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Homeschooling

Roberdorus

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With public education in the gutter, more and more people are opting to homeschool their children.

My question is: What do you think about homeschooling?
 
Roberdorus said:
With public education in the gutter, more and more people are opting to homeschool their children.

My question is: What do you think about homeschooling?

A Viable Alternative, but a hell of alot of work.....ask me again in 10 yrs.
 
My personal experience from having known and worked with formerly home-schooled people is that they are, to a person, uniquely unsuited for real life.
They tend to be nervous, break down easily under stress.
They tend to get sick constantly.
I don't know if this is a result of never having been exposed to most of the contagions that others of us encounter at school as children, or what.
They tend to lack social skills and have no ability to resolve conflicts with peers and superiors.
However, this is only my personal experience, based on a small random sampling of formerly home-schooled people I've encountered over the years.
It's meaningless, even as anecdotal evidence, because for all I know every one of them might have also been abused, or had a chemical imbalance, or had some other weird factor in their lives which contributed to their growing up to be dysfunctional adults.
The empirical and statistical data I've seen seems to suggest that home-schooled kids turn out as well as or better than public school-educated kids, more or less on par with children who attend good private schools.
 
My children attended public schools but without homeschool in addition I doubt they would have learned to read and write.
 
I think it sucks.

Why do you think it sucks?
I think it's perfect. Sure, it divides the people a little, but so what? If you want to spend a lot of money on an education, you can have a great teacher, and therefor learn much more.
But if you're poor, well then... Too bad for you :lol:

Seriously now, i don't see the downside of it. There is still a choice between going in a regular school, and homeschooling. If you are rich, then be my guest study home for lots of money, and if you are poor, study in a regular school. I think this is brilliant
 
Why do you think it sucks?
I think it's perfect. Sure, it divides the people a little, but so what? If you want to spend a lot of money on an education, you can have a great teacher, and therefor learn much more.
But if you're poor, well then... Too bad for you :lol:

Seriously now, i don't see the downside of it. There is still a choice between going in a regular school, and homeschooling. If you are rich, then be my guest study home for lots of money, and if you are poor, study in a regular school. I think this is brilliant

In my experience, homeschooling is mainly the province of the white, fundamentalist, conservative, blue-collar working class.
"Rich" people generally send their children to reputable private schools.
The poor of all races, of course, usually attend public.
 
My personal experience from having known and worked with formerly home-schooled people is that they are, to a person, uniquely unsuited for real life.
They tend to be nervous, break down easily under stress.
They tend to get sick constantly.
I don't know if this is a result of never having been exposed to most of the contagions that others of us encounter at school as children, or what.
They tend to lack social skills and have no ability to resolve conflicts with peers and superiors.
However, this is only my personal experience, based on a small random sampling of formerly home-schooled people I've encountered over the years.
It's meaningless, even as anecdotal evidence, because for all I know every one of them might have also been abused, or had a chemical imbalance, or had some other weird factor in their lives which contributed to their growing up to be dysfunctional adults.
The empirical and statistical data I've seen seems to suggest that home-schooled kids turn out as well as or better than public school-educated kids, more or less on par with children who attend good private schools.

More and more colleges and universities are recognizing the skills of the homeschooled. It is no longer a disadvantage but rather an advantage to be a homeschooler when applying.
I homeschooled my daughter the whole way. She just started college at 16. She scored in the top 3 percentile of all applicants at her chosen school. Notice I said chosen, because there were four schools that accepted her.
The drawback I found was that the vast majority of homeschool support groups are religion based and generally run by Whackos.
My daughter is in no way anti social or shy. She has been brought up to live in the real world and to interact with all age groups. She is comfortable in her own skin and that is the ultimate test of social adjustment.
Having homeschooled her is the most important thing I have ever done or ever will do.
This social retardation argument is a kneejerk response by most folks when the subject of homeschooling is broached. It is patently false!
Also, the avoidence of the bullying and moronic pressures put upon youngsters as they struggle against the tide to learn in the public school system is, in and of itself, reason enough to give it a try.
be forewarned however, it is hard! You must totally dedicate yourself and keep you eyes on the prize, but the prize is considerable. :2razz:
 
I home schooled for about 1/4 of a year and it was good, mostly because i did it for half a day and then went skateboarding for the rest of the time. However i don't think someone should do it for their whole school career because they'll have lost out on social skills, but whatever works for the certain individual.
 
I home schooled for about 1/4 of a year and it was good, mostly because i did it for half a day and then went skateboarding for the rest of the time. However i don't think someone should do it for their whole school career because they'll have lost out on social skills, but whatever works for the certain individual.

Again, with all due respect, that social skills argument is not legit. Homeschoolers learn to deal with all age levels with emphasis on adults. After all, we deal with adults for most of our lives. I find them to be MORE well adjusted than those masses who've been brutalized in the public schools. I see more walking wounded among her public schooled friends. Homeschooled kids are almost without exception, more mature and better able to handle social situations than their so-called mainstreamed counterparts.
 
