten Asean nations know Chinese bullying and the overbearing China they've had to live under for thousand of years and that they know they must resist, so Asean nations ask the USA and its partners in the region to help 'em resist, and how it's going -- thx in advance. I do look forward to your reply yes I do.

Many SE Asian nations got help from China and Russia to help them throw out the invading hordes of Americans. The US has invaded China a number of times. How many times has China invaded the US?
 
Both China and Russia are playing a dangerous game trying to attain resources that aren't their's. Hopefully it can be reasonably stopped, but I only see it continuing and getting worse.
 
Our navy does the talking for us; they maintain the sea lanes.

LOL So a nuclear war with China is your solution? We cannot settle this or any other conflict militarily, we will destroy ourselves. Trump's plan is to withdraw from the world and you need to get on board with your leader. He intends to leave the rest of the world to Putin and China because he is too simple minded to understand diplomacy.
 
LOL So a nuclear war with China is your solution? We cannot settle this or any other conflict militarily, we will destroy ourselves. Trump's plan is to withdraw from the world and you need to get on board with your leader. He intends to leave the rest of the world to Putin and China because he is too simple minded to understand diplomacy.

You clearly know nothing about how our Navy works.
 
You clearly know nothing about how our Navy works.

And you have no clue about the nuclear deterrent. Our navy is useless against it . We gave up on the Pacific when we withdrew from TPP. It was a clear signal of withdrawal and you should know that. China will dominate in the Pacific because they will negotiate with members of TPP. We have lost much of our leverage and we need China more than they need us. It is all part of the weakening of the USA that Trump and Putin have agreed on as payment for his election.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/23/opinions/killing-ttp-great-for-china-bergstrand-opinion/index.html
 
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Things are just incubating for a catastrophic WWIII
 
Seems like people don't want this to happen because they themselves are scared of a big China, not because they actually care about neighboring countries of China.
 
Seems like people don't want this to happen because they themselves are scared of a big China, not because they actually care about neighboring countries of China.


U.S. has formal treaties both military and economic with neighbors of China. Some of the treaties or the relationships go back to before WW II or WW I. Treaties of Amity and treaties of mutual defense.

In recent decades formal agreements of mutual partnership have been developed and signed to include among others Vietnam and India whose prime minister Narendra Modi and his BJP party are strongly pro-American.

These are mutual.

In economic power the USA can and will recover from Trump's withdrawal from the TPP. The member countries have agreed to continue in the treaty without USA, looking ahead to a different USA in respect of the TPP. Trump at Davos mumbled into his tie that he's being encouraged to reconsider the TPP withdrawal. UC Davis Prof. Peter Navarone who is head of the new council on trade is pro TPP and considers Beijing's military force a menace to the region which is an attitude almost all leaders of the region welcome strongly.

Xi Jinpingpong's grandiose new silk road to Europe via three land routes and one maritime route remains on the drawing board for obvious historical reasons well known from Beijing to Europe and everywhere in between. That is, nobody wants Chinese plowing through their lands building roads and political-economic infrastructure and setting up in the many countries targeted by CCP Boyz, to include their capitals. The trillions of dollars yellow brick road fantasy project of the 21st century Chinese and their forever magic kingdom is stillborn which is no surprise given every Chinese dynasty has failed. Since 1949 the CCP Boyz in Beijing are the new, young and very nervous dynasty of emperors in business suits who have raised the long history of China corruption to unimaginable dimensions. Good government groups in the West have figured already that since year 2000 the CCP Boyz in Beijing have swiped $5 Trillion from the pockets and accounts of ordinary Chinese. China capital meanwhile continues to bail to the West to include families and their children.

As to the CCP military, PLA is not a state armed force. Beijing's military belongs to the Party. From colonel on up one must be a member of the Party, its bureaucracy and its loyalty. Each company in the PLA, the PLA Navy and the PLA Air Force has two commanders: one military officer and one political officer. The political officer has the supremacy over the military officer. The only lesson CCP Boyz took from the collapse of the USSR is not to allow any kind of political opening throughout the country. The consequence is that CCP Boyz have buried the society in a police state kleptocracy and bureaucracy and that everyone is conditioned to accept Xi Jinpingpong as leader-emperor through the next decade.

The bottom line is that China can't ever get it right. Not 5000 years ago, not in the present, not in between and not going forward. The strategic approach of the USA toward China is the same presently as it has been since the Tiananmen Square Massacre in 1989 -- be patient. Stay calm.
 
Many SE Asian nations got help from China and Russia to help them throw out the invading hordes of Americans. The US has invaded China a number of times. How many times has China invaded the US?



