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Well, this takes guts...

Tanngrisnir said:
Your inability to stand up to the direct implications of your own statements duly noted.

When I asked you who had been blackballed and couldn't find work after having at performed at the inauguration, you came back with a lot of irrelevancies and couldn't name anyone.

Sorry you're forced to retreat from your own statements.
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Again putting words in my mouth.
I never stated that after performing at the inauguration performers were black balled.

Quote a post of mine that contains that sentence. Until you can, it's little more than you fevered imagination.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I disagree. Trump voters were voting for a great vision of what America should be.
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A police state?

Hillary voters were voting to put a Democrat back in office even if it had to be Hillary. As long as she had a D after her name and could beat a Republican, she was the one.
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If that was true, she would have won.
 
eohrnberger said:
Again putting words in my mouth.
I never stated that after performing at the inauguration performers were black balled.

Quote a post of mine that contains that sentence. Until you can, it's little more than you fevered imagination.
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Yawn. It was the direct implications of your statement.

You're not fooling anyone but yourself.

Again, good luck with your magical thinking.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I disagree. Trump voters were voting for a great vision of what America should be.

Hillary voters were voting to put a Democrat back in office even if it had to be Hillary. As long as she had a D after her name and could beat a Republican, she was the one.
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And you don't think Republicans would have voted for anyone with an R after their name to stop another 4 years of Obama type policies? What you are saying is true of Democrats but also Republicans.

Politics have become so partisan it's driving me crazy. I'd easily vote for a moderate Republican over an extreme Democrat. My one big hope for the Trump presidency is that he acts like a forest fire, and a new healthier forest will grow in its place.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Yawn. It was the direct implications of your statement.

You're not fooling anyone but yourself.

Again, good luck with your magical thinking.
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Your interpretation and extrapolation aren't backed up by the sentences actually posted.

Again, good luck with your fevered imagination.
 
eohrnberger said:
Your interpretation and extrapolation aren't backed up by the sentences actually posted.

Again, good luck with your fevered imagination.
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Yes, they are, to any rational adult.

Sorry you couldn't back up your own statements.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Yes, they are, to any rational adult.

Sorry you couldn't back up your own statements.
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Two unrelated statements about unrelated events, and you're calling it adult to freely intermix them?

Oh, you can do better than that.

Clearly, the first was a casual wager about a future outcome, and the other was a comment about how viscous the pressure from groups and individuals on certain performers NOT to perform at Trump's inauguration.

And not only that, it was shown how Hollywood, i.e. the entertainment industry, black balls conservatives.

You insisting that I produce data to document how entertainers at Trump's inauguration are now black balled, as if there's an official public list. :roll:
 
eohrnberger said:
Two unrelated statements about unrelated events, and you're calling it adult to freely intermix them?

Oh, you can do better than that.

Clearly, the first was a casual wager about a future outcome, and the other was a comment about how viscous the pressure from groups and individuals on certain performers NOT to perform at Trump's inauguration.
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Zzzzzz... dodge and duck all you'd like; I'm simply not interested in anything other than reality.

Sorry you couldn't back up your own statements or honestly answer what I asked you.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Zzzzzz... dodge and duck all you'd like; I'm simply not interested in anything other than reality.

Sorry you couldn't back up your own statements or honestly answer what I asked you.
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Gee. Who posted it? Who would know what was meant by it more so than anyone else?

Sorry, but I'm here to set you straight, and to tell you that you are wrong.
 
eohrnberger said:
Gee. Who posted it? Who would know what was meant by it more so than anyone else?

Sorry, but I'm here to set you straight, and to tell you that you are wrong.
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Stomp your feet all you'd like.

It won't change the fact that you ran from the implications of your statements.

Sorry you couldn't back up your own statements or honestly answer what I asked you.
 
JC Callender said:
Joy Villa in Pro-Trump Gown on Grammys 2017 Red Carpet | Pret-a-Reporter

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Good for her!
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snowflake SJW's went off on her in the social media sphere.


SO tolerant: SJWs brutally attack Joy Villa on Twitter for daring to wear #MAGA dress to Grammys – twitchy.com




She's brilliant btw, she's banking on a backlash to catapult her career, I doubt she's really that big a trump supporter.


Joy Villa's Grammy Trump Dress Boosts Album Sales | Billboard


Boom, there it is. good for her.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Stomp your feet all you'd like.

It won't change the fact that you ran from the implications of your statements.

Sorry you couldn't back up your own statements or honestly answer what I asked you.
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I cannot be held responsible for your incorrect deductions of implications that weren't there.
 
Nomad4Ever said:
And you don't think Republicans would have voted for anyone with an R after their name to stop another 4 years of Obama type policies? What you are saying is true of Democrats but also Republicans.

