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How will Trump respond if North Korea threatens the USA with nuclear attack?

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What do you think?

I believe that would lead to the war in Korea heating up and the end of North Korea.

Trump isn't a BS artist,he's a guy who recognizes that action speaks louder than words.

I'm not wishing for this,it's just one of the things that I see around the corner.



Let's wait and see what happens in the next 4 years.
 
shrubnose said:
What do you think?

I believe that would lead to the war in Korea heating up and the end of North Korea.

Trump isn't a BS artist,he's a guy who recognizes that action speaks louder than words.

I'm not wishing for this,it's just one of the things that I see around the corner.



Let's wait and see what happens in the next 4 years.
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NK has been saber rattling for decades about this with other presidents. Should trump take the bait and decide to attack he will have been successfully trolled to the tune of over a million dead should he attack. That is the estimated cost of life should an attack on the peninsula happen on both sides.
 
shrubnose said:
What do you think?

I believe that would lead to the war in Korea heating up and the end of North Korea.

Trump isn't a BS artist,he's a guy who recognizes that action speaks louder than words.

I'm not wishing for this,it's just one of the things that I see around the corner.



Let's wait and see what happens in the next 4 years.
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NK has been saber rattling for decades about this with other presidents. Should trump take the bait and decide to attack he will have been successfully trolled to the tune of over a million dead should he attack. That is the estimated cost of life should an attack on the peninsula happen on both sides.
 
shrubnose said:
What do you think?

I believe that would lead to the war in Korea heating up and the end of North Korea.

Trump isn't a BS artist,he's a guy who recognizes that action speaks louder than words.

I'm not wishing for this,it's just one of the things that I see around the corner.



Let's wait and see what happens in the next 4 years.
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Yes. The spectacle could become interesting.
 
shrubnose said:
What do you think?

I believe that would lead to the war in Korea heating up and the end of North Korea.

Trump isn't a BS artist,he's a guy who recognizes that action speaks louder than words.

I'm not wishing for this,it's just one of the things that I see around the corner.



Let's wait and see what happens in the next 4 years.
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Sorry to be harsh but I think you’re being a fantasist.

There’s absolutely no reason and rational for NK to threaten the US with nuclear attack and frankly no reason for the US to respond with anything other than amusement if they did. Even if they actually followed through with such a threat, there’s a good chance US defence measures would stop the handful of missiles NK could launch. Regardless of whether they did, initiating the attack without any major provocation would make NK a complete international pariah (much more than they already are) and see a US ground invasion at least, nuclear retaliation at worst. Whatever they did and wherever they went, the NK leaders would be hunted down and killed by the Americans.

Nations like NK don’t seek nuclear weapons to actually use them, it’s just about image and being able to say they have them. It makes no sense for them to actually use them unilaterally, especially against a major power like the US. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose from that course of action.
 
HonestJoe said:
Sorry to be harsh but I think you’re being a fantasist.

There’s absolutely no reason and rational for NK to threaten the US with nuclear attack and frankly no reason for the US to respond with anything other than amusement if they did. Even if they actually followed through with such a threat, there’s a good chance US defence measures would stop the handful of missiles NK could launch. Regardless of whether they did, initiating the attack without any major provocation would make NK a complete international pariah (much more than they already are) and see a US ground invasion at least, nuclear retaliation at worst. Whatever they did and wherever they went, the NK leaders would be hunted down and killed by the Americans.

Nations like NK don’t seek nuclear weapons to actually use them, it’s just about image and being able to say they have them. It makes no sense for them to actually use them unilaterally, especially against a major power like the US. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose from that course of action.
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It looks to me that North Korea has threatened the US.

https://www.google.de/search?q=north+korea+threatens+us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=de-de&client=safari

We just ignored it largely.
 
shrubnose said:
What do you think?

I believe that would lead to the war in Korea heating up and the end of North Korea.

Trump isn't a BS artist,he's a guy who recognizes that action speaks louder than words.

I'm not wishing for this,it's just one of the things that I see around the corner.



Let's wait and see what happens in the next 4 years.
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My nephew just got orders to Camp Stanley in South Korea, and I see him being pretty bored over the next couple years.