Again, with all due respect, that social skills argument is not legit. Homeschoolers learn to deal with all age levels with emphasis on adults. After all, we deal with adults for most of our lives. I find them to be MORE well adjusted than those masses who've been brutalized in the public schools. I see more walking wounded among her public schooled friends. Homeschooled kids are almost without exception, more mature and better able to handle social situations than their so-called mainstreamed counterparts.

Yeah, but they don't have social skills with the kids their age, like if you've spent most of your time around adults you're not going to act like a kid. The few kids I've met who've been homeschooled for a long period of time, I'm not making a generalization 'cause I've only met a few, but they've been pretentious and annoying. However, if they could mix with kids through sports, camps or something like that then I'd be all for it. Also, I'm from Canada so the Public school is in better shape because we have fewer private schools, and we have massive funding from the federal government.
 
More and more colleges and universities are recognizing the skills of the homeschooled. It is no longer a disadvantage but rather an advantage to be a homeschooler when applying.
I homeschooled my daughter the whole way. She just started college at 16. She scored in the top 3 percentile of all applicants at her chosen school. Notice I said chosen, because there were four schools that accepted her.
The drawback I found was that the vast majority of homeschool support groups are religion based and generally run by Whackos.
My daughter is in no way anti social or shy. She has been brought up to live in the real world and to interact with all age groups. She is comfortable in her own skin and that is the ultimate test of social adjustment.
Having homeschooled her is the most important thing I have ever done or ever will do.
This social retardation argument is a kneejerk response by most folks when the subject of homeschooling is broached. It is patently false!
Also, the avoidence of the bullying and moronic pressures put upon youngsters as they struggle against the tide to learn in the public school system is, in and of itself, reason enough to give it a try.

Also anecdotal I could easily tell you about my kid...
He scored in the top 1% of all of the United States, he was ranked 9th in the state for his sport, he was class president and he volunteered at the local humane society and worked two jobs. He's never been bullied and we taught him to have confidence in himself so he never fell for any peer pressure.
So there you go public schools work.:roll:

It depends on the child, some respond better to different teaching methods, some like my kid have a natural talent for learning, some like the social aspects of school, some don't. The best thing to do is to decide for your kid (objectively) which method of education is better for him/her. But I only think very well educated parents should home school. I also think the parents abilities should be tested regularly.
And so you can help your kid, homeschooled is not a word, it's home schooled or home-schooled. Same rule applies to knee jerk (or knee-jerk) and it's avoidance not avoidence.:2razz:
 
Also anecdotal I could easily tell you about my kid...
He scored in the top 1% of all of the United States, he was ranked 9th in the state for his sport, he was class president and he volunteered at the local humane society and worked two jobs. He's never been bullied and we taught him to have confidence in himself so he never fell for any peer pressure.
So there you go public schools work.:roll:

It depends on the child, some respond better to different teaching methods, some like my kid have a natural talent for learning, some like the social aspects of school, some don't. The best thing to do is to decide for your kid (objectively) which method of education is better for him/her. But I only think very well educated parents should home school. I also think the parents abilities should be tested regularly.
And so you can help your kid, homeschooled is not a word, it's home schooled or home-schooled. Same rule applies to knee jerk (or knee-jerk) and it's avoidance not avoidence.:2razz:


Thanks for the corrections, I noticed a few errors in grammar in your post, but I won't do what you just did. Pretense and arrogance are not my style.
Glad your kid is doing well, but I didn't intend my post to be a contest.
 
Actually I was being sarcastic. That's why I put the smiley icon afterwards. I'm sorry if your feelings were hurt. And no it's not a contest but parents get offended when a "public school" person gives anecdotal evidence but they do it themselves. I am sure there are grammatical errors in my post but considering English isn't my first language I'm not too worried about it.
And if you read the whole post, I do say IF the parents are well educated and the child would benefit from one kind of education as opposed to the other then that's what they should do. . the problem with both public and home education is that many parents don't objectively decided what is best for the kid, they decide what is best for themselves.
Home schooling has gotten a bad name from those parents who use it as a political statement or who use it to isolate their child from outside influences and those children are unprepared for the real world. That is the fault of the parents though not the home schooling. I do think there needs to be regulations and stringent testing of the parents ability to teach, especially when the kids get to advanced course like physics or calculus.
 
Why do you think it sucks?
I think it's perfect. Sure, it divides the people a little, but so what? If you want to spend a lot of money on an education, you can have a great teacher, and therefor learn much more.
But if you're poor, well then... Too bad for you :lol:

Seriously now, i don't see the downside of it. There is still a choice between going in a regular school, and homeschooling. If you are rich, then be my guest study home for lots of money, and if you are poor, study in a regular school. I think this is brilliant

Hey Vic!.. I agree with you to a certain level!
If a family have the money to do homeschooling and all the familymembers agreee on doing it, then sure!..but you can't say that there are no negative sides. I think the a public school not only educates the children in the different subjects, but also in social competense. They learn how to be social and nice to eachother and that is important. I think homeschooling could provide these children from learning about the society in a practical way, and I think it could also make them unable to get a really good social competense. I have never been homeschooling and I've never known anyone who has done it, but anyway what I just wrote is what I believe! ;-)

Adios Amigos!
 
