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Gaming, the lesson plan...

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OK, here is a thought experiment that I find interesting so maybe you all will too...

If you were going to take someone who says they are not into gaming (console or PC) but clearly they are addicted to games on their phone, what would be the step by step series of games that you would expose them to in order to fully drag them over to the dark side to the point where they are calling you in the middle of the work day for pointers on building their own PC?


(PS. Nerd is to Jedi as PC is to Lightsaber... the master builds their own)
 
OK, here is a thought experiment that I find interesting so maybe you all will too...

If you were going to take someone who says they are not into gaming (console or PC) but clearly they are addicted to games on their phone, what would be the step by step series of games that you would expose them to in order to fully drag them over to the dark side to the point where they are calling you in the middle of the work day for pointers on building their own PC?


(PS. Nerd is to Jedi as PC is to Lightsaber... the master builds their own)

Well all mobile games have a pc or console equivalent. So I’d find out what mobile games they play and start there
 
It might take some initial hand holding, but I don't think you can go far wrong with the Half Life series and Portal 2.
 
OK, here is a thought experiment that I find interesting so maybe you all will too...

If you were going to take someone who says they are not into gaming (console or PC) but clearly they are addicted to games on their phone, what would be the step by step series of games that you would expose them to in order to fully drag them over to the dark side to the point where they are calling you in the middle of the work day for pointers on building their own PC?


(PS. Nerd is to Jedi as PC is to Lightsaber... the master builds their own)

I don't think there is a one size fits all solution to that. Depends on what kind of mobile games the person is into. Some one playing the **** out of Minecraft is going to be after a different type game than some one playing Azur Lane, who will be different from some one playing solitaire. So I guess what you would do is find games that fit their interest in games, but on the PC.
 
OK, here is a thought experiment that I find interesting so maybe you all will too...

If you were going to take someone who says they are not into gaming (console or PC) but clearly they are addicted to games on their phone, what would be the step by step series of games that you would expose them to in order to fully drag them over to the dark side to the point where they are calling you in the middle of the work day for pointers on building their own PC?


(PS. Nerd is to Jedi as PC is to Lightsaber... the master builds their own)

That's not the dark side.

Try board gaming into wargaming. World in Flames; longest game I have been in took 23 days to finish. World War 2 carried on until 1947.
 
That's not the dark side.

Try board gaming into wargaming. World in Flames; longest game I have been in took 23 days to finish. World War 2 carried on until 1947.

Every try The Longest Day? Normandy invasions/breakout, 2km per hex, regiment level. Over 1000 counters. WE played it when I was in college, on a ping pong table. Setup and takedown was well over an hour, and we never finished the big campaign game.
 
I don't think there is a one size fits all solution to that. Depends on what kind of mobile games the person is into. Some one playing the **** out of Minecraft is going to be after a different type game than some one playing Azur Lane, who will be different from some one playing solitaire. So I guess what you would do is find games that fit their interest in games, but on the PC.

I realize it is not a one size fits all, but that is part of what makes it interesting.
 
That's not the dark side.

Try board gaming into wargaming. World in Flames; longest game I have been in took 23 days to finish. World War 2 carried on until 1947.

Don't know how old your are, but I was a fan of the old Avalon Hill box games (Panzer General, Squad Leader, etc.), which World in Flames appears to be a direct descendant. I played a lot of those games in my teens and 20s. Haven't played them in years, though.

My introduction to those games was playing simple games like Ogre and then moving up through the complexity of table top games.

Before I was smart I tried to introduce friends to table top war gaming by using Axis & Allies... most people can't make it through the setup of that game.
 
It might take some initial hand holding, but I don't think you can go far wrong with the Half Life series and Portal 2.

In my progression I would put Portal as the first step into FPS. If they stick with it long enough, that game teaches you a LOT of essential FPS skills hidden behind an insanely clever platform puzzler.
 
Don't know how old your are, but I was a fan of the old Avalon Hill box games (Panzer General, Squad Leader, etc.), which World in Flames appears to be a direct descendant. I played a lot of those games in my teens and 20s. Haven't played them in years, though.

My introduction to those games was playing simple games like Ogre and then moving up through the complexity of table top games.

Before I was smart I tried to introduce friends to table top war gaming by using Axis & Allies... most people can't make it through the setup of that game.

Squad Leader was ****ing awesome! Then ASL came along, and made it so any game session involved 2 hours of reading rules for a 5 minute turn...
 
I would tell them to … RUN!!!

Don't do it! You'll sink hours of your life into it, Hours you'll never get back.

And stay away from Boards … all of them. Why? Don't do it! You'll sink hours of your life into it, Hours you'll never get back for no real return.
 
Squad Leader was ****ing awesome! Then ASL came along, and made it so any game session involved 2 hours of reading rules for a 5 minute turn...

Yeah, I didn't spend much time with ASL for that reason. Also, for me, games like Axis & Allies needed a seasoned veteran running the show because the rules were also frustratingly vague, the opposite of ASL with the same effect of prolonging the game turns.
 
Don't know how old your are, but I was a fan of the old Avalon Hill box games (Panzer General, Squad Leader, etc.), which World in Flames appears to be a direct descendant. I played a lot of those games in my teens and 20s. Haven't played them in years, though.

My introduction to those games was playing simple games like Ogre and then moving up through the complexity of table top games.

Before I was smart I tried to introduce friends to table top war gaming by using Axis & Allies... most people can't make it through the setup of that game.

Yeah, if they can't get Axis and Allies then you have no chance with the deep darkness of WiF.

YouTube

This a tutorial from a computer version where they have transferred the thing to computer. Tutorial 10. Each half an hour long. You get the idea.
 
In my progression I would put Portal as the first step into FPS. If they stick with it long enough, that game teaches you a LOT of essential FPS skills hidden behind an insanely clever platform puzzler.

I found Portal to be boring. I'd rather go with Counterstrike.
 
I found Portal to be boring. I'd rather go with Counterstrike.

I wouldn't expect much luck throwing a novice gamer into Counterstrike.
 
Yeah, if they can't get Axis and Allies then you have no chance with the deep darkness of WiF.

YouTube

This a tutorial from a computer version where they have transferred the thing to computer. Tutorial 10. Each half an hour long. You get the idea.

Oh definitely! The problems are very different between the two games. In one the details are overly abundant and delve into absurd minutia, and the other has a short list of fairly vague rules that yield more warring over interpretation than actual warring.

They are both great games, though.
 
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