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Declining US Casualty Rate

Polish Rob said:
Ignorance is bliss eh?
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How is that ignorance? You can find tallies for exactly how many police forces are dying each day. He's arguing that it's better for their forces to bear the brunt of the attacks because

a) It takes the heat off our troops
b) It drives it home to the average Iraqi that the "insurgents" are not fighting the American's for Iraqi freedom, they are fighting any form of authority that does not permit them to terrorize the populace.

These are two of the most important things that can happen.
 
RightatNYU said:
How is that ignorance? You can find tallies for exactly how many police forces are dying each day. He's arguing that it's better for their forces to bear the brunt of the attacks because

a) It takes the heat off our troops
b) It drives it home to the average Iraqi that the "insurgents" are not fighting the American's for Iraqi freedom, they are fighting any form of authority that does not permit them to terrorize the populace.

These are two of the most important things that can happen.
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You clearly dont see things from other perspectives do you.
 
Polish Rob said:
We would have never won Vietnam. China would have done the same thing that they did to us in Korea.
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Your 18 years old huh.......Hell I got guns older then you........Your totally clueless ehen it comes to Nam....I was there.........We did not try to win in Nam...The suits in Washington would not let us..............We never lost a battle there but we lost the war....

Read up on your history sonny.........
 
Polish Rob said:
You clearly dont see things from other perspectives do you.
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Provide one and I'll consider it.

I haven't seen much yet though.
 
RightatNYU said:
a) It takes the heat off our troops
b) It drives it home to the average Iraqi that the "insurgents" are not fighting the American's for Iraqi freedom, they are fighting any form of authority that does not permit them to terrorize the populace.

These are two of the most important things that can happen.
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Give that man a Cigar.....Ignorance....heh
 
Who cares about dead soldiers, it's their job to die. Besides, it's a lot cheaper than loosing my tax money on planes or ships.
 
DD7 said:
Who cares about dead soldiers, it's their job to die. Besides, it's a lot cheaper than loosing my tax money on planes or ships.
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It's their job to kill the enemy. It's the enemy's job to die. Let's look at some other retarded posts from you...





Topic: Chinese death penalty
DD7 said:
Must be dirt cheap to just shoot them and harvest their organs.

There's just too much waste of taxpayers money in America.
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Topic: Afghan Man faces death penalty for being Christian
DD7 said:
Oh wait, he's a catholic, then I don't care. If he was a Baptist then that's another story.

In any case, we should have a law in America banning false religions and teach the words of Jesus chirst. (Baptism).
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How Christian of you.







Topic: 'Marriage is for White People'

DD7 said:
Who cares, it's just a subculture thing from the good old days of slavery when some lucky guys could impregnante loads of chicks on stud farms and then be sent home to massa.
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More Christianity? Someone isn't going to last long around these parts.



....retard.
 
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RightatNYU said:
Seems like we're doing a pretty decent job of shifting the burden more and more to the Iraqi forces.
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Your pic isn't working.

Your statement is misleading. Attacks aren't down, but Iraq seems to be more concerned with killing each other these days, while our troops try to dodge the bombs and bullets.

We seem to be in a position of trying to police a civil war. How do you define victory under those circumstances? If we stay, more Americans dead, more money diverted from Homeland Security and finding OBL, more antagonizing of the Iraqis that hate us. If we leave, Iraq devolves into total chaos.

Now the pres is saying that future administrations will have to deal with it! So obviously we're there until at least 09.

I really can't see a good solution for Iraq; it's lose/lose.
 
DD7 said:
Who cares about dead soldiers, it's their job to die. Besides, it's a lot cheaper than loosing my tax money on planes or ships.
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Idiot....take your opinions elsewhere please. There's no room for that kind of talk here.
 
DD7 said:
Who cares about dead soldiers, it's their job to die. Besides, it's a lot cheaper than loosing my tax money on planes or ships.
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These guys that are dying are doing so to give you the right to make stupid statements like you just made...