I see inspector Clouseau spinning the globe then spinning down flat on the floor alongside it.

A USA passport is golden in China and throughout SE Asia. UK and Australia too for that matter. You ought to try it. It broadens the experience as they say.
 
A USA passport is golden in China and throughout SE Asia. UK and Australia too for that matter. You ought to try it. It broadens the experience as they say.

It's always a good idea to stay in tight with the biggest gangsters in the hood.
 
It's always a good idea to stay in tight with the biggest gangsters in the hood.


Yet it's futile to try to talk a hitman out of his career or vocation. So may I suggest a violin case avatar.

Any of 'em made in China are cheap of course. Screechy too which should be perfect if not close to it.

Meanwhile in the real world...


Duterte warns he'll order navy to fire if sea wealth taken


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A protester, wearing boat-shaped paper hat, holds a flag during a rally at the Chinese Consulate to protest China's alleged continued militarization of the disputed islands in the South China Sea known as Spratlys Saturday, Feb. 10, 2018 in the financial district of Makati city east of Manila, Philippines. The protesters also denounced President Rodrigo Duterte's inaction over China's continued build up of military facilities and structures at the disputed islands. (AP Photo/Bullit Marquez)



President Rodrigo Duterte told a news conference late Friday that the Philippines will continue talks with China over disputed South China Sea territories. He also stressed the Philippines' sovereign rights over Benham Rise, a vast offshore frontier off his country's northeast.

Philippine security officials raised concerns about intrusions when a Chinese ship was monitored crisscrossing the waters, drawing public attention to the territory. "If you can claim a whole of an ocean, do not mess up with me with my economic zone here," Duterte said, apparently referring to China.

"But if you get something there from the economic zone, I will order the navy to fire."

Duterte was referring to the country's 200-nautical mile exclusive economic zone, a stretch of sea where coastal states have been granted exclusive rights to exploit natural resources under a 1982 U.N. treaty. Foreign ships, however, could pass through those waters but could not fish or extract oil and gas from the under the seabed.

Duterte recently ordered an end to all foreign scientific research missions in Benham, which his government has renamed Philippine Rise, and asked the navy and air force to patrol the waters. Some believe the waters could be harboring undersea gas and oil deposits aside from its rich fishing grounds.

"I'm putting notice to the world that the Philippine Rise, which we call Benham Rise, is ours ... and the economic zone is ours," Duterte said.


Duterte warns he'll order navy to fire if sea wealth taken - ABC News


Public sentiment in the Phils is hugely against CCP Boyz in Beijing and strongly positive toward USA which is a Phils mutual defense formal treaty ally. Duterte's feet are to the fire in this one. The ten member Asean countries continue to stand up and together against Beijing's bullying, grabs and militarization of the SCS.
 
And you have no clue about the nuclear deterrent. Our navy is useless against it . We gave up on the Pacific when we withdrew from TPP. It was a clear signal of withdrawal and you should know that. China will dominate in the Pacific because they will negotiate with members of TPP. We have lost much of our leverage and we need China more than they need us. It is all part of the weakening of the USA that Trump and Putin have agreed on as payment for his election.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/23/opinions/killing-ttp-great-for-china-bergstrand-opinion/index.html

Please show me this agreement.
 
Duterte warns he'll order navy to fire if sea wealth taken

He should just ask the US to give back all the wealth it has stolen from the Philippines since 1900, after the US, hypocritically pretended to free them from Spain.

Always the rankest liars, the most perfidious governments known to mankind.
 
Please show me this agreement.

It's not on paper. It's in his actions. But here. Look at that 2 handed greeting....Is Putin his long lost uncle?

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Some people don't like things military yet military deployments aren't made by one side only and CCP Boyz in Beijing are intensely busy militarizing the South China Sea. Some people down there don't like the USA at all.


US may boost Marine Corps force in East Asia

Marine expeditionary units are designed to be a quick reaction force with the ability to respond to any crisis, including helping in wartime.


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US Marines come together after having taken part in an amphibian landing excercise in Chonburi province Thailand on February 17, 2017 during the ten-day annual multi-nation Cobra Gold military exercise co-sponsored by U.S and Thailand and hosted by Thailand. Thailand and US are mutual defense formal treaty allies.


The possibility of the U.S. sending more Marines to East Asia comes as America's top military officer is touring the Asia-Pacific region to assure allies of America's commitment to deterring threats. "[There is] no stronger way to demonstrate our commitment to our allies than actually being physically present," Marine Corps Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said in remarks to Marines this week during a visit to Australia.

