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Local Atheist Demands Evidence For God, Besides Entire Universe | The Babylon Bee

“Without pointing to the millions of blatantly obvious pieces of evidence for His existence all around us, please demonstrate logically how there is some all-powerful God out there,” Peterson wrote. “I want to be convinced. Just point to one thing—just one thing—that proves there is a Creator, without talking about creation at all.”
 
Explain how the universe is evidence for God. This should be interesting.

How is the universe evidence for God? Can you show me the model? That statement is the logical fallacy known as 'begging the question'.

Other than the fact that it exists at all?

And no, that's not what begging the question is, unless you think that saying the universe exists is an assumption.
 
Other than the fact that it exists at all?

And no, that's not what begging the question is, unless you think that saying the universe exists is an assumption.

No, I am saying that you have not shown that the universe existing shows that God exists.. you have not described WHY that has to be so.. You are merely making an assumption based on your own personal belief.

Why is the existence of the universe evidence of God?
 
Atheist evangelists are just as obnoxious as the religious ones.
I mean, who gives a damn what they do or don't believe? It's kind of childish, this insistence that everyone agree with their beliefs.
 
Other than the fact that it exists at all?

Like RAMOSS said, we are asking you to show how the universe proves God's (or a creators) existence.

So far, there is no credible evidence to prove that a God (or a higher power) exists.
 
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No, I am saying that you have not shown that the universe existing shows that God exists.. you have not described WHY that has to be so.. You are merely making an assumption based on your own personal belief.

Why is the existence of the universe evidence of God?

That's the breaks. It's not as if you haven't heard it enough times.

I have too much to do this weekend to get into an argument over what your own scriptures (and science!) clearly say, I just thought it was a funny piece.
 
He and everyone else will get their proof soon enough.

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Claiming people will get proof enough is not showing that the universe is evidence of God. As someone of the Jewish faith, I do not accept the claim that Christ has the seat of Judgement.
 
Like RAMOSS said, we are asking you to show how the universe proves God's (or a creators) existence.

So far, there is no credible evidence to prove that a God (or a higher power) exists.

Ramoss knows exactly what I am talking about, you can look up the Kalam Cosmological argument.
 
That's the breaks. It's not as if you haven't heard it enough times.

I have too much to do this weekend to get into an argument over what your own scriptures (and science!) clearly say, I just thought it was a funny piece.

In other words, you don't seem to be able to answer that question. That site does not appear to be very well written, but it is full of snark.
 
Claiming people will get proof enough is not showing that the universe is evidence of God. As someone of the Jewish faith, I do not accept the claim that Christ has the seat of Judgement.

You don't believe your own scriptures when they say that God created the Heavens and the Earth?
 
In other words, you don't seem to be able to answer that question. That site does not appear to be very well written, but it is full of snark.

It's a humor piece, roll with it.
 
Like RAMOSS said, we are asking you to show how the universe proves God's (or a creators) existence.

So far, there is no credible evidence to prove that a God (or a higher power) exists.

I have no credible evidence to prove that you exist either, you could be one of those spambots that I have have to swear that I am not one of when I sign into some websites. But even scientists make certain assumptions, and you are most likely a human being, but I have no concrete proof of it.
 
Claiming people will get proof enough is not showing that the universe is evidence of God. As someone of the Jewish faith, I do not accept the claim that Christ has the seat of Judgement.

Nor should you.

However, Jews supposedly believe God is the Creator and there is only one God.
 
Yes, I understand that you are referring to the flawed First Cause agrument.

Then roll with it, like I said, this was a joke piece. Why is it that every time I say something like "there is a God" someone has to act like I slapped their mother?
 
That's the breaks. It's not as if you haven't heard it enough times.

I have too much to do this weekend to get into an argument over what your own scriptures (and science!) clearly say, I just thought it was a funny piece.

In other words, you don't seem to be able to answer that question. That site does not appear to be very well written, but it is full of snark.
 
Nor should you.

However, Jews supposedly believe God is the Creator and there is only one God.

There is a difference between believing God is the Creator, and there is only one God, and having the universe as evidence for that God. You do know that, don't you?
 
There is a difference between believing God is the Creator, and there is only one God, and having the universe as evidence for that God. You do know that, don't you?

I'm not an expert on Judaism;

I referenced this.

What does Judaism Believe?

You gave me the impression you didn't believe in any God in the past.
 
Then roll with it, like I said, this was a joke piece. Why is it that every time I say something like "there is a God" someone has to act like I slapped their mother?

There is a difference between saying 'There is a God', and stating 'The universe is evidence for God'
 
There is a difference between saying 'There is a God', and stating 'The universe is evidence for God'

What is it? What does anyone care either way that they have to take it personally?
 
No actual atheist would frame such a question by "admitting" the existence of evidence in the preamble. It's a ridiculous fake story.
 
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