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[W:22] Game of Thrones - Season 8 - Episode 3 *SPOILERS*

Serenity said:
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The thread title has been changed to "Game of Thrones - Season 8 - Episode 3 *SPOILERS*"

Can we all please now focus on Game of Thrones content discussions only. Thank you.
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I wouldn't mind too terribly if you delete my messages that perpetuate the spoilers.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Gee, I had no idea that true followers of this story would think that a title indicating the end of the White Walkers in the third of a six episode final season, despite all the signaling that the real battle would be between the three final Major Houses over who, if anyone, sits on the Iron Throne would be a BIG REVEAL! This despite S8 E2 clearly showing all of the Stark and Targaryen forces were arrayed in a final end all battle the next morning?

I did not reveal who lived and who died did I? Or the surprise ending did I? Or even a step by step reveal of what happened did I?

You are all upset that Season 8 Episode 3 didn't keep the overwhelming threat of the White Walker's from ending despite three dragons, and everyone willing to actually fight them meeting in an epic battle?

What EXACTLY did you expect? It to drag out for another episode? Maybe two more episodes? That Winter would ultimately win? :roll:

The point of this thread was not to "ooo and aaah" over what happened, but to discuss what happens NEXT...who ultimately wins the REAL conflict.

Hence the three questions posed.

(also See post #14.)
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Look at this complete jerk justify his spoiling an event that I have been waiting 8 seasons for. DON'T CONTAIN SPOILERS IN YOUR THREAD TITLE GENIUS. You revealed the entire outcome of the most anticipated episode yet.

How completely clueless you are, and you even put a spoiler alert in your post. Wow, I'm amazed that someone thinks this behavior is okay, especially when several others come in and tell you how it upset them.
 
Serenity said:
Same here, I couldn't get into it initially for a few reasons but caught up recently and this is the first season I'm watching live too.
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At least we both caught up to the end of an era. :)
 
bongsaway said:
The dragon queen will sit on the iron throne and john snow will once again be king of the north because he doesn't want the iron throne. That's my guess.
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I was thinking Rick Grimes can swoop in and sit on the Iron Throne.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I just got through watching the 3rd Episode of Game of Thrones Season 8.

It was the most gut-wrenching, edge of your seat episode of them all. I was annoyed, shocked, desperate, thrilled, and the surprise ending was totally unexpected.

I am so in awe of this series.

So now we have three more episodes left to see, and I wonder: (SPOILER ALERT!)


Don't read if you haven't seen the Episode yet!




1. How John Snow and Daenerys recover from their entire army being destroyed;


2. Who wins the coming war with Cersei and the South.


3. Which, if either, John Snow (nee Aegon Targaryen) or Daenary's ultimately sit on the Iron Throne.


Any ideas/opinions on those questions?
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What is it about Game of Thrones?
 
Serenity said:
Same here, I couldn't get into it initially for a few reasons but caught up recently and this is the first season I'm watching live too.
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What caused you to like Game of Thrones?
 
I thought the episode was pretty lame, especially the ending. Very lazy writing -- all hope is lost, and then suddenly someone leaps out of thin air to save the day. It was very much reminiscent of the Battle of Naboo scene in the god-awful Phantom Menace.

It had some good moments, but overall, it was a pretty incoherent mess from a story-telling point of view. I still don't know why the KK had such a hard-on for Bran.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Yeah, I will say that was kinda dumb. They pretty much wasted all of the Dothraki they had on a silly charge, that they should've known wouldn't work. They should have just stuck with the seige tactics. They lost a ton of men outside of the gates, that could've probably served a better purpose fighting on the walls.
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My other big issue is how utterly worthless Bran was through the whole conflict. If the writers want us to buy in to the plot mechanism that the Night King has martialed all of his forces because he needs to destroy Bran, then maybe have Bran DO SOMETHING that hints at why Bran is such a threat to the Night King.

But no... his entire contribution to the war effort was to go be a crow doing crow things.
 