Politics have become so partisan it's driving me crazy. I'd easily vote for a moderate Republican over an extreme Democrat. My one big hope for the Trump presidency is that he acts like a forest fire, and a new healthier forest will grow in its place.
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For sure, Republicans would have voted for any of the 17 Republican candidates running to stop Hillary. But the fact is they did not choose the establishment, status quo Republicans but chose Trump hated pretty much equally by the left and by those establishment Republicans. Why? Because he is not an establishment politician. He is non partisan. No ideologue. What he offered that nobody else did was a vision plus a track record for getting things done. And he insisted on playing by his rules instead of those dictated to him.

So the vote was definitely a break from partisanship and was in hope of breaking the status quo.
 
I watched some of the Grammy's and I didn't see this person on camera once.

I wonder why that was.
 
AlbqOwl said:
For sure, Republicans would have voted for any of the 17 Republican candidates running to stop Hillary. But the fact is they did not choose the establishment, status quo Republicans but chose Trump hated pretty much equally by the left and by those establishment Republicans. Why? Because he is not an establishment politician. He is non partisan. No ideologue. What he offered that nobody else did was a vision plus a track record for getting things done. And he insisted on playing by his rules instead of those dictated to him.

So the vote was definitely a break from partisanship and was in hope of breaking the status quo.
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It was definitely breaking the status quo, that part I don't mind.

I don't think it was a break from partisanship in a way. Yeah Trump isn't ingrained in the republican party, but I wouldn't exactly brand him as compromising.

What I mean by that is I bet if we sat down and talked we would be able to find a lot of common ground on issues and come to agreements we both thought were fair, whereas Trump's style is his way or the highway.
 
Nomad4Ever said:
It was definitely breaking the status quo, that part I don't mind.

I don't think it was a break from partisanship in a way. Yeah Trump isn't ingrained in the republican party, but I wouldn't exactly brand him as compromising.

What I mean by that is I bet if we sat down and talked we would be able to find a lot of common ground on issues and come to agreements we both thought were fair, whereas Trump's style is his way or the highway.
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And I don't see him that way at all.
 
AlbqOwl said:
And I don't see him that way at all.
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Well, fair enough. I'd like to know however what examples you know of where he was compromising and flexible. From what I've seen he has been pretty unyielding in every position he takes. He has even said himself that he going to be a hardliner in the White House just like he's been in his career. But maybe I am just stuck in my bubble?
 
Nomad4Ever said:
Well, fair enough. I'd like to know however what examples you know of where he was compromising and flexible. From what I've seen he has been pretty unyielding in every position he takes. He has even said himself that he going to be a hardliner in the White House just like he's been in his career. But maybe I am just stuck in my bubble?
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Well we can't have it both ways can we? Half of the Trump haters claim he lies and doesn't mean anything he says. And the other half say he is a hardliner who won't listen to anybody and will be rash and bullheaded.

I see him as a man who has a goal and formulates a way to get there as he goes. And I do believe he consults with many people with expertise or knowledge that he lacks as any good CEO would.
 
Nomad4Ever said:
Well, fair enough. I'd like to know however what examples you know of where he was compromising and flexible. From what I've seen he has been pretty unyielding in every position he takes. He has even said himself that he going to be a hardliner in the White House just like he's been in his career. But maybe I am just stuck in my bubble?
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I think what he was referring to was that Trump is actually pretty moderate. The media has labeled him this ultra right wing guy but mostly he is a center-left life long Democrat. He simply picked just enough right wing policies and people around him to win over the Republicans.
 
Nap said:
I think what he was referring to was that Trump is actually pretty moderate. The media has labeled him this ultra right wing guy but mostly he is a center-left life long Democrat. He simply picked just enough right wing policies and people around him to win over the Republicans.
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I do realize he was a democrat before and he isn't exactly a traditional republican. The thing is the policies he does have are extreme. If we take him at his word, and it is looking like we should so far, pretty much everything he has talked about doing is extreme. Deport all illegal immigrants. Build a huge wall. Ban Muslims from entering the country. Get rid of the EPA ect ect. He doesn't say stuff like, "Well, I think we should tighten up the gaps in our border security." So while he isn't extreme right, he still seems pretty uncompromising to me, which is what I was referring to.
 
Nomad4Ever said:
I do realize he was a democrat before and he isn't exactly a traditional republican. The thing is the policies he does have are extreme. If we take him at his word, and it is looking like we should so far, pretty much everything he has talked about doing is extreme. Deport all illegal immigrants. Build a huge wall. Ban Muslims from entering the country. Get rid of the EPA ect ect. He doesn't say stuff like, "Well, I think we should tighten up the gaps in our border security." So while he isn't extreme right, he still seems pretty uncompromising to me, which is what I was referring to.
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Outside of the EPA, the rest aren't exactly extreme positions. Most polls shows the immigration and Muslim Ban stuff is pretty mainstream and to an extent bipartisan. I have heard many liberals that even support it, I think a majority disagree with the way he goes about it but it is less to do with policy and more about how he is rolling it out.
 
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