I doubt if you would make that statement to the face of any military person......I know I would put my size 12 boot up your ***........
 
Navy Pride said:
These guys that are dying are doing so to give you the right to make stupid statements like you just made...

I doubt if you would make that statement to the face of any military person......I know I would put my size 12 boot up your ***........
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Damn, size 12? I have a size 8, but I bet it will hurt just as bad.
 
tryreading said:
I said it is an improvement. But still, more soldiers died this quarter than the first quarter of 2004.
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Geez you really had to dig to go back two years ago didn't you. But is it good news? It's much less than the first quarter of 2005 isn't it. March 2006 is about half of what March 2004 was.
 
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Much of the reason for the decline is that the insurgency is not the prevalant enemy of Iraq anymore. While their are still Radical Muslims who come across the border to commit suicide for their god, the local Sunni extremists has taken center stage and is quite content slaughtering and murdering their own people. Of course by "their own people," I refer to Iraqis. There was a time when the local Sunnis were fighting the insurgents in defense of fellow Sunni victims. However, with the isurgency backing off from killing Sunni, the locals have turned their tantrums on Shi'ites. Welcome to the culture.

It is of note to recognize that the last thing any Arab and Persian elite and any sectorial Radical Mullah in the region wishes to see in Iraq, is a western inspired democracy where all sects co-exist and recognize basic human rights as they embrace the future. Today's sectorial violence is every bit being influenced by Muslims living elsewhere who need the mundane controlling aspects of Islam to maintain their comfortable lives and oppressive domains.
 
RightatNYU said:
Something you probably wouldn't hear if you were only listening to the media telling us how everyone hates the war which is going so badly: The casualty rate is dropping like crazy.

US Casualties in the Iraq War:

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Barring any catastrophe in the last 6 days in March, this will be the 5th month in a row since October in which casualties decreased. In addition, this will have been the month with the fewest casualties since February 2004. This comes in the midst of continually shifting power to the Iraqi national forces.

http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx

Seems like we're doing a pretty decent job of shifting the burden more and more to the Iraqi forces.
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The casualty rate is dropping like crazy?

Whatever happened to the 'coalition of the willing' and the 'joint Iraqi-US forces'?

If you look at casualty figures for the Iraqi police and army the numbers are rocketing up not down...another 40 recruits blown up today for starters.

Sure the US numbers are going down....the situation is blowing up right in front of us and we're letting the Iraq police and army take the brunt of it.

I think we're quite correct to do this but to say that 'the numbers are going down' is ignoring the wider picture of the ever increasing chaos which is Iraq today.

Progress = attacks on all US + Iraqi forces going down not just the US forces avoiding all the troubles by staying in their bases.

N.B If you want to do a good job of shifting the burden onto the Iraqis we could just leave.
 
G-Man said:
The casualty rate is dropping like crazy?

Whatever happened to the 'coalition of the willing' and the 'joint Iraqi-US forces'?

If you look at casualty figures for the Iraqi police and army the numbers are rocketing up not down...another 40 recruits blown up today for starters.

Sure the US numbers are going down....the situation is blowing up right in front of us and we're letting the Iraq police and army take the brunt of it.

I think we're quite correct to do this but to say that 'the numbers are going down' is ignoring the wider picture of the ever increasing chaos which is Iraq today.

Progress = attacks on all US + Iraqi forces going down not just the US forces avoiding all the troubles by staying in their bases.

N.B If you want to do a good job of shifting the burden onto the Iraqis we could just leave.
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The thread title is "Declining US Casualty Rate."

The ultimate fix is to treat these people as they live. If Arab Sunnis wish to live in the past, then we should employ the tactics of old that guaranteed a longing peace - slaughter the problem.