NK isn't doing squat.
 
joG said:
It looks to me that North Korea has threatened the US.
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I’d question whether that’s an actual threat in the context of this thread. Those links just report them asserting their right to defend themselves with equivalent force in the face of an impending attack. The US, and most other countries, assert exactly the same right, if not with quiet as much rhetorical flair.
 
shrubnose said:
What do you think?

I believe that would lead to the war in Korea heating up and the end of North Korea.

Trump isn't a BS artist,he's a guy who recognizes that action speaks louder than words.

I'm not wishing for this,it's just one of the things that I see around the corner.



Let's wait and see what happens in the next 4 years.
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NK is dependent on China. The big question: will China pull the plug on Kim and quickly bring his insane regime to an end? Trump will exert what pressure he can to persuade China to do just that.
 
shrubnose said:
What do you think?

I believe that would lead to the war in Korea heating up and the end of North Korea.

Trump isn't a BS artist,he's a guy who recognizes that action speaks louder than words.

I'm not wishing for this,it's just one of the things that I see around the corner.



Let's wait and see what happens in the next 4 years.
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This is an area where things could all turn to crap very very fast and lots of unknowns could then raise their ugly heads throwing us into war.

Trump will be tested. Trump will have to perform as a leader. And his authoritarian narcissism could well be the fuel that pushes him over the line and throws our nation into war.

For example - let us say that North Korea has a missile hit Japan and thousands are killed. What will be the US response given our long standing alliances with Japan? And if we attack North Korea in response, what will be the response of China or even Trumps buddy today - Putin in Russia?

I don't think anybody can say for sure and all hell could break loose very quickly.
 
shrubnose said:
What do you think?

I believe that would lead to the war in Korea heating up and the end of North Korea.

Trump isn't a BS artist,he's a guy who recognizes that action speaks louder than words.

I'm not wishing for this,it's just one of the things that I see around the corner.



Let's wait and see what happens in the next 4 years.
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Those who have been completely buffaloed by Trump's rhetoric have failed to learn that what Trump does and what he says are 2 different things. You can be assured that what he ends up doing after such provocation will reflect more deliberate and sober consideration than what he is likely to say. It's the difference between trash talking a deal and doing the deal.
 
LowDown said:
Those who have been completely buffaloed by Trump's rhetoric have failed to learn that what Trump does and what he says are 2 different things.
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What more needs to be said?
 
Sweden said:
NK is dependent on China. The big question: will China pull the plug on Kim and quickly bring his insane regime to an end? Trump will exert what pressure he can to persuade China to do just that.
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No, China NOT pull the plug on Kim. NK and its economy is a basket case. The whole country is a mess. If the 'plug is pulled' who will take care of the millions of starving NK's? China? No. SK? No... The US? Nope. Who will pump TRILLIONS into NK to feed its people and build its infrastructure and get its economy going?

No one wants to deal with the mess if Kim and the communists collapse. There's a reason everyone just ignores Kim now.
 
shrubnose said:
What do you think?

I believe that would lead to the war in Korea heating up and the end of North Korea.

Trump isn't a BS artist,he's a guy who recognizes that action speaks louder than words.

I'm not wishing for this,it's just one of the things that I see around the corner.



Let's wait and see what happens in the next 4 years.
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I go back to when Reagan took office. The bad guys were afraid of him, hostages released before "so help me God" echoed across the Capital.

NK will likely act the same way.
 
ocean515 said:
I go back to when Reagan took office. The bad guys were afraid of him, hostages released before "so help me God" echoed across the Capital.

NK will likely act the same way.
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The 'bad guys' killed 241 Marines in Lebanon on Reagan's watch.

Sometimes the 'bad guys' don't giver a crap about tough talk.
 
HonestJoe said:
Sorry to be harsh but I think you’re being a fantasist.

There’s absolutely no reason and rational for NK to threaten the US with nuclear attack and frankly no reason for the US to respond with anything other than amusement if they did. Even if they actually followed through with such a threat, there’s a good chance US defence measures would stop the handful of missiles NK could launch. Regardless of whether they did, initiating the attack without any major provocation would make NK a complete international pariah (much more than they already are) and see a US ground invasion at least, nuclear retaliation at worst. Whatever they did and wherever they went, the NK leaders would be hunted down and killed by the Americans.

