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Fear the Walking dead, season two

Question: why do they need to worry about getting into Mexico...how could anyone be protecting borders at this point?
Indeed. What we have been told about the outbreak would certainly indicate that it isnt localized and that by the time it became made manifest it would already have spread across the planet.
 
I still don't get why they left the island (the bird sanctuary). They were already protected by fencing and the island had plenty of resources to make that fence unassailable by the dead. The dead would eventually stop washing up to shore, they're not great swimmers to begin with. The theme park of the dead contained plenty of good stuff to use for the future and there weren't going to be more dead there. They could easily play the attrition game with the existing dead. They had fresh water, good conditions and plenty of growing space.
 
The helicopter is CG.

It's all CGI

The coast guard owns many small craft like seen in the preview

But why does the USCG want to keep people out of Mexico? :confused: The Mexican's want to keep people out of Mexico which is why MEXICO CLOSED THE BORDER - hence the picket line south of the border line. USCG has its own problems - this already established on the show.

And the Mexican navy has many small boats too.

BTW

This episode had by far the best character development of any so far - so why is everyone obsessing over unknowable details like the military response?
 
Question: why do they need to worry about getting into Mexico...how could anyone be protecting borders at this point?
Because apparently it's safe. I have no ****ing idea how the Mexican authorities were able to seal the border.
 
But why does the USCG want to keep people out of Mexico? :confused: The Mexican's want to keep people out of Mexico which is why MEXICO CLOSED THE BORDER - hence the picket line south of the border line. USCG has its own problems - this already established on the show.

Maybe the U.S and Mexican Governments are working together? Idk. It's possible.

This episode had by far the best character development of any so far - so why is everyone obsessing over unknowable details like the military response?

Because the military is a very interesting aspect in apocalyptic scenarios like this. It's something that intrigues me greatly, just as much as the character development. I've always loved to speculate what the military and the government is up to in senarios like this.
 
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I still don't get why they left the island (the bird sanctuary). They were already protected by fencing and the island had plenty of resources to make that fence unassailable by the dead. The dead would eventually stop washing up to shore, they're not great swimmers to begin with. The theme park of the dead contained plenty of good stuff to use for the future and there weren't going to be more dead there. They could easily play the attrition game with the existing dead. They had fresh water, good conditions and plenty of growing space.
Well it wasn't their place to begin with, and I doubt that kid would have willingly allowed them to stay after what happened.

And plus, at that point they were heading towards San Diego, before they knew it was napalmed.
 
Maybe the U.S and Mexican Governments are working together? Idk. It's possible.

Because the Military is a very interesting aspect of apocalyptic scenarios like this. It's something that intrigues me greatly, just as much as the character development. I've always loved to speculate what the Military and the government is up to in senarios like this.

That's as may be, but at this point its not really part of the show. All we know is what our cast members know in their tiny little insulated world.
 
That's as may be, but at this point its not really part of the show. All we know is what our cast members know in their tiny little insulated world.
But the military was a part of this show at a point in time, and their obviously still around. So it's just fun to speculate, which is basically all we can do right now anyways.
 
Well it wasn't their place to begin with, and I doubt that kid would have willingly allowed them to stay after what happened.

And plus, at that point they were heading towards San Diego, before they knew it was napalmed.

Yeah, I get that. But that might not have happened had they chosen to stay. And the San Diego plan was stupid even before they knew it was bombed. Heading to where there are more people is suicide in the zombie outbreak.
 
Yeah, I get that. But that might not have happened had they chosen to stay. And the San Diego plan was stupid even before they knew it was bombed. Heading to where there are more people is suicide in the zombie outbreak.
Yeah I probably would have stayed on the island too. Maybe they thought San Diego was safe, but they should of looked back at LA and rethought their end goal.
 
Yeah I probably would have stayed on the island too. Maybe they thought San Diego was safe, but they should of looked back at LA and rethought their end goal.

I think they're still in shock and they want to find a safe community.

Strand, clearly, wants to be reunited with a loved one.
 
But the military was a part of this show at a point in time, and their obviously still around. So it's just fun to speculate, which is basically all we can do right now anyways.

Only within the context of what was happening in a 4 block radius. Our cast still know almost nothing about what was going on the other side of the fence. They know there were riots and chaos, and the power went out, then the military showed up and put them behind a fence. Then the military left and blew :censored all out of everything. That's what they know.