Public Schools, Private Schools, and parents are not equal and it's a decision that cannot be universally applied.
 
Again, with all due respect, that social skills argument is not legit. Homeschoolers learn to deal with all age levels with emphasis on adults. After all, we deal with adults for most of our lives. I find them to be MORE well adjusted than those masses who've been brutalized in the public schools. I see more walking wounded among her public schooled friends. Homeschooled kids are almost without exception, more mature and better able to handle social situations than their so-called mainstreamed counterparts.


I disagree completely. With the danger of sounding inflammatory, in almost every instance in my experience, individual who have been home-schooled are "Socially retarded".
Growing up, there were several families in my area that were home-schooled. A couple of them went to my church and others I knew from the area. As kids in the neighborhood we would sometimes play together, but I always noticed that there was something a little "weird" about all of these kids. At the time I was never able to figure it out, but after growing up I am almost certain that it had to do with home-school. I say this because I work with a few people who were home-schooled. Although they are intelligent (we are all attorneys for LA County), socially they all have issues and tend to not interact comfortably in a larger social setting. Again, I attribute this to their home-schooling because again, they all have the same attributes.
There is something to be said about diversity and exposure to differing views, lifestyles and life experiences. This is why our Jury System is based on bringing people from different communities together to form "one mind" in forming a verdict.
Without exposure to a vast number of views you become entrenched in one mindset and you are limited socially as a result. Anyone who home-schools their children is doing their child a disservice.
 
I think every child should be home schooled, because learning does not and should not begin when the child walks into school and end when the child walks out. Every parent should be involved in teaching his or her child everything possible, from life skills like dealing with money to practical skills like snaking a drain or changing the oil in a car to academic skills like good notetaking or breaking down math problems.

That being said, the best advantage of public (or private) schools is that the students learn certain skill sets from different teachers, who have different perspectives, methods, and specialties to share. If a child is homeschooled from start to finish, he or she would not gain this, and it is invaluable, IMO. If anything relates to the idea of social retardation, it is probably this; kids who learn from a variety of teachers, and see a variety of students, learn to deal with a variety of people; students who learn by themselves from one person do not learn to acclimate to different people, with strengths and weaknesses, and how to sift through the chaff to find the grain -- something we all have to do with pretty much every person we deal with. I would think that homeschooled children come into any learning situation with a hardwired set of expectations, and I doubt that they would be as capable of adapting as would public school-educated students.

The best education comes from everyone; the best students are those who try to find whatever they can learn from anyone and everyone around them, including their parents, including their peers, including their teachers. The best argument for homeschooling is that the greater academic rigor and personal attention and support helps students to achieve at a higher level; this should tell us that we should promote smaller class sizes and higher academic standards in public schools -- exactly the factors that make private schools more successful, as well. If all the evidence points to these two factors as vital to academic success, the important question is: why don't we have these things in public schools?
 
The best education comes from everyone; the best students are those who try to find whatever they can learn from anyone and everyone around them, including their parents, including their peers, including their teachers.

Absolutely!
My theories on education and knowledge are, "When you're ready for the lesson, the correct teacher will present him/herself."

And: "Seek, and ye shall find."

I understand we're discussing formal education here, but really... why must learning ever stop? Especially when there are so many wonderful books and so many clever people in the world (not to mention, the internet!).
Learning can be a life-long process.
In fact, if it's not, there's a problem.
 
i think that people should send their kids to public school, but also educate them at home. A lot of people who were fully homescholed end up without social skills and tend to make little mistakes that could have been ironed ot with more peer-interaction.
 
I homeschool five of my children. I enjoy it.
 
Yeah, but they don't have social skills with the kids their age, like if you've spent most of your time around adults you're not going to act like a kid.

I don't think that is a fair argument for a number of reasons. First off, many home-schooled students have co-op classes, field trips, parties, and Physical Education classes with other home schooled students.

But learning good social skills goes beyond the classroom. And there are some social skills that a child can pick up at some public schools that are detrimental to the child.

I think every family needs to consider there specific circumstances and make the best decision for their family.
 
I'd go with Asterix, homeschooling makes you miss out on the social bit.

That of course if you filthy rich parents that wont allow you to go to a public school has any time to bring you out in the real world.

Pros to Asterix for being a skater

Justagurl: How often do they have classes together? How many are they? How likely is it that the students are spread amongst different "social classes"?

How likely is it that these classes would widen their perspectives and views?
 
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With public education in the gutter, more and more people are opting to homeschool their children.

My question is: What do you think about homeschooling?

I think it is important for children to meet others and to work with other children:

The school is to get the children ready for the big scary:)afraid:) world and if the children dont know how to work with strangers, then they are IN BIG TROUBLE!
 
I think it is important for children to meet others and to work with other children:

The school is to get the children ready for the big scary:)afraid:) world and if the children dont know how to work with strangers, then they are IN BIG TROUBLE!

I disagree.

The role of the school is to EDUCATE children, not SOCIALIZE them. There are benefits, to be sure, of learning how to work in a group...but school is not the only place this lesson can be learned.
 
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