And you take it as gospel because you are not an Obama supporter.
Take what as gospel? I have reviewed the facts of the matter. The campaign doesn't even deny that their relationship existed as you continue to do.
I am an Obama supporter, but I certainly don't think he is above criticism.
Who said you thought that?
I think that he's a hypocrite just as any politician is.
Okay.
I'm saying that I think the evidence presented thus far on the subject is flimsy.
But as you already stated before, you don't care what the evidence says. Hence, why do you continue pretending that you're actually a good faith participant here?
I'm not discounting the fact that it could be true. Even if it were true, I could care less.
Exactly. So if you don't care why do you demand evidence of a relationship. This is explicit intellectual dishonesty. You're arguing about the nature of the evidence when you won't accept any evidence at all.
It still wouldn't change my opinion because I don't classify Ayers as a terrorist.
Wow! :shock: Ayers ain't a terrorist?
And that's your opinion and you are more than welcome to it.
It's a fact! Obama admits the relationship exists. The Obama campaign admits there was a relationship that supposedly ended in 2005.
WTF??!!
I don't know, and I really don't care. As I said before, the Ayers thing isn't an issue for me. I don't consider him to be a terrorist. You do, and that's your opinion.
Again, wow!!
You must have a creative definition of terrorist...in fact, in your mind Tim McVeigh was also not a terrorist, eh?
I don't deny that they knew each other.
Well, that's generous.
However, I think the McCain campaign is insinuating that there was more of a relationship there and I think that the evidence that they have presented thus far is flimsy.
You're full of it. What do you think that McCain is insinuating? You keep referring to it but you won't actually say what you think it is.
Yes, that's my opinion. I could care less whether you agree with it or not.
The facts do not agree with your opinion and what you've stated is that you don't care about the facts.
You're a dishonest poster.
I'm not denying that it could be a possibility. I'm saying that the evidence presented thus far is flimsy. I've said it many many times and I'll repeat it until you understand.
WTF?? You not denying the possibility of what?
So far you've said not only that you don't think there was a relationship ("I personally would need to see more to believe that there was a relationship.") while also maintaining that there has been a relationship.
Make up your mind.
As well, why do you pretend that evidence matters? You've clearly indicated that evidence doesn't matter?
Because I think it's rather obvious that they are trying to imply something by attempting to prove that there was a relationship.
But I thought you just said, "I don't deny that there may have been a relationship of some form."???
So what is there to prove as you claim the McCain is attempting to do?
You don't even know what you're saying, do you?
I think that in order to prove there was a relationship they will need much more evidence than they have provided thus far. Again, that is MY OPINION.
But you already conceded that there was a relationship. My God, man, in the same post you argue with yourself...
I'm not putting my head in the sand at all.
Stating that the facts don't matter and that you don't care about the facts is sticking your head in the sand.
From what I've seen of your posts you just can't stand when someone has a different opinion than you.
:rofl Are you serious?
You're dissembling, lying, and constantly changng your argument. I call you out on it and all you have is more dissembling, lying, intellectual dishonesty and you have the audacity to say I'm picking on you because I disagree with you.
Fool, the facts disagree with you.
Obama disagrees with you.
This is why you keep trying to create an argument where there is none.
This is nuts!
You keep saying that there was a relationship but then turn around and say there was no relationship. You're right, then, there is no argument there... :rofl
Exactly and if it is true I don't blame him for not acknowledging it because it's a smart political move not to.
But he has acknowledged it...what don;t you get about that?
Just the other night I heard Bill O'Reilly say that he wants to know the full extent of their relationship because he's worried that Obama would give Ayers a cabinet position.
What does that have to do with your constantly-changing position of whether there was a relationship or your insistence that facts don't count?
You and I may not find those types of arguments reasonable or logical, but there are a lot of people out there who are scared of that very thing. I think that is one of the major reasons that Obama wouldn't be forthcoming about their relationship if there truly more there than has been made apparent already.
Riiight.
It couldn't possibly have anything to do with Ayers being an unrepentent terrorist and Obama's longtime relationship with him causing concern about Obama's judgment, eh? Nothin at all, right? :roll:
No, I don't. There may have been more of a relationship there. I have yet to see some legit evidence to point to that. All I've seen are the same tired talking points and oversimplified reasoning. That may be enough for you to draw a conclusion, but I need more than that.
It demonstrates that for you and that's fine.
Clown, Obama has already acknowledged this fact that his relationship with Ayers extended beyond merely being a neighbor.
You're as dense as the hardest rock on earth.
Acknowledging a relationship on one hand while denying it on the other hand is lying.
I'm trying, clown. You constantly shift between relationship/no relationship that I can barely keep up.
If my views on the subject aren't clear enough to you by now there's nothing more I can do for you.
You're not even clear on your own view.
Evidence:
I don't deny that there may have been a relationship of some form.
And then in the same post:
I personally would need to see more to believe that there was a relationship.
You cannot keep up with yourself... :rofl
Take a break. Get out of the basement. Get some fresh air.
