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Ariana vs Selena Fans

DebateChallenge said:
The problem is that all too often marriages don't last when they're done like that. In my opinion marriage should be taken more seriously. Otherwise it would be like Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley.
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I agree, I have long argued that we would help ourselves by making divorce more difficult to obtain.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I agree, I have long argued that we would help ourselves by making divorce more difficult to obtain.
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When it comes to famous entertainers, with the money and the connections they've got divorce will always be easy for them.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Well as I said she trains in Jiu Jitsu. You've made it clear in previous posts that you don't like guns. Martial artists tend to believe in gun rights. Having been in the martial arts most of my life I would know this.
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We are not talking about Jiu Jitsu or martial arts.

I am a trained singer. I have had vocal lessons and used a vocal coach for about two years. I made it on the third round of American Idol. I am not saying I am great, but I would say I am somewhat qualified in assessing her signing ability.

Selena is an actor that took up signing as a hobby. Her popularity is based on her common-girl personality. She struggles with the high notes and her overall voice lacks fullness. She has her moements but when you listen to her live, it is nothing special. No one will confuse her voice with Carey, Houston, Dion.

Ariana Grande is on a different level. It is not even close.
 
Let me say once again, Selena is a better actor/promoter. I have invested a lot of money in her clothing line. I have high expectations her partnership can rival the Italian fashion houses...

That being said, her voice is average. Her popularity is based on her down-to-earth personality which fans just love at that age - "hey, she's just like me!!!"
 
Debate,

You act like she is some great Contralto singer. I could name at least 5 female signers that are better Contralto signers.

She certainly is not a Soprano signer.
 
Bucky said:
Let me say once again, Selena is a better actor/promoter. I have invested a lot of money in her clothing line. I have high expectations her partnership can rival the Italian fashion houses...

That being said, her voice is average. Her popularity is based on her down-to-earth personality which fans just love at that age - "hey, she's just like me!!!"
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So you're saying Selena is more or less your "girl next door."
 
DebateChallenge said:
Of course I meant Selena Gomez. Its usually who people think of when they hear the name Selena.
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If you weren't around for the 90s.

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I would like to point out that Ariana did put on a musical performance with Miley Cyrus. I haven't heard much of Miley's singing but from what I have heard Im not all that impressed. I wouldn't say she's a better singer than Selena.
 
DebateChallenge said:
I would like to point out that Ariana did put on a musical performance with Miley Cyrus. I haven't heard much of Miley's singing but from what I have heard Im not all that impressed. I wouldn't say she's a better singer than Selena.
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You are not being objective.
 
DebateChallenge said:
I would like to point out that Ariana did put on a musical performance with Miley Cyrus. I haven't heard much of Miley's singing but from what I have heard Im not all that impressed. I wouldn't say she's a better singer than Selena.
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If you meant Miley Cyrus, perhaps you are correct. Her dad can't sign either.
 
Bucky said:
If you meant Miley Cyrus, perhaps you are correct. Her dad can't sign either.
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Yes I meant Miley Cyrus. Anyway Miley did do a performance with Ariana. That being said I don't find it too far fetched for Ariana and Selena to do a performance together.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Yes I meant Miley Cyrus. Anyway Miley did do a performance with Ariana. That being said I don't find it too far-fetched for Ariana and Selena to do a performance together.
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Ariana Grande last album has done much better than Selena Gomez's last album, and this is despite the fact Gomez's album was put out in 2015. The numbers are telling.

IMO Selena Gomez produces BETTER music but Ariana Grande has a better voice.

This has more to do with Gomez's record label and the DJ, producers, etc.

Grande's music is a bit too commercial. If she can produce more substantive music, she would be unstoppable.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Yes I meant Miley Cyrus. Anyway Miley did do a performance with Ariana. That being said I don't find it too far fetched for Ariana and Selena to do a performance together.
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So many things wrong with this picture.

1. Ariana Grande is dressed like she is signing at a club, not a funeral.

2. The Bishop was groping her.

Images show Bishop Charles H Ellis III holding Ariana high above her waist, with his fingers squeezed around the side of the singer's chest.

"It would never be my intention to touch any woman's breast," he told the Associated Press.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-45381687
 
Bucky said:
Ariana Grande last album has done much better than Selena Gomez's last album, and this is despite the fact Gomez's album was put out in 2015. The numbers are telling.

IMO Selena Gomez produces BETTER music but Ariana Grande has a better voice.

This has more to do with Gomez's record label and the DJ, producers, etc.

Grande's music is a bit too commercial. If she can produce more substantive music, she would be unstoppable.
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The point is this. If you ask me Miley Cyrus is a big joke. Even when you take into account just her singing she's a joke. Yet Ariana did do a collaboration with her. You might not think Selena is the best singer in the world but even she is better than Miley. So if Ariana will do a collaboration with Miley, even as bad as she is, than its not much of a stretch for her to do a collaboration with Selena and it would be an improvement.
 
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