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Game of Thrones Season 8 *spoilers* thread

I don't have a spoiler about the show about I do have a game of thrones spoiler of sorts:

I have watched a few episodes in the first series and then never again, and I loves me some fantasy big time, big LOTR fan and a lot of other fantasy shows but this one, sorry, I did not get the point. I may give it a chance someday when I can watch all seasons after another but for now I don't like GOT. Cannot understand why people are so crazy about the show to the level of naming your child after a character of a TV show like that. Look my son, we named you have a guy on the show who dropped his pants all the time and who slept with his aunt. Isn't that neat? Sorry, loving a TV show is fine but I would never call a child Jean-Luc because I loved Star Trek, or James Tiberius/Spock/Data or whatever ludicrous names are thought of. But that is just me, the GOT cynic/ignoramus.

Now that I got that off my chest, here is another one. I never watched Breaking Bad, I watched 1 episode and thought, hell no, not my thing.

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I never would have guessed!
 
Alas, the ending didn't quite work. First, thought Dany would die near the end of the episode, and her softening towards Jon seemed out of character given her evolution into being hard and cold. And the meeting at the end of the parties seemed to resolve issues far too easily. And Jeez, nobody mentions to the unsullied that Jon Snow is the true king and she was a usurper (and aunt)? Worse, Bran is totally unsuited for administration and leadership. He has done nothing to suggest he has such skills, and is a complete enigma to the others.

And besides, me thought that Arya would have played a pivotal role given her symbolic discovery of a white horse. Frankly I would have enjoyed seeing the unsullied and Dorthraki get their comeuppance as well.
 
maxparrish said:
Alas, the ending didn't quite work. First, thought Dany would die near the end of the episode, and her softening towards Jon seemed out of character given her evolution into being hard and cold. And the meeting at the end of the parties seemed to resolve issues far too easily. And Jeez, nobody mentions to the unsullied that Jon Snow is the true king and she was a usurper (and aunt)? Worse, Bran is totally unsuited for administration and leadership. He has done nothing to suggest he has such skills, and is a complete enigma to the others.

And besides, me thought that Arya would have played a pivotal role given her symbolic discovery of a white horse. Frankly I would have enjoyed seeing the unsullied and Dorthraki get their comeuppance as well.
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it is over and people watched. they made a lot of money and probably don't care so much of the got geeks that are signing a petition.
 
No one will be satisfied except Tormund and Ghost, reunited with Jon who is still :doh. Sansa proved herself the strongest man in the Kingdoms. Arya is off to new adventures in the west, sure sounds like a spinoff. Will she find a mate with similar peccadilloes and make a bevy of little assassins? Bran is now super warg. Tyrion got the big chair. Nothing like having the greediest man in the kingdom in charge of money and the brothels. All will be well in Westeros and the north. Drogon had a melt down, but has he taken Dany's body for a reviving of some sort? I could stand for seeing Emilia Clark naked again.

Plenty of unanswered questions, unresolved futures and pasts, but that is why we have imaginations. Still by far the best sword and sorcery fantasy to have hit any screen, so far. As the worm turns. A bitter sweet ending.

Let the critics sing forth. It was fun. A streaming and bootleg champ for decades to come.
 
I would have loved to see the force most responsible for the most kills gain the throne... Drogon!!

Poor kid. Now he is an orphan and all his brothers are dead. Would have loved to see him gain the throne and perhaps marry Sansa and have dragon kids.
 
It felt so lacking didn't it? Bran, of all people, was the last one I imagined on the throne through the 8 years of watching this show. His scenes were always kinda the worst and I never had much interest in his stories.
Arya is basically Marco Polo now, and why do the Watch still exist? What are they watching with the Night King gone?

Ah. No more episodes or seasons to wait for. Bummer.
 
I'm satisfied.

The only downside is that it was all very rushed. Danaerys' turn of mood wasn't so believable because of how fast it had to happen, in mere episodes.

I think Bran as King makes sense. He has memory of the history of the world. That would make him wise beyond measure.

Jon's punishment... kind of unbecoming, considering that he just saved what was left of the Six Kingdoms. Also he is the rightful heir and gave it up. I don't understand why he had to be banished in order to appease Worm, who himself was leaving to go to Naarth. They could've just said, "Sure, we'll punish him", and then.... not.

The only major loose end is... who is the Price that is Promised? They kind of screwed that one up. Also who were the "green eyes" that Arya was supposed to close forever?
 
Very happy with the big finish - some of the visuals (as almost always) were stunning and took TV to new levels.

They seemed to be setting up Arya for a spin off and I really have no interest in that plot line - at least now.
 
Northern Light said:
I'm satisfied.

The only downside is that it was all very rushed. Danaerys' turn of mood wasn't so believable because of how fast it had to happen, in mere episodes.

I think Bran as King makes sense. He has memory of the history of the world. That would make him wise beyond measure.