Tlrmln said:
I thought the episode was pretty lame, especially the ending. Very lazy writing -- all hope is lost, and then suddenly someone leaps out of thin air to save the day. It was very much reminiscent of the Battle of Naboo scene in the god-awful Phantom Menace.
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Well, no, it isn't lazy writing to spend thousands of pages preparing the back story for a character who could precisely pull off a feat like that... as well as sneak in dozens of foreshadowing events that, only on hindsight, told you what was going to happen.

Milisandre told Arya what she would do years before she did it, in veiled terms.

In a scene where Arya was training with Brie she used the dagger switching trick to win a match she had otherwise lost.

Arya's mentor primed Arya for Milisandre's pep talk.

And so on. That ending was not just thrown in, or lazy, the whole story of Arya over the whole series was building to it.
 
jmotivator said:
My other big issue is how utterly worthless Bran was through the whole conflict. If the writers want us to buy in to the plot mechanism that the Night King has martialed all of his forces because he needs to destroy Bran, then maybe have Bran DO SOMETHING that hints at why Bran is such a threat to the Night King.

But no... his entire contribution to the war effort was to go be a crow doing crow things.
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They already said why he seeks him, not because he is a threat, but because he contains the memory of mankind which is sought to be utterly wiped out by the Night King. Killing Bran is paramount to his ambition of total destruction and the endless night.
 
Whoawhoawhoawhoa.... whoa, hold up.... GOT and ENDGAME spoiler ahead....

How did I not notice until now that my whole weekend of entertainment... maybe THE WEEKEND of entertainment of the last 35 years.... hinged entirely on the heroics of people with the last name of Stark?
 
TrueScotsman said:
They already said why he seeks him, not because he is a threat, but because he contains the memory of mankind which is sought to be utterly wiped out by the Night King. Killing Bran is paramount to his ambition of total destruction and the endless night.
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Seems kind of redundant, given that he wanted to kill EVERYONE.
 
Speaking of foreshadowing...

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jmotivator said:
Whoawhoawhoawhoa.... whoa, hold up.... GOT and ENDGAME spoiler ahead....

How did I not notice until now that my whole weekend of entertainment... maybe THE WEEKEND of entertainment of the last 35 years.... hinged entirely on the heroics of people with the last name of Stark?
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And we all know how that ended.;)
 
I'm a little irritated about Ice Necromancer's defeat. Unlike the OP, I thought it was obvious and telegraphed. "Green eyes, brown eyes... and blue eyes." And then when Jon was unable to reach Bran due to the Dark Souls Dragon Boss Fight Scene, who else to save the day? Arya Ex Machina! The problem is that Arya was never connected to the White Walker plotline. They spent seven freaking seasons setting up Jon Snow as the opposition to Death Incarnate But Blue. And they don't even fight a little. Jon as the distraction that Arya uses to shank Darth Maul From Minnesota would have worked better. (instead of Theon) Or perhaps Jon and Theon fight side by side and get beat, then stabby time.

Also, the Dothraki kamikaze charge was an amazing shot but also the worst tactical choice in cavalry history.
 
Deuce said:
I'm a little irritated about Ice Necromancer's defeat. Unlike the OP, I thought it was obvious and telegraphed. "Green eyes, brown eyes... and blue eyes." And then when Jon was unable to reach Bran due to the Dark Souls Dragon Boss Fight Scene, who else to save the day? Arya Ex Machina! The problem is that Arya was never connected to the White Walker plotline. They spent seven freaking seasons setting up Jon Snow as the opposition to Death Incarnate But Blue. And they don't even fight a little. Jon as the distraction that Arya uses to shank Darth Maul From Minnesota would have worked better. (instead of Theon) Or perhaps Jon and Theon fight side by side and get beat, then stabby time.

Also, the Dothraki kamikaze charge was an amazing shot but also the worst tactical choice in cavalry history.
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The cavalry charge didn't make much sense, since they were in a defending position. I was sad to see the dothraki army wiped out so pointlessly, as they've been with us for many seasons. Their involvement in the battle against the Lannister army was epic and it was fun to watch them clean house. Their death seemed like fodder for shock value, and I admit it was pretty creepy seeing their torches go out.