Todd Rosenblum, a nonresident senior fellow with the Atlantic Council's Brent Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security, believes it is appropriate to send more U.S. forces to Asia "from a signaling and deterrence standpoint" because China is beefing up its military operations and construction in the region, particularly in the South China Sea.

Rosenblum, a former senior official at the Pentagon during the Obama administration, told CNBC the timing of possibly sending more military forces to East Asia is unfortunate due to the Winter Olympics in South Korea. "But I don't think it's aggravating tensions with North Korea, if you put the timing of the Olympics aside," he said. "It's a small enough signal, a small enough increase where North Korea could read into it anything it wants to. But I think this [boost in forces] is directed toward China," said Rosenbluth.

The Marine expeditionary units of up to 2,000 Infantry are typically stationed aboard ships and also have aircraft assets so they can respond rapidly to any crisis on very short notice. In previous years, the U.S. Marine unit has conducted amphibious warfare training with South Korean forces, including the annual so-called Key Resolve/Foal Eagle war games on the Korean Peninsula. The joint U.S.-South Korea military exercises are expected to begin after the Olympics
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/09/us-...ia-but-critics-say-it-plays-on-fear-card.html



Either one of two things would ignite SCS relations throughout the region. One is if the CCP Boyz in Beijing begin to construct an artificial facility at Scarborough Shoal off the Philippines main island of Luzon and inside the Phils EEZ. Phils and USA are long standing mutual defense formal treaty allies. CCP Boyz in Beijing have built at the Paracels off Vietnam in east area of the Sea and where Vietnam and USA are recently mutual strategic partners by formal agreement. CCP Boyz have built in the Spratlys in the southern area of the Sea where Indonesia recently moved 40 naval ships to the Natuna islands -- while Beijing does not claim the islands proper it does claim its waters which is patently bogus too. Scarborough is strategic because CCP building there in the northeast quadrant of the Sea would complete its own strategic triangle that places international shipping lanes inside. Xi Jinpingpong knows U.S. will go to the mat over Scarborough and that the Phils population and military will too so Xi has laid back on it. Indefinitely it would appear.


The second item is an Air Defense Identification Zone over the whole or part(s) of the Sea that the PLA Air Force and Navy would enforce. Beijing Boyz have said for several years they will do it but they have done nothing about it. CCP Dictator-Tyrants know establishing a SCS ADIZ would force a military confrontation. They know this from the ADIZ Beijing established in 2013 in the East Sea which included the Japan Senkaku islands CCP claim. Beijing Boyz warned anyone entering the East Sea new ADIZ would be dealt with severely. So U.S. two days later flew two nuclear capable but unarmed B-52 through the zone which shut up the Boyz immediately. The Boyz did nothing. Indeed, since then the ADIZ has become aerial swiss cheese as fighters regularly fly through it by U.S., Japan, SK. What we know is that the CCP Dictator-Tyrants won't take any military action they cannot defend. Which includes everything.

Yes, some certain types of people give the CCP Dictator-Tyrants in Beijing a free ride. Always. In everything.
 
It's not on paper. It's in his actions. But here. Look at that 2 handed greeting....Is Putin his long lost uncle?

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Oh it's not on paper, but you overheard it? I'll bet we could find a pic of your Dear Leader shaking Putin's hand. I'll bet we could find a pic of Kerry shaking the hand of an Iranian leader too.
 
RationalPolicy:

Not buying their goods and services, the profits of which go partly to funding such island construction might be a good start. Other than that, wot you said is probably the best course.

More realistically, acknowledging the limits of American global economic and military power and deciding to actually partner with, rather than just using, other states would be a good idea. India and Indonesia will be vital to that possible policy. Ultimately, realising that China is a rising Asian/Pacific superpower and that it will inevitably seek to exert hegemony in its coastal near-abroad and across Eurasia is important. The question will be how far is the USA willing to go to prevent China from rising and what would be the likely consequences of trying to keep China in a middle-power status? Is America willing to risk war to do so? If not, then lots of creative thinking and paradigm shifting will be needed.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I definitely think that going to war over these military installations would be a poor choice, as we have far more to lose than we stand to gain. However, I think we have significant interests, both military/diplomatic and commercial in the region and should work to make the zone amenable to our system of free trade and economic openness. Pushing back on the Chinese intention to dominate this region is the only way for us to maintain whatever sort of hold we have in the Pacific, and I feel that a trade pact is the best non-military way to do this. I also feel that we should work with the Chinese in as many ways as we can, including through trade and regional structures, like ASEAN, to further entrench our mutually-beneficial trading partnership. The more we can entangle our economy with the Chinese, the worse it would hurt the Chinese to lose our trade (it would hurt us too, but I don't mind that as it would make us think twice before launching an ill-considered war). So I guess the only thing in your post that I would disagree with is reducing our trade with China, as I think that is one thing that allows us to exert some pressure on the Chinese given our mutual reliance on each other's economic power. I would, however, want to reduce our trade deficit with the Chinese by exporting more to China, specifically our excellent services (financial, legal, etc.) which could both bring the trade deficit down and bring Western thinking and reform to the Chinese economy (which desperately needs it).
 
