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The issue here is homogeneous groups with strong identities in conflict with other homogeneous groups with strong identities. There’s nothing magic about national borders to prevent those conflicts. If you eradicate variation within your nation, your conflicts will just be with groups in other nations instead.
But nations limit the conflict opportunities because people do not live together and are instead segregated on different territories. Besides they are politically independent so this means fewer opportunities for power struggles or civilizational disputes

As for IS, the rise of Islamism throughout the near totality of the Muslim world is typically a reaction against the disunion of those weak nations, where common political instances do not work because of the absence of a common and strong national identity, because of the numerous conflicts between tribes, religious groups, social classes and regions, against the distrust and corruption they cause. Like Nazism before, Islamism is an attempt to recreate social bonds that their weak national identities destroyed. This time their model is not the recent and illegitimate nation but rather the caliphates of a mythified past.
 
the Hindus dont seem any better then the Muslims and i know its possible for people to be concerned wiht the rights of others so human nature may be a huge obstacle at times but its not a deal breaker
Hinduism is probably not the most compromising identity but you are wrong to think it is because this or that group is "evil" that the worse ever occurs.

You can make some cultures more compatible or more inclusive. But there are limits set by human nature that we must not ignore. Even if you manage to avoid a blood bath, you will still have disunion, anger, frustration and conflicts, and it will negatively affect trust, economy, equality, cohesion and happiness.
 
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Hinduism is probably not the most compromising identity but you are wrong to think it is because this or that group is "evil" that the worse ever occurs.

You can make some cultures more compatible or more inclusive. But there are limits set by human nature that we must not ignore. Even if you manage to avoid a blood bath, you will still have disunion, anger, frustration and conflicts, and it will negatively affect trust, economy, equality, cohesion and happiness.

still seems worth it to me i live in a country wher most people follow a religion i dont
 
Anyone who wants to criminalize flag burning has an incredibly superficial notion of patriotism and absolutely no understanding of freedom.

I think I understand freedom pretty well

Even the unelected judges concede that the 1st Amendment does not confer abosolute freedom of soeech and action.

You and I just disagree on where speech ends and action begins

Most Americans love the flag and respect the republic for which the flag stands

We conservatives even respect it when we do not always get our way

And we need respect for something in common (the Constitution AND the flag for instance) is necessary for a diverse society like ours can remain a civil republic

Otherwise you just have different minorites taunting each other
 
the Hindus dont seem any better then the Muslims and i know its possible for people to be concerned wiht the rights of others so human nature may be a huge obstacle at times but its not a deal breaker

Hindus do not come to America or europe and commit mass murder for the sake of their religion the way muslims do
 
Hindus do not come to America or europe and commit mass murder for the sake of their religion the way muslims do

they do like to keep most of ther atrocity's inside of India

not that all of them or all Muslims are for that
 
they do like to keep most of ther atrocity's inside of India

not that all of them or all Muslims are for that

Thats ok

Just dont bring it here

And hindus dont
 
Thats ok

Just dont bring it here

And hindus dont

well no thats not ok

and we are talking about inside of India at the moment
 
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