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Gotta take those selfies! From Fox:

The unidentified woman was at The 14th Factory for the “Hypercaine” installation when she appeared to crouch down in front of one of the displays for a photo and fall backwards, video of the incident shows.
The tumble set off a domino effect, knocking over at least 10 rectangular pedestals holding sculpted crowns and other headpieces.

A spokeswoman for The 14th Factory told Fox News in an email that three sculptures were permanently destroyed, while others were partially damaged. The reckless selfie, which happened two weeks ago, caused about $200,000 in damage. Woman's selfie causes $200,000 of damage to LA art exhibit | Fox News

Video's at the link. Unbelievable.
 
I have already indulged in two Andy Rooney cranky old man rants for today ---- sadly my quota has been used up or I would advocate the crucifixion of this mindless dolt.
 
So now art will be even more walled off from the public, weakening the place of art in this society. This is what societal breakdown looks like.
 
I hate people who take selfies...
 
Hawkeye10 said:
So now art will be even more walled off from the public, weakening the place of art in this society. This is what societal breakdown looks like.
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Well, I hope you're wrong. The coarsening of society continues, but education can help the obliviots. At least I hope so. In the '90's I was touring Swan House in Atlanta, and the docent had just explained how delicate the imported silk wallpaper was and why it was so important not to touch it, and this idiot woman with Aqua-Netted hair just leaned her head right on it.

I hadn't found my voice then. I think I have now. Oh, and if I see you trying to touch a work of art, I'm going to snitch you off too. Museum behavior is already bad enough with all the people filming the art with their stupid cell phones rather than enjoying it.:twisted:
 
nota bene said:
Well, I hope you're wrong. The coarsening of society continues, but education can help the obliviots. At least I hope so. In the '90's I was touring Swan House in Atlanta, and the docent had just explained how delicate the imported silk wallpaper was and why it was so important not to touch it, and this idiot woman with Aqua-Netted hair just leaned her head right on it.

I hadn't found my voice then. I think I have now. Oh, and if I see you trying to touch a work of art, I'm going to snitch you off too. Museum behavior is already bad enough with all the people filming the art with their stupid cell phones rather than enjoying it.:twisted:
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The coarsening of society, increasing risk aversion, increasing idiocy, liability law which demands that every last step be taken for "SAFETY!" with no care for costs, insurance companies being the deciders.....I figure that I am right.
 
As easy as it is to hate some selfie taking airhead, maybe multi thousand dollar art and exhibits should be set up where 1 person cant fall on it and domino the whole thing?

Sure the exhibit owners didnt keep the atmosphere like this on purpose hoping for an insurance payout;? I mean I doubt it but you never know.
 
nota bene said:
Gotta take those selfies! From Fox:

The unidentified woman was at The 14th Factory for the “Hypercaine” installation when she appeared to crouch down in front of one of the displays for a photo and fall backwards, video of the incident shows.
The tumble set off a domino effect, knocking over at least 10 rectangular pedestals holding sculpted crowns and other headpieces.

A spokeswoman for The 14th Factory told Fox News in an email that three sculptures were permanently destroyed, while others were partially damaged. The reckless selfie, which happened two weeks ago, caused about $200,000 in damage. Woman's selfie causes $200,000 of damage to LA art exhibit | Fox News

Video's at the link. Unbelievable.
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Oops. Oh well.

Perhaps she didn't destroy the art, but rather added yet more art to it? Could be a performance art piece now, couldn't it?
 
Just saw this on the news this morning. People really need to think about what they are doing. Accidents happen I know, but don't invite them!
 
nota bene said:
Gotta take those selfies! From Fox:

The unidentified woman was at The 14th Factory for the “Hypercaine” installation when she appeared to crouch down in front of one of the displays for a photo and fall backwards, video of the incident shows.
The tumble set off a domino effect, knocking over at least 10 rectangular pedestals holding sculpted crowns and other headpieces.

A spokeswoman for The 14th Factory told Fox News in an email that three sculptures were permanently destroyed, while others were partially damaged. The reckless selfie, which happened two weeks ago, caused about $200,000 in damage. Woman's selfie causes $200,000 of damage to LA art exhibit | Fox News

Video's at the link. Unbelievable.
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I suspect insurance fraud. $200,000 worth of damage my ass. Also how convenient one of the pedestals with this expensive art was so easily knocked over and geeze set up for a domino effect... yeah right. Guaranteed the "selfie" taker is in cahoots with the artist(s) who probably couldn't give their art away, let alone sell it for $200k.

My bull**** detector is going full bore on this one.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
As easy as it is to hate some selfie taking airhead, maybe multi thousand dollar art and exhibits should be set up where 1 person cant fall on it and domino the whole thing?

Sure the exhibit owners didnt keep the atmosphere like this on purpose hoping for an insurance payout;? I mean I doubt it but you never know.
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I don't doubt it for a moment.
 
Museums need to simply ban all phones and cameras.


So ****ing annoying to try to actually look at something while a succession of assholes poses in front of it or walks up within two feet to take a picture, the walk away. They don't even seem to care about what they're looking at, just about cataloguing that they were in fact standing there.
 
Mr Person said:
Museums need to simply ban all phones and cameras.