However, our "politically correct" world will not allow such a solid military action. Today, we do not have the stomach for it. Tomorrow, when the terrorists discover the full potential of a suicide bomber and they start sending them in waves on American cities, we may. Radical Islam will grow as this civilization continues to fail.
 
RightatNYU said:
Something you probably wouldn't hear if you were only listening to the media telling us how everyone hates the war which is going so badly: The casualty rate is dropping like crazy.

US Casualties in the Iraq War:

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Barring any catastrophe in the last 6 days in March, this will be the 5th month in a row since October in which casualties decreased. In addition, this will have been the month with the fewest casualties since February 2004. This comes in the midst of continually shifting power to the Iraqi national forces.

http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx

Seems like we're doing a pretty decent job of shifting the burden more and more to the Iraqi forces.
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Your a lying neocon warmonger that gets ALL your information form Biased warmongering news sources. Were dying there dying everyones dying... Theres no way its going ok and thats all there is to it. And I will hold my breath and talk in circles until you believe my side. :rofl
 
It is so sad that there are people on the left in this country that are saddened by the fact that our casualties are going down in Iraq.........That should make every American happy but some of our friends on the left put their blind partianship a head of everything else.............
 
Navy Pride said:
It is so sad that there are people on the left in this country that are saddened by the fact that our casualties are going down in Iraq.........That should make every American happy but some of our friends on the left put their blind partianship a head of everything else.............
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Who has said they are saddened about it?
 
RightatNYU said:
Something you probably wouldn't hear if you were only listening to the media telling us how everyone hates the war which is going so badly: The casualty rate is dropping like crazy.

US Casualties in the Iraq War:

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Barring any catastrophe in the last 6 days in March, this will be the 5th month in a row since October in which casualties decreased. In addition, this will have been the month with the fewest casualties since February 2004. This comes in the midst of continually shifting power to the Iraqi national forces.

http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx

Seems like we're doing a pretty decent job of shifting the burden more and more to the Iraqi forces.
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Been unplugged for a week..That is great news...Thanks for the info..
 
Stinger said:
Geez you really had to dig to go back two years ago didn't you. But is it good news? It's much less than the first quarter of 2005 isn't it. March 2006 is about half of what March 2004 was.
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The person who began this thread posted that data. It was on the first post. You obviously 'dug' also. I was making the point that this short term situation may not last, and though it is good news, many more of our people will die in Iraq.

http://icasualties.org/oif/RadContr...art1&imageFormat=Png&random=0.342373989681887
http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx
 
GySgt said:
The thread title is "Declining US Casualty Rate."

The ultimate fix is to treat these people as they live. If Arab Sunnis wish to live in the past, then we should employ the tactics of old that guaranteed a longing peace - slaughter the problem.

However, our "politically correct" world will not allow such a solid military action. Today, we do not have the stomach for it. Tomorrow, when the terrorists discover the full potential of a suicide bomber and they start sending them in waves on American cities, we may. Radical Islam will grow as this civilization continues to fail.
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Yeah, too bad we don't have someone like Himmler in charge of our "democratization" campaign, eh?

I can't believe you would write a post like this.
 
Iriemon said:
Yeah, too bad we don't have someone like Himmler in charge of our "democratization" campaign, eh?

I can't believe you would write a post like this.
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and who would that be?:confused:
 
Iriemon said:
Yeah, too bad we don't have someone like Himmler in charge of our "democratization" campaign, eh?

I can't believe you would write a post like this.
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See what I mean? Today's "PC" sickness can't stomach the tactics that Radical Islam will eventually leave us to consider. Get with reality, son. The world you want to exist, doesn't.

Do not look for answers in recent history, which is still unclear and subject to personal emotion. Look to Rome. It is the nearest model to the present-day United States. Mild with subject peoples, to whom they brought the rule of ethical law, the Romans in their rise and at their apogee were implacable with their enemies. The utter destruction of Carthage brought centuries of local peace, while the later empire's attempts to appease barbarians consistently failed.
 
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