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Oh get off your high horse. The complaint about Bush is that he served in the TANG instead of volunteering for Viet Nam, if you are going to critisize him then you critisize everyone who volunteer for NG. <----No it wasn't. It was about Bush. Are you a professional liar or do you just play one on the internet. LIAR.
Deal with it. <---What if I say no?
And you don't know jack about. <---Obviously I do. I just don't swallow the GWB load like you do. Tell me, do you carry his picture in your wallet?
Kiss off. <---Awwww, I hurt him wittle feelings.
Yes he was. <---Yeah I know, I said it remember? :roll:
Bull <---No, truth.
Bull<---See above.
Going in, and only the best of the best got in. Straw man. <---Bullshit, his daddy pulled some favors. There was a year and a half waiting list and he was put at the head of it even though he had the lowest possible entry score you could have. He, like Clinton, used his family connections to avoid service in Vietnam and to avoid much of his service state side. The truth isn't near as tasty as Bush's man juice is it?
His record was within the requirements of his service. <---No, it was unsatisfactory. His absences were documented by his commanders. He just wasn't disciplined. Why? Because of his daddy.
And no one proved otherwise and he fulfilled his duty. <---You might talk to his fellow airman and commanders who didn't know where the **** his *** was on training days. Hmmmm.....
You are just a whiner. <---I'd like to see a vote on this one. Personally I believe that your delusional belief in GWB's outstanding military record and your juvenile defense thereof makes you out to be more of a whiner.
He fulfilled his duty as required.<---Not according to his attendance records. Doh...YOU GOT OWNED BIATCH! :lol:
If you can't prove otherwise, you don't have a leg to stand on. But the fact is his record shows he had all the points he needed. <---The records also show he didn't attend the appropriate amount of training, and his fellow airman can't seem to recall training at all for the majority of his time in the units to which he was assigned. Hmmm....something smells fish...something doesn't pass the smell test...hmmmm.....
What's funny is how the Bush haters had to resort to phony memo's to try and prove anything. <---I didn't resort to a phony memo, nobody here did that I can recall. Hmmm....are you sweating as you type this?
SO WHAT!!!!!!!!
He was not full time active duty get your facts straight. <---Nor was he attending his mandatory training with the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Montgomery. His supervisors there confirmed this. Hmmmm.....
Bottom line he was not. <----Uh, yes he was. OWNED YOU!!!!!
Your service has nothing to do with what you know about Bush. <---Yes it does and you're fat!
They weren't flying his plane any more, they were rotating it out as active duty pilots were being transfered to reserve along with thier F4's, it made no sense to but a reserve pilot back through trained when they had an over abundance of pilots. <---Lol...that is rich. So any other excuses as to why Bush wasn't flying? I mean other than the fact that he transfered to a non-flying unit and then never attended training.
You didn't know that did you. <---What difference would that make, he didn't show up to begin with. The more you type the more you paint this guy as a bigger ***** than he actually was. "My Georgie was brave...the only weason he didn't fwy his awopwane was cuz they were meanie heads and wouldn't wet him cause he was in da weserves." Whatever. Keep clawing.
You don't volunteer for heart disease, you don't volunteer for cancer. <----Apparently you didn't see the fact that I bolded the odds for motor vehicle accident and air travel accident. Pay attention here Stinger.
I have provide an authoritative source for exactly how dangerous the Delta Dagger was YOU are not an authority in the matter YOUR opinion means ZIP. <---Yeah, you pointed out the Delta Dagger was a dangerous plane to fly. Goodie for you Stinger. Here is your cookie. Now let's get back to the argument at hand. Your asinine assertion that Bush was somehow a brave fighter pilot who served satisfactorily in the TXANG...lol...what a hoot!
They didn't need him and didn't have a plane for him to fly. <---He voluntarily transfered to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group which had no planes. Then he never showed up for training. Hmmm.....he was such a brave pilot wasn't he!