So ****ing annoying to try to actually look at something while a succession of assholes poses in front of it or walks up within two feet to take a picture, the walk away. They don't even seem to care about what they're looking at, just about cataloguing that they were in fact standing there.
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You know, it's the cataloging rather than participating that bugs me the most. I waited a lifetime to see Zurbaran's "Agnus Dei" and wanted only to stand in front of it and drink it in. (Still waiting for Bosch's triptych, which includes the "Garden of Earthly Delight.") Why film it and only enjoy it second-hand when you're actually there?
 
Mr Person said:
Museums need to simply ban all phones and cameras.


So ****ing annoying to try to actually look at something while a succession of assholes poses in front of it or walks up within two feet to take a picture, the walk away. They don't even seem to care about what they're looking at, just about cataloguing that they were in fact standing there.
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nota bene said:
You know, it's the cataloging rather than participating that bugs me the most. I waited a lifetime to see Zurbaran's "Agnus Dei" and wanted only to stand in front of it and drink it in. (Still waiting for Bosch's triptych, which includes the "Garden of Earthly Delight.") Why film it and only enjoy it second-hand when you're actually there?
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Exactly.

And it's true a few times over, since all the major works can be found on multiple sources online. Most museums have well-taken photos of each work one can download. These are typically better shots than someone will get with their smartphone.

And if someone wants a high-quality large picture, they can buy a poster or even a reproduction.





Drives me up the wall to see people going around photographing everything without even looking. The worst I've seen was in Chicago's museum.
 
Winchester said:
I suspect insurance fraud. $200,000 worth of damage my ass. Also how convenient one of the pedestals with this expensive art was so easily knocked over and geeze set up for a domino effect... yeah right. Guaranteed the "selfie" taker is in cahoots with the artist(s) who probably couldn't give their art away, let alone sell it for $200k.

My bull**** detector is going full bore on this one.
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My, what a cynic! I wonder if you're right.
 
Mr Person said:
Exactly.

And it's true a few times over, since all the major works can be found on multiple sources online. Most museums have well-taken photos of each work one can download. These are typically better shots than someone will get with their smartphone.

And if someone wants a high-quality large picture, they can buy a poster or even a reproduction.

Drives me up the wall to see people going around photographing everything without even looking. The worst I've seen was in Chicago's museum.
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The worst I've seen was the Prado exhibit. I was astonished. I do have a reproduction of "Agnus Dei," BTW. But seeing it--being in its presence--was enthralling.

So maybe we're talking about Philistines here. ;)

Back to the topic and in musical terms, there is a difference between being gauche and not knowing any better than to applaud at the end of a movement and in breaching the stage and grabbing an instrument. (I once mishandled an extremely expensive bow made of pearwood for a viola da gamba and have never recovered from my mortification.)
 
Maybe she will get a reality show
 
The selfie did not cause the damage, her falling into the display caused the damage.
 
nota bene said:
You know, it's the cataloging rather than participating that bugs me the most. I waited a lifetime to see Zurbaran's "Agnus Dei" and wanted only to stand in front of it and drink it in. (Still waiting for Bosch's triptych, which includes the "Garden of Earthly Delight.") Why film it and only enjoy it second-hand when you're actually there?
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You can do both, you know?

I actually went to the High here in Atlanta last week. Took lots of pictures, stayed for hours. Had a blast.
 
Your Star said:
You can do both, you know?

I actually went to the High here in Atlanta last week. Took lots of pictures, stayed for hours. Had a blast.
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Negative. Taking pictures is a mirco-affirmity of wishing you were in heaven.
 
Would it have been more acceptable if she got down to tie her shoe and fell over causing the same end result?

Or, are we just displaying more internet arrogance because "selfies" are beneath us.

I think selfies are lame, too, but seriously...
 
The whole point of art is that it's interpretive and it evokes different things in different people. That includes how people interact with it. Unless photos are damaging the art (like photography flashes can sometimes do), I don't see the point in banning museum photography. A lot of the pieces are historical and I feel like photography is one way of distributing the intellectual property so that it's not only viewable within a museum setting. I consider selfies in museums to be a form of curation.

Think about the centuries of art viewership. The nobles used to sit around sipping tea and wine while admiring pieces that the serfs never had access to. Now everyone can access them, more or less. The selfie phenomenon is temporary and a part of our maturing (or degenerating) technological culture. Most things tend to work in circular trends. Eventually it will be counter-culture to not take selfies at all.

Also? Everyone hates selfies, until they're the ones taking them :p
 
Northern Light said:
The whole point of art is that it's interpretive and it evokes different things in different people. That includes how people interact with it. Unless photos are damaging the art (like photography flashes can sometimes do), I don't see the point in banning museum photography. A lot of the pieces are historical and I feel like photography is one way of distributing the intellectual property so that it's not only viewable within a museum setting. I consider selfies in museums to be a form of curation.

Think about the centuries of art viewership. The nobles used to sit around sipping tea and wine while admiring pieces that the serfs never had access to. Now everyone can access them, more or less. The selfie phenomenon is temporary and a part of our maturing (or degenerating) technological culture. Most things tend to work in circular trends. Eventually it will be counter-culture to not take selfies at all.

Also? Everyone hates selfies, until they're the ones taking them :p
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I agree but i would never go to a museum to take pictures unless someone was paying me to catalouge it. Or maybe if i felt a huge bond to once piece of art and wanted to flaunt. The people at concerts taking cell phone videos are kinda lame but not really, kinda like lost souls. But then again not really. Because it doesnt take that much energy to forget about your phone and hold it there if you are honestly loving the event.
 
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