Jon's punishment... kind of unbecoming, considering that he just saved what was left of the Six Kingdoms. Also he is the rightful heir and gave it up. I don't understand why he had to be banished in order to appease Worm, who himself was leaving to go to Naarth. They could've just said, "Sure, we'll punish him", and then.... not.

The only major loose end is... who is the Price that is Promised? They kind of screwed that one up. Also who were the "green eyes" that Arya was supposed to close forever?
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Yeah I didnt like how they pretty much gave up on Jon and how the unsullied where pretty much destroyed and then they magically appear as so many. She only got 8,000 total and there looked to be more than that at the end and that they were somehow still a force to be reckoned with.
 
Solid choice for king. Lame that essentially Jon's "destiny" was condemnation and exile north to the wall. As is usual with him he abdicates his post and goes off on his own, fitting in a way.

It was the best episode of season 8, I do however feel that they ought to have expanded some more and spread it out over more episodes. The writers were hamstrung with a lack of content, given GRRM's inability to finish the story (It's been, what, 7 years since DWD was released?)

Overall satisfied and unsatisfied.
 
Crovax said:
Yeah I didnt like how they pretty much gave up on Jon and how the unsullied where pretty much destroyed and then they magically appear as so many. She only got 8,000 total and there looked to be more than that at the end and that they were somehow still a force to be reckoned with.
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The unsullied and Dothraki make no sense. Basically everyone was killed fighting the army of the dead, but I guess the writers said after the fact it was only half their forces. I dislike how the army of the dead and night king became a completely useless plot line in the end, just another brick in the Dany/Jon wall that, in the end, didn't even matter.
 
Obscurity said:
The unsullied and Dothraki make no sense. Basically everyone was killed fighting the army of the dead, but I guess the writers said after the fact it was only half their forces. I dislike how the army of the dead and night king became a completely useless plot line in the end, just another brick in the Dany/Jon wall that, in the end, didn't even matter.
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I had guessed the last scene was going to be Jon beyond the wall w/ Tormund and they discover one of the body part symbols that the white walkers make and then the show ends there
 
Crovax said:
I had guessed the last scene was going to be Jon beyond the wall w/ Tormund and they discover one of the body part symbols that the white walkers make and then the show ends there
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The white walkers were the greatest literary deflection ever. I suppose it is shirking a trope that haunted fantasy, that of an unbeatable enemy that threatens the entire world - to simply have the "politicking" of it all be the primary focus after the fact.

The north being independent is a little odd but then they bend the knee to sansa.

Bran being "king turnip" in season 7, knowing "everything" and then not actually doing anything - is a little strange. It speaks to the rushed nature of the filming, that the final developments in these characters made less sense because they did not put enough time into bridging the season 7 gap.
 
So that's it.

I felt empty inside after watching the episode. It was pretty unsatisfying. It felt so rushed, and this is a consequence of this season being too damn short. Daenerys' death was meh. At the very least, Tyrion was great this episode. I could point out stupid inconsistencies like the Dothraki and Unsullied continuing the multiply out of thin air, or Cersei and Jaime being buried under a small pile of rubble, but whatever. It's over. I give the episode about a 4/10 overall. They really squandered this thing. Overall, this season was pretty bad. The only episodes I like are the first two, and after that it was a continual increasing pile of dumpster fire. I did enjoy certain moments, but man this really was a dissapointment. Hopefully the spin-offs will be good, because I am still interested in the franchise. With any luck, D&D will have no part in those (at least not in the writing department).
 
Favourite scene. Loved it.

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Moral of the story;
Drogon is loyal, humans are not.

No words for how much I loved watching Drogons character develop. Drogon understood it was the Throne who killed Dany, not Jon.

And Ghost at the end. Cried. Like a baby.
 
Serenity said:
Favourite scene. Loved it.

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Moral of the story;
Drogon is loyal, humans are not.

No words for how much I loved watching Drogons character develop. Drogon understood it was the Throne who killed Dany, not Jon.

And Ghost at the end. Cried. Like a baby.
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That was a very cool shot. I'm glad Ghost got his much-deserved pets in the end, too. He's the goodest of bois.
 
Serenity said:
Favourite scene. Loved it.

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Moral of the story;
Drogon is loyal, humans are not.

No words for how much I loved watching Drogons character develop. Drogon understood it was the Throne who killed Dany, not Jon.

And Ghost at the end. Cried. Like a baby.
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Indeed that scene was quite powerful, Dany at her peak right before the end.
I can't say I liked the making-the-dragon-more-intelligent-being-than-stupid-power-hungry-humans moment though especially because it came right after it gladly followed orders from its mommy to murder little children by the masses.
 
Apocalypse said:
It felt so lacking didn't it? Bran, of all people, was the last one I imagined on the throne through the 8 years of watching this show. His scenes were always kinda the worst and I never had much interest in his stories.
Arya is basically Marco Polo now, and why do the Watch still exist? What are they watching with the Night King gone?