We all know that, there is no need for you to keep repeating it, and it is a moot point. HE WAS NOT A FULL TIME MILITARY. And it you knew anything about the military at the time you would know that there was an abundance of Viet Nam active duty pilots being rotated to reserve status to end our their military duty and the reserve pilots were not need nor were they going to be trained to fly F4's it made no sense to do so. <---I know plenty about the military at that time. Wanna have a true debate about the military during the Vietnam war? I'm game. Me vs. you smart guy? Quit dancing around the fact that Bush didn't show up for his training in Alabama and he didn't show up for training initially when he returned to Texas. Regardless of what the military was doing at the time he had an obligation to train. He did not fulfill that obligation.
Because you keep denigrating their service, Bush was no different from any of them, when you insult him you insult them. <---STRAWWWWW MAN KING!!!!!! Sorry buddy boy, that don't fly. Bush was very much different than national guard pilots who did their duty and showed up when required. When I insult him, I insult him. You suck at this, no wonder you are in the top five for Asshat of the Year. When in doubt, lie about the other poster!
Your post. <---Oh good one!!!!! You sooooo got me!
Yes. <---No, it was an academic achievement. Prove otherwise.
He didn't succeed did he. <---He didn't fail either. He chose to return to Yale to complete his education. He became a Professor of Law! Weak sauce, but par for the course here.
Why? And provide a cite. <---Because he was no longer in danger of being drafted and wanted to finish his education in the States. Oxford was a convenience for him. You need to provide a source that actually backs you up. Let me save you the time though, there isn't one. I don't have to prove he didn't flunk out, you have to prove he did.
He qualified through his political connections and then couldn't finish. <---Bullshit partisan hackery. Totally baseless and you know it. You have absolutely no proof of this. The most common explanation is simply that Clinton returned to the states because he was no longer in danger of being drafted. It's very distasteful but it's the truth.
Since Kerry and Gore did worse what do you call them? Do you have an MBA from Yale? <---Kerry and Gore demonstrate a much higher level of intellectual capability than Bush ever has. So I call them pretty smart. And what difference does it make as to whether I have an MBA or not? My GPA for my college studies were much higher than Bush's. But what does that have to do with anything?
Kerry lost every debate just as Gore did. <---Hardly. That is just your opinion.
The whole industry in TX and LA collapse during that period, I was there. <---Right.
It's not subjective at all, he was a highly respected govenor on both sides of the isle. <---No he wasn't. He was criticized quite frequently for his double speak regarding education and property tax issues. Just to name a couple. Just a taste of some of the criticisms he recieved.
OH kiss off, just because you arguments are without merit don't stoop to the invective. <---Not invective, just an intelligent observation on my part.
In all our discussions I am the only one who provides evidence and cites to back up what I say, so speak for yourself. <---Bullshit, you provided a link to the Delta Dagger. Big ****ing deal. You logic in how you use your citations and your flawed reasoning in your defense of GWB's military record nullify any credibility you think your sources attribute to you.
Here go educate yourself and try chilling out a little before you respond.
Bush Served Honorably - GW Bush Not AWOL - TANG Evaluations of Lt. Bush
<---Yay, nothing like citing the very documents that have been called into question for their content, given the fact that Bush was frequently absent from training? Hmmmm.......
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You wonder why nobody outside the Gang of Five takes you seriously?
Snopes article debunking the OP.
Bill Clinton from Groilers "The American Presidency."
More about Bill.
Yet more about Bill...still no mention of his flunking out of Oxford nor anything about him getting his Rhodes scholarship from a political appointment. Hahahah.
Here is some more about the man. Mysteriously absent is any mention of his "flunking" out of Oxford.
And here is the Wiki on Billy Boy. I looked but couldn't find any mention of him flunking or getting his Rhodes scholarship from any political appointment.
Background on GWB's military career. From Straight Dope.
A little more about Georges military record.
And a FeeRepublic Article just to balance it out.