Nations like NK don’t seek nuclear weapons to actually use them, it’s just about image and being able to say they have them. It makes no sense for them to actually use them unilaterally, especially against a major power like the US. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose from that course of action.
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And since when does North Korea act rationally?
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
The 'bad guys' killed 241 Marines in Lebanon on Reagan's watch.

Sometimes the 'bad guys' don't giver a crap about tough talk.
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Good point.

10's of millions of people were freed from the scourge of the USSR because of the work Reagan did, so I guess some approaches work, and some don't.
 
ocean515 said:
I go back to when Reagan took office. The bad guys were afraid of him, hostages released before "so help me God" echoed across the Capital.

NK will likely act the same way.
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Those hostages were released as a result of a treasonous deal by Reagan with Iran to keep the hostages until after the election and he would treat them favorably (spare parts, etc. for F4H and other military equipment in Iran inventory). The hostages were released during the Innaugaration ceremony to show Iran's honoring their end of the deal.
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Tigerace117 said:
And since when does North Korea act rationally?
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Always. They know that any Nation without Nukes might be invaded by the USA i.e., Iraq, Libya, Granada, Cuba(Bay of Pigs), Panama, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Syria, Afghanistan, etc. Ergo, NK developed Nukes and I don't blame them. We are occupying South Korea since the 1950's and are unquestionably a threat to North Korea. That threat begets bluster and threats in return. I don't know how good a guy Kim Jong Un is but if he's crazy, he's "crazy like a fox."
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DaveFagan said:
Those hostages were released as a result of a treasonous deal by Reagan with Iran to keep the hostages until after the election and he would treat them favorably (spare parts, etc. for F4H and other military equipment in Iran inventory). The hostages were released during the Innaugaration ceremony to show Iran's honoring their end of the deal.
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Uh huh. Yea, I remember that conspiracy theory being floated about. All part of the re-write of history.

Not interested in running down that rabbit hole. Best to keep to reality.
 
HonestJoe said:
Sorry to be harsh but I think you’re being a fantasist.

There’s absolutely no reason and rational for NK to threaten the US with nuclear attack
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and frankly no reason for the US to respond with anything other than amusement if they did. Even if they actually followed through with such a threat, there’s a good chance US defence measures would stop the handful of missiles NK could launch. Regardless of whether they did, initiating the attack without any major provocation would make NK a complete international pariah (much more than they already are) and see a US ground invasion at least, nuclear retaliation at worst. Whatever they did and wherever they went, the NK leaders would be hunted down and killed by the Americans.

Nations like NK don’t seek nuclear weapons to actually use them, it’s just about image and being able to say they have them. It makes no sense for them to actually use them unilaterally, especially against a major power like the US. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose from that course of action.
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Kim Jong-un isn't a reasonable,rational person.He doesn't play by the same rules that most people follow.
 
HonestJoe said:
I’d question whether that’s an actual threat in the context of this thread. Those links just report them asserting their right to defend themselves with equivalent force in the face of an impending attack. The US, and most other countries, assert exactly the same right, if not with quiet as much rhetorical flair.
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I think you are somewhat too little watchful.
 
shrubnose said:
Kim Jong-un isn't a reasonable,rational person.He doesn't play by the same rules that most people follow.
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Not at all but even with his warped view of the world, there’s no path where his directly threatening the US with a nuclear strike would lead to a positive outcome from his point of view. I just don’t see it as a likely prospect to be worth considering on-spec.
 
haymarket said:
This is an area where things could all turn to crap very very fast and lots of unknowns could then raise their ugly heads throwing us into war.

Trump will be tested. Trump will have to perform as a leader. And his authoritarian narcissism could well be the fuel that pushes him over the line and throws our nation into war.

For example - let us say that North Korea has a missile hit Japan and thousands are killed. What will be the US response given our long standing alliances with Japan? And if we attack North Korea in response, what will be the response of China or even Trumps buddy today - Putin in Russia?

I don't think anybody can say for sure and all hell could break loose very quickly.
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I agree. I doubt that anyone knows for sure exactly what will happen in the next 4 years.

But I seriously doubt that North Korea will become a friend of the USA or a nice place to live anytime soon.
 
ocean515 said:
I go back to when Reagan took office. The bad guys were afraid of him, hostages released before "so help me God" echoed across the Capital.

NK will likely act the same way.
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Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best.
 
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