Ah. No more episodes or seasons to wait for. Bummer.
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Well, the Night King was defeated before and came back. That's the point of the night watch.

That last episode was very weak, though. The council to determine the fate of Tyrion was rather cringe worthy and seemed more like an improv skit.

All that said, it wasn't terrible, and the last 3 episodes were a master class in cinematography.
 
Northern Light said:
I'm satisfied.

The only downside is that it was all very rushed. Danaerys' turn of mood wasn't so believable because of how fast it had to happen, in mere episodes.

I think Bran as King makes sense. He has memory of the history of the world. That would make him wise beyond measure.

Jon's punishment... kind of unbecoming, considering that he just saved what was left of the Six Kingdoms. Also he is the rightful heir and gave it up. I don't understand why he had to be banished in order to appease Worm, who himself was leaving to go to Naarth. They could've just said, "Sure, we'll punish him", and then.... not.

The only major loose end is... who is the Price that is Promised? They kind of screwed that one up. Also who were the "green eyes" that Arya was supposed to close forever?
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The actress who played Daenerys actually had a really interesting interview on the subject of her character that I thought was useful, though I am having a hard time finding it this morning. She made a good argument for Daenerys sudden turn that revolved around her entire history. If I come across it again I'll post it here.

On sending Jon to the wall, I think the fear was that the Unsullied would return if they fond out Jon wasn't punished. I think the less believable part of all that is that Gray Worm gave in to the council at all. He said from the start of that council that the Unsullied owned Kings Landing... only to hand it off along with the responsibility. He had no reason at all to answer to the 7 Kingdoms. But Jon didn't end up following his orders anyway, and went to rule the Wildlings... which was really what Jon had wanted since meeting Ygritte. The White Walkers had forced him back into the concerns of Westeros.

I think my favorite part of the episode was the moment of humanity they gave Drogon, who seemed to know that Daenerys death was for that throne.
 
jmotivator said:
Well, the Night King was defeated before and came back. That's the point of the night watch.

That last episode was very weak, though. The council to determine the fate of Tyrion was rather cringe worthy and seemed more like an improv skit.

All that said, it wasn't terrible, and the last 3 episodes were a master class in cinematography.
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Cinematography-wise, sure, some of the best moments of the small screen ever.

But this show's reputation was always about the plot first and foremost. Ending it in such a way... I don't know. I felt like there was so much that people were having in their minds for the last 8 years regarding how the show would end and how big it would be and the emotional closures of each and every character, and none of that came through in this ending.

But I guess that's the only way that shows like this can end and maybe we're being too greedy here.
 
Obscurity said:
Solid choice for king. Lame that essentially Jon's "destiny" was condemnation and exile north to the wall. As is usual with him he abdicates his post and goes off on his own, fitting in a way.

It was the best episode of season 8, I do however feel that they ought to have expanded some more and spread it out over more episodes. The writers were hamstrung with a lack of content, given GRRM's inability to finish the story (It's been, what, 7 years since DWD was released?)

Overall satisfied and unsatisfied.
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Yes, the dwarf and the crippled, what a pair!
 
I caught a comment by someone else that made me chuckle. I should have kept a reference but I didn't. Paraphrasing: "Bran is like a giant internet and web surfer unto himself, busy surfing the worldwide web as he wargs into birds searching for a dragon. Let others do the actual dirty work of governing, he's having fun." Since the 3 eyed raven he has become, omniscient of the past and future he should know exactly where the dragon can be found, why?

Literary license never makes for logic and reason.
 
Apocalypse said:
Cinematography-wise, sure, some of the best moments of the small screen ever.

But this show's reputation was always about the plot first and foremost. Ending it in such a way... I don't know. I felt like there was so much that people were having in their minds for the last 8 years regarding how the show would end and how big it would be and the emotional closures of each and every character, and none of that came through in this ending.

But I guess that's the only way that shows like this can end and maybe we're being too greedy here.
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Well, I once heard an author scoff at the idea of closure for characters in a novel like this: "The only closure is death" ... which is, in fact true. Life goes on for those who live, and given the amount of tragedy in their lives through the plot arc, there is no closure.

People are pissed at GoT in much the same way people were pissed at "No Country for Old Men"... they were expecting a Hollywood ending and there was none, just tragedy. I guess that is why I was so put off by the Council scene and the first meeting with King Brann... the levity was just out of place. I am one of the few people who didn't see the final war as rushed but felt the post war wrap up to be too thin. I remember thinking, as Tyrion was searching from his brother and sister, "Come ooooooon. You have 1 hour and 20 minutes to get everything in and you are spending 10 minutes on Tyrion's search for Jamie and Cersei?"
 
It is a good thing imo the season end on a high note (in terms of ratings)

Too many shows drag on. IMO it is good for the actors to find new work and not be typecasted in these roles.

People shouldn't get too invested in these type of shows. Sure it can be exciting but it is good imo to watch a variety of shows.
 
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