I also felt similar to you about Arya's involvement. In one scene we see her hiding from the death walkers but still getting caught, then overwhelmed, then barely saved by the Hound. Then out of nowhere, she somehow made it all the way to Bran to save the day. I suppose the one thing that links Arya to the Night King is her training in matters of life and death in Bravos. To be fair, Melisandre did tell her the "eyes" prophecy a long time ago... but those eyes could be anybody's eyes since her hit list was huge.

It did seem like Jon Snow was meant to have a final showdown with the Night King. When it was thwarted I felt very frustrated and cheated. I also felt a little bit cheated by the lack of depth into the Night King's history. Yes, we know why he was created and how they lost control of him, but I just wanted more.
 
bongsaway said:
The dragon queen will sit on the iron throne and john snow will once again be king of the north because he doesn't want the iron throne. That's my guess.
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That's a plausible ending and I've thought the same thing.
Now, I dunno.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I just got through watching the 3rd Episode of Game of Thrones Season 8.

It was the most gut-wrenching, edge of your seat episode of them all. I was annoyed, shocked, desperate, thrilled, and the surprise ending was totally unexpected.

I am so in awe of this series.

So now we have three more episodes left to see, and I wonder: (SPOILER ALERT!)


Don't read if you haven't seen the Episode yet!




1. How John Snow and Daenerys recover from their entire army being destroyed;


2. Who wins the coming war with Cersei and the South.


3. Which, if either, John Snow (nee Aegon Targaryen) or Daenary's ultimately sit on the Iron Throne.


Any ideas/opinions on those questions?
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I dont think we have seen the last of the whitewalkers. That was entirely too easy and we still have the question of who the whitewalkers are, still lingering. Hard yo believe they are gonna be able to wrap it all up in a few more episodes.

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TheGoverness said:
I don't know how I feel about the Night King dying so easily, though. It did feel anti-climactic.
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Although I'm happy that Arya killed the Night King, I do wish he would have staggered around in agony for a few seconds.
A scene kinda like the wicked witch in "The Wizard of Oz" bemoaning her fate at the hands of a little girl would've been great.
Maybe an...." You cursed brat, look what you've done! I'm melting...I'm melting..." sort of scene.
The N King shattering into ice cubes looked pretty cool, though.
 
year2late said:
I was thinking Rick Grimes can swoop in and sit on the Iron Throne.
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Ha-ha.....now that is a show that has really overstayed its welcome.
 
Tlrmln said:
I still don't know why the KK had such a hard-on for Bran.
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I think Bran explained that in Episode 2. Something to the effect that The N King wants to destroy all of mankinds's history and memory.
Bran knows all of mankind's history, so he's a target.
Works for me.:shrug:
 
In an earlier episode we learned that white walkers could be killed by fire, dragon glass or Valyrian steel. So, why, when Danny hit the night king with fire did he not die? The only person I’ve seen walk out of fire is Danny! I think he and she might have been related somehow.
 
Crystal said:
In an earlier episode we learned that white walkers could be killed by fire, dragon glass or Valyrian steel. So, why, when Danny hit the night king with fire did he not die? The only person I’ve seen walk out of fire is Danny! I think he and she might have been related somehow.
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The Night King is from the old world of magic, and so is Danny's bloodline. We've seen the Whytes walk through fire before like it was nothing.
 
trouble13 said:
I dont think we have seen the last of the whitewalkers. That was entirely too easy and we still have the question of who the whitewalkers are, still lingering. Hard yo believe they are gonna be able to wrap it all up in a few more episodes.

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I was wondering about this too. If the Whytes can resurrect the dead, could they resurrect... themselves?

It's doubtful though. The show is called "Game of Thrones" and ultimately it's about the human saga. The army of the dead doesn't care about a throne.

What troubles me is that in the S8 trailer, we see a map of the Seven Kingdoms being consumed by ice, with only a golden lion stopping it with a line of fire in the south, implying that King's Landing is the last stand. Episode 3 seems to disprove that theory, but maybe not. Then again maybe the trailer was just hype :shrug:
 
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