This is nothing more than propaganda. You seek to instill fear through telling lies.

Oil companies have been through there extensively and there is no oil reserves in that area. Nor has any fisherman been inconvenienced beyond not being able to use the immediate area. Nor has any ships passing through those lanes been disturbed. There claim of authority does no more than overlap the already existing overlapping claims of ownership to that area that has existed since those countries first came into existence.

I would say your fantasy is as harmful as any fantasy to drop bombs.

This is no propaganda. Look at the map below. China's claims are the red dashes, which are clearly overtaking the 200-miles exclusive economic zones of multiple other countries, including Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, and Indonesia. They claim this solely on the basis of 'historical right'. That basis is as legitimate as the 'mandate of heaven' was. This is clearly a violation of international law and the rights of the nations I mentioned before. Regardless of whether the Chinese are building military installations in this disputed area (they very obviously are), the claim itself is illegal.
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Your claims about there being "no oil reserves in that area" is laughably false. According to the US Energy Information Administration, "the South China Sea contains approximately 11 billion barrels of oil and 190 trillion cubic feet of natural gas in proved and probable reserves." The contested areas do hold some of these hydrocarbons, and may contain more than is currently realized as exploration has been halted by the Chinese. There are also multiple accounts of Vietnamese and other fishermen who have been attacked or otherwise harassed by Chinese military vessels for fishing within their nation's exclusive economic zones. Chinese fishermen, backed by Chinese military vessels, have also been fishing illegally in the waters of other nations, just as provocative a move as building on these reefs.

China is also not happy about traditional US 'freedom of navigation' exercises, which involve sailing US warships through globally-recognized international waters to assure that trade and navigational rights are being respected. After one of the more recent US exercises in the South China Sea, the Chinese sent out their own warships and warned the US away from the disputed reefs which are, again, in international waters. This does not bode well for freedom of navigation, which is critical for global trade.

You also mention that the Chinese claim "does no more than overlap the already existing overlapping claims of ownership to that area that has existed since those countries first came into existence." This rationale is not only faulty, it would break the international system we are currently operating under. Who gets to decide when a country "first came into existence"? The Chinese obviously did not control all of the territory they are currently claiming when they first existed, but instead when they were at the apex of their power. If the rules were done that way, would the UK control the waters around India, half of Africa, the US, the Caribbean, and Canada? Would France get to set their boundaries at the height of Napoleon's conquests? No, of course not. That would be patently absurd. We have the system we do not because we set it up after WWII to be as fair as we could make it while still benefiting the US and other Western states. That means that nations get to control the waters 200 miles off of their coasts, period. China does not get to exert fuller control simply because of some 'historical right'. China is no better than Vietnam, or the Philippines, or Indonesia. Just like we are no better than Canada or Mexico. If we are all following the same rules, we should all play by them. Once we allow China to break the rules here, we are allowing them to break the rules wherever they want. That's a recipe for utter disaster.
 
Oh it's not on paper, but you overheard it? I'll bet we could find a pic of your Dear Leader shaking Putin's hand. I'll bet we could find a pic of Kerry shaking the hand of an Iranian leader too.

But will they be copping a feel with the other hand like Trump? I doubt it. Trump has fulfilled every wish on Putin's list that he was able to and still refuses to implement the sanctions that Congress unanimously voted to instate for Putin's meddling in our elections. He also tried to lift preious sanctions as soon as he was sworn in. That is evidence enough.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/former-diplomats-trump-team-sought-lift-sanctions-russia-n767406
 
Let's get real over there. Listening to the CCP Boyz in Beijing only is a guaranteed embarrassment.

One reason the Tribunal in The Hague ruled unanimously against Beijing in the SCS case is that no one country's historical records are definitive. Indeed, any country can claim whatever it wants to claim is its territory. Nobody in East and South Asia does this more than China has done it for thousands of years and the nations know this throughout the region. CCP Boyz in Beijing claim more territory outside of China than they have in China, to include in Russia and in India.


It is time to rename the South China Sea


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Western mariners named the southeast Asia sea the South China Sea for convenience and a ready recognition in the West.



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Some Vietnamese petitioned the UN Atlas of the Oceans to change the name to Southeast Asia Sea but Beijing remains opposed.