BTW -

The island was untenable as the town was full of the breathing impaired, the fence as we saw was :censored and there was a mysterious and possibly armed boat after them, likely with armed boarding parties. San Diego was Strand's plan because Strand has a plan. He wants to go south. San Diego is south. Strand's rendezvous is south, near San Diego.

Context people, context.
 
I think they're still in shock and they want to find a safe community.

Strand, clearly, wants to be reunited with a loved one.
Does Strand want to be reunited with Luis Abigail, or does he just want to be safe? It may be a possibility that Strand is just using Luis as a means to an end.
 
Only within the context of what was happening in a 4 block radius. Our cast still know almost nothing about what was going on the other side of the fence. They know there were riots and chaos, and the power went out, then the military showed up and put them behind a fence. Then the military left and blew :censored all out of everything. That's what they know.

BTW -

The island was untenable as the town was full of the breathing impaired, the fence as we saw was :censored and there was a mysterious and possibly armed boat after them, likely with armed boarding parties. San Diego was Strand's plan because Strand has a plan. He wants to go south. San Diego is south. Strand's rendezvous is south, near San Diego.

Context people, context.

Well we knew more than what was happening more than just a 4-Block radius. The California National Guard was deployed as a response to the mass rioting ensuing in downtown LA. And from what Luis Abigail stated, rioting was erupting all throughout the country.

The military established safe-zones within the LA Basin area, quarantining the remaining civilian population.

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And when Madison slipped away to the outside of the fence, she found out that the military was killing people who didn't turn or at least didn't appear to be infected.

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Travis also found out that the military was busy clearing out places of infected, such as with the library.

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And during the S1 Finale they found out about how the military massacred 2,000+ civilians in a stadium that were apparently infected.

So maybe they didn't know everything that the military was doing/planning, but they had a pretty good idea what was going on outside the fences (at least Madison, Travis, Strand, and Liza did).

And BTW, I completely forgot about the boat chasing after them from the premiere. My bad.
 
Indeed. What we have been told about the outbreak would certainly indicate that it isnt localized and that by the time it became made manifest it would already have spread across the planet.

agreed, that completely threw me, on the other hand, maybe they are just assuming they need papers to get into Mexico
 
well only the oasis they are heading to was safe at that time is what I thought...not all of Mexico
That's probably the more likely scenario. Surely Mexico couldn't have secured all of it's territory.
 
I will say it should be obvious to the world by this point that the infection (at least the initial infection) is already worldwide, and that they themselves are infected as well.
 
I will say it should be obvious to the world by this point that the infection (at least the initial infection) is already worldwide, and that they themselves are infected as well.
Yeah there's no way it's not worldwide at this point. But how the rest of the world is handling the infection I have no idea.
 
I still don't get why they left the island (the bird sanctuary). They were already protected by fencing and the island had plenty of resources to make that fence unassailable by the dead. The dead would eventually stop washing up to shore, they're not great swimmers to begin with. The theme park of the dead contained plenty of good stuff to use for the future and there weren't going to be more dead there. They could easily play the attrition game with the existing dead. They had fresh water, good conditions and plenty of growing space.

aside from the threat of the mystery ship, you mean?
I agree though otherwise. You anchor in the harbour, please really loud music to attract the mobile walkers. Shoot them once so they don't bloat and float. Shark frenzy. Rinse repeat whenever walkers are spotted on shore. An island, especially a large one like Catalina, would be ideal. The down side is that everyone with a decent brain will think of it too.
 
So this was a pretty interesting Mid-Season Finale!

Really liked the horror elements. Really don't get that from TWD much anymore.
 
So this was a pretty interesting Mid-Season Finale!

Really liked the horror elements. Really don't get that from TWD much anymore.

lol...we posted at the same time, yes I agree

too bad to lose Daniel though, he was a complex character

I didn't watch Fear the Talking Dead though since it didn't come on until after Preacher which I missed most of too because I fell asleep. zzzzz
 
lol...we posted at the same time, yes I agree

too bad to lose Daniel though, he was a complex character

I didn't watch Fear the Talking Dead though since it didn't come on until after Preacher which I missed most of too because I fell asleep. zzzzz
Did Daniel die? I don't believe they confirmed his death on the Talking Dead.

And you know how there's this unspoken rule for these type of shows if you don't see the body, then they are most likely still alive. I mean just look back at what happened with Merle and Glenn.

But overall I did think this was a great episode. Celia was a great villain, loved her actress. But regardless, I still have my gripes with the episode. I think Daniel and Nick went a bit too crazy, too fast.
 
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