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    Re: Diablo 4, are you ready?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishking View Post
    Yes, I'd say that's a good summary. D4 looks like it might go back to things that made D2 great but with a little more. However, D4 might be years away so those other games are a good option while waiting. PoE is free to download and play and operates mostly off of cosmetic microtransactions that I've never felt the need to buy.
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    Yeah....there are like 8 or 10 classes to choose from and then you can choose to multiclass into your choice from the rest of the remaining ones, meaning there are a lot of combos that can be created.
    Alright, consider me sold on both. One more question, though: do you get to edit your character's appearance in Grim Dawn at all?
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    Re: Diablo 4, are you ready?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    I picked up Diablo 3 a few years back, and it just never hooked me - I also didn't make it very far in before stopping, for various college related reasons. I'm curious what you guys like about it so much; I was considering trying the game out again this weekend after seeing that announcement.
    Diablo 3, not much. Diablo 2, despite the dated graphics, was dope(as the kids these days say). Diablo 1 too, but it has not aged as well.
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    Re: Diablo 4, are you ready?

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    So what I'm hearing is, I came into the series on a low note? What dropped in quality about D3?
    Mostly everything. Diablo 2 had a nice variety of classes, each of which played really different from each other, with a ton of builds that again where much different, to the point where two sorceresses could play completely differently. Add in a grim story, great mood, diverse level designs(see Act 3), a really good expansion and you have a winner. It was hard, but not unfairly hard.

    The big thing though will always be the variety of ways to play. A barbarian whirl-winding through tons of foes is completely different from a summoner build of a necro with a hoard of minions doing the fighting, which is nothing like healing paladin build, which is nothing like an amazon with her bow(or javalins), which is yet again nothing like a meteorb sorceress(my all time fav build). That variety is almost unmatched in games these days.
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    Re: Diablo 4, are you ready?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Mostly everything. Diablo 2 had a nice variety of classes, each of which played really different from each other, with a ton of builds that again where much different, to the point where two sorceresses could play completely differently. Add in a grim story, great mood, diverse level designs(see Act 3), a really good expansion and you have a winner. It was hard, but not unfairly hard.

    The big thing though will always be the variety of ways to play. A barbarian whirl-winding through tons of foes is completely different from a summoner build of a necro with a hoard of minions doing the fighting, which is nothing like healing paladin build, which is nothing like an amazon with her bow(or javalins), which is yet again nothing like a meteorb sorceress(my all time fav build). That variety is almost unmatched in games these days.
    They aren't even remotely similar, but that reminds me quite a bit of why I love the Soulsborne games so much. You wouldn't think that there's be so much difference between fairly similar weapons like broadswords, longswords & bastard swords, but there is a massive amount of variety in play styles in those games with a reasonably simple & straightforward combat system.
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    Re: Diablo 4, are you ready?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Damn you for making me feel old!

    Diablo 4 could hardly be worse than 3 was to me. I am going to wait until there is alot more detail before making a decision on it, but some of it looks decent. I worry that they are focusing on console play, which is never a good sign.
    The little bit of gameplay I saw didn't thrill me. It looked incrementally better than D3 but that isn't saying much.

    The Diablo franchise is all about the grind. That's not necessarily a bad thing but after 20 years one would think that maybe Blizzard would add something new.

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    Re: Diablo 4, are you ready?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    I picked up Diablo 3 a few years back, and it just never hooked me - I also didn't make it very far in before stopping, for various college related reasons. I'm curious what you guys like about it so much; I was considering trying the game out again this weekend after seeing that announcement.
    D3 I have yet to play. When it came out I wasnt interested because the necromancer wouldnt be included, but now they put him back in. Can anybody tell me if the necro play is the same as D2? I might pick it up if it is.

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    Re: Diablo 4, are you ready?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Damn you for making me feel old!

    Diablo 4 could hardly be worse than 3 was to me. I am going to wait until there is alot more detail before making a decision on it, but some of it looks decent. I worry that they are focusing on console play, which is never a good sign.
    Diablo 3 had an awful launch, it hit it's groove about a year after launch and then they ruined it with subsequent patches as they dumbed down the system considerably.

    In theory the Diablo 4 should be much improved since the developers say they are going back to the Diablo 2 model for characters and progression.

    I just want the atmospheric guitar noodling, damnit!
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    Re: Diablo 4, are you ready?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    D3 I have yet to play. When it came out I wasnt interested because the necromancer wouldnt be included, but now they put him back in. Can anybody tell me if the necro play is the same as D2? I might pick it up if it is.
    Editing this quick... forget what I typed and you don't have the time to read. Between all the pet classes and the right gear the Necro can have about 50 minions active at one time... still less than D2 if I recall, but significant enough to play like the old Necro, I think. Though I remember complaints that the minions were weak and you still had to do most of the killing yourself... but it's been years since I played.
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    Re: Diablo 4, are you ready?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    So what I'm hearing is, I came into the series on a low note? What dropped in quality about D3?
    D3 started low quality, but it had some basics of the diablo series and was able to be saved, however actiblizzard decided to dumb the game down to rng everything and darn near turn it into a game with no choices, or consequences, with a linear grind with builds all being prechosen through unmoiddable builds and gear even unique/legendary ending up being rng so most drops were geared to the one stat you needed plus health.

    The also never used other stats to any potential like in previous games, where certain stats were needed to equip gear or to affect skills/weapon damage, defense, attack rating etc.
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    Re: Diablo 4, are you ready?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Mostly everything. Diablo 2 had a nice variety of classes, each of which played really different from each other, with a ton of builds that again where much different, to the point where two sorceresses could play completely differently. Add in a grim story, great mood, diverse level designs(see Act 3), a really good expansion and you have a winner. It was hard, but not unfairly hard.

    The big thing though will always be the variety of ways to play. A barbarian whirl-winding through tons of foes is completely different from a summoner build of a necro with a hoard of minions doing the fighting, which is nothing like healing paladin build, which is nothing like an amazon with her bow(or javalins), which is yet again nothing like a meteorb sorceress(my all time fav build). That variety is almost unmatched in games these days.
    I preferred blizzorb over meteorb, more raw damage but less versatility. My favorite build was a whirlwind barbarian with bare minimum put into shout and instead maxing out leap, I could piss off an entire pvp game by stunlocking everyone 2-3 screens away by spamming leap, and slowly leap to them before the attack.
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