For all the complexities of the territorial struggle between China and its neighbors in the South China Sea, there’s a growing recognition that part of the problem is simply the name of the place.

The countries of Southeast Asia encompass almost the entire South China Sea with a total coastline measuring approximately 130,000 km (81,250 miles) long; whereas the Southern China’s coastline measured about 2,800 km (1,750 miles) in length. China claims nearly all the strategic waterway as its own territory, based on a nine-dash line drawn up after World War 2. Though an international tribunal invalidated the line in a July 2016 ruling, Beijing continues to uphold its expansive claims.

In English, changing the name of the sea to “South Sea” might work, argued Ellen Frost, a senior adviser at the East-West Center, earlier this year. Chinese nationalists would surely reject the “Southeast Asia Sea,” she noted. But they’d have a harder time arguing against the “South Sea”—even though it removes “China”—since in Chinese the name “Nanhai” has been around for centuries.


That change, she contended, “would signal a small, seemingly technical, but meaningful contribution to peace.

https://qz.com/763161/it-is-time-to-rename-the-south-china-sea/


Nanhai = South Sea.

Overbearing bully means, well, overbearing bully. The peoples of Southeast Asia have known the China overbearing bully for thousands of years and they have never been better positioned to counter it as effectively as they are doing in the 21st century. And help is on the way.
 
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UK said last year it would send its new aircraft carrier to the South China Sea. UK has flown Tornado fighter jets over the sea during visits to Japan. India, Japan, Australia have conducted joint naval exercises in the area to include USN. In June the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier strike force will visit Camranh Bay in Vietnam which has upgraded the base to receive aircraft carriers. Vietnam and USA have become formal strategic partners. U.S. and India are now formal strategic partners.


Britain plots confrontation with Beijing by sending Royal Navy warship through disputed South China Sea

February 13, 2018

Beijing has warned against "stirring up trouble" in the South China Sea after Britain vowed to send a warship through the heart of disputed waters next month.

Gavin Williamson, British Defence Secretary, said HMS Sutherland, an anti-submarine frigate, would sail through the sea on its way home from Australia to assert freedom of navigation rights.

"She'll be sailing through the South China Sea and making it clear our Navy has a right to do that," he told The Australian newspaper after a two-day visit to Sydney and Canberra.

China claims nearly all of the strategic waters, despite partial counter-claims from Taiwan and several south-east Asian nations including the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, and Vietnam.

Observers say China is developing its military capabilities by fortifying and building infrastructure on what were previously reefs and partially-submerged islets in the sea, where more than $5 trillion (£3.8 trillion) of trade passes every year.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/britain-plots-confrontation-beijing-sending-044421281.html




France is the only country in Europe that has a Pacific Fleet....


France Wants Coordinated EU Patrols in South China Sea

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In a display of military power aimed at China, France dispatched last year one of its powerful Mistral amphibious carriers to lead drills on and around Tinian island in the western Pacific, with Japanese and U.S. personnel and two troop-carrying helicopters sent by Britain.[/IMG]


(Bloomberg) — France will urge European Union nations to coordinate navy patrols to ensure a “regular and visible” presence in the disputed South China Sea, in the latest sign of international push back to China’s expanded military clout in the area.

The French government views the protection of freedom of the seas as critical from an economic standpoint and is concerned that a loss of such rights in the South China Sea may lead to similar problems in the Arctic Ocean or Mediterranean Sea, Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian told attendees at a global defense forum, including top Chinese officials.

“If we want to contain the risk of conflict, we must defend this right, and defend it ourselves,” Le Drian said at the Shangri-La dialogue in Singapore. He said France’s navy has been deployed three times through parts of the South China Sea. “Several times per year, French navy ships cross the waters of this region, and they’ll continue to do it.”

European nations have previously urged claimant states in the South China Sea — China, Taiwan and some Southeast Asian nations — to resolve their disputes peacefully, while calling for the continuation of free navigation through one of the world’s busiest shipping lanes.

“This is a message that France will continue to be present at international forums,” Le Drian said. “It’s also a message that France will continue to act upon, by sailing its ships and flying its planes wherever international law will allow, and wherever operational needs request that we do so.”

Le Drian said he regretted that the Association of Southeast Asian Nations had not made substantial progress toward a code of conduct with China on the South China Sea.


France Wants Coordinated EU Patrols in South China Sea – gCaptain





These 4 Countries Collectively Will Stop China From Ruling The South China Sea





China versus the world is a fail. Every China dynasty has failed. The present CCP Dynasty of emperors in business suits is a young and nervous dynasty that is getting all they can while they can. They're hoping their luck doesn't run out too soon.
 
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