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EA cancels another Star Wars game

Unitedwestand13 said:
Why buy up studios and Ip rights of games if you never intend to make games?
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To keep it away from the competition. It is quite common.

Best example is English football. The top English clubs have a very bad reputation of buying up talent to avoid the competition get their hands on talented young players. They rot in the youth teams and reserves until 22-24 when their contracts expire but by then they should be near the start of their prime but because they have been stunted in their development, they are at best now second tier stars instead of top tier. And hence won't be helpful to any top team aka the competition. Only positive is that they got paid 30k a week for long periods...

In the gaming industry it happens as well.. Command and Conquer comes to mind. Master of Orion is another classic locked away and so and so on.

Rumors had that GM bought the rights to a water based engine in the 60s...

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PoS said:
What about Mary Sue Rey?
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I don't really do Star Wars. I just happened to go to an event that had the movie. The young female Jedi was okay.

What I was most impressed by is the end is hopeless. A handful of rebels on a moon surrounded by star destroyers. It's over. Rebels lose. Good try. Is the next movie already out? I wonder how anyone survives. I guess captives.
 
PeteEU said:
To keep it away from the competition. It is quite common.

Best example is English football. The top English clubs have a very bad reputation of buying up talent to avoid the competition get their hands on talented young players. They rot in the youth teams and reserves until 22-24 when their contracts expire but by then they should be near the start of their prime but because they have been stunted in their development, they are at best now second tier stars instead of top tier. And hence won't be helpful to any top team aka the competition. Only positive is that they got paid 30k a week for long periods...

In the gaming industry it happens as well.. Command and Conquer comes to mind. Master of Orion is another classic locked away and so and so on.

Rumors had that GM bought the rights to a water based engine in the 60s...
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In fairness, the long break between MoO titles was self inflicted by Microprose. They chose to risk a lot of money on a Star Trek IP license and then churned out a forgettable Birth of the Federation title using their MoO engine, rather than put that money into their developing their own MoO IP.
 
ecofarm said:
I don't really do Star Wars. I just happened to go to an event that had the movie. The young female Jedi was okay.

What I was most impressed by is the end is hopeless. A handful of rebels on a moon surrounded by star destroyers. It's over. Rebels lose. Good try. Is the next movie already out? I wonder how anyone survives. I guess captives.
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To build on that, when I watched the Last Jedi, I was struck how much it reminded me of J.R.R. Tolkien's pessimistic philosophy of history: That history itself is a chronicle of one long continuous defeat.



Tolkien saw history as cyclical, but entropic. In other words, while history repeats itself, every iteration is worse than the preceding iteration until it finally winds down into total disintegration.

It strikes me that the Star Wars Saga seems to unintentionally fall very much into the Tolkien mould of history. In the Prequels, it is a Golden Age of technology, beauty and order, and the Wars and Battles are grand galaxy-spanning affairs in which knights battle against the forces of evil. The original trilogy, meanwhile, shows a dark age in which the Empire controls the Galaxy, but things are nowhere near as beautiful or glittering as the prior epoch. Everything that we see is grungy and filthy with none of the glory of the prior age. And finally, in the modern trilogy, we now have a Galaxy that was supposedly "liberated" from the clutches of the Empire. But what we see of the Universe has been devastated and left a wasteland, and the Empire has been replaced by an even more nihilistic and rapacious enemy which obliterates entire worlds on a level hitherto unseen by the Galaxy.

In other words, there can be no hope. There can be no lasting victory, because every evil that you defeat simply comes back stronger than ever. There can be no one truly worthy of admiration, because all of your heroes have feet of clay, grow old, divorce and then die. Star Wars.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Sorry just on the move here, so can’t do a full post with quotes/links etc. But this is exploding so you won’t have trouble finding out more.

and this turned into Way more of a rant than I thought it would.

But Kotakus editor, Jason Schreier broke the news today that EA has cancelled an open world Star Wars game, that was actually the replacement of the other Star Wars game that was cancelled by Visceral Studios, that was shuttered following that cancellation.

I know Disney is just out to make money, but I feel they are smart enough that they know their IP’s should be handled better than this, EA has released a total of two games in half a decade, both cluster****s, particularly Battlefront II, how Disney continues to allow EA to mishandle and bungle one of its most prized IP’s is beyond me.

But I suppose when you see how they’ve mishandled it themselves, perhaps it’s not that shocking.

But Disney at the moment by continuing to allow EA to waste the licensing rights potential by releasing practically no games and what they allowed to happen with The Last Jedi, they are causing more damage to Star Wars than the prequels ever did, they now look good by comparison to Disney’s total mishandling of the franchise.

So **** EA, seriously, **** them man, a waste of space in the gaming industry and Disney, man you guys gotta clean house, get rid of everyone who is ****ing up what is probably your most valuable IP and pull your head out your ass.

/end rant
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EA is the epitome of what's wrong with the gaming industry, trying to monetize everything to the last penny is destroying gaming. I'm waiting on better games from publishers out to make money in return for quality. Yes, I'm talking about CD Projekt Red's next endeavour
 
Felis Leo said:
To build on that, when I watched the Last Jedi, I was struck how much it reminded me of J.R.R. Tolkien's pessimistic philosophy of history: That history itself is a chronicle of one long continuous defeat.



Tolkien saw history as cyclical, but entropic. In other words, while history repeats itself, every iteration is worse than the preceding iteration until it finally winds down into total disintegration.

It strikes me that the Star Wars Saga seems to unintentionally fall very much into the. In the Prequels, it is a Golden Age of technology, beauty and order, and the Wars and Battles are grand galaxy-spanning affairs in which knights battle against the forces of evil. The original trilogy, meanwhile, shows a dark age in which the Empire controls the Galaxy, but things are nowhere near as beautiful or glittering as the prior epoch. Everything that we see is grungy and filthy with none of the glory of the prior age. And finally, in the modern trilogy, we now have a Galaxy that was supposedly "liberated" from the clutches of the Empire. But what we see of the Universe has been devastated and left a wasteland, and the Empire has been replaced by an even more nihilistic and rapacious enemy which obliterates entire worlds on a level hitherto unseen by the Galaxy.

In other words, there can be no hope. There can be no lasting victory, because every evil that you defeat simply comes back stronger than ever. There can be no one truly worthy of admiration, because all of your heroes have feet of clay, grow old, divorce and then die. Star Wars.
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It's Shakespearean. No crescendo, climax and denouement. It starts at the top and goes downhill until everyone's dead.
 
Felis Leo said:
To build on that, when I watched the Last Jedi, I was struck how much it reminded me of J.R.R. Tolkien's pessimistic philosophy of history: That history itself is a chronicle of one long continuous defeat.



Tolkien saw history as cyclical, but entropic. In other words, while history repeats itself, every iteration is worse than the preceding iteration until it finally winds down into total disintegration.

It strikes me that the Star Wars Saga seems to unintentionally fall very much into the Tolkien mould of history. In the Prequels, it is a Golden Age of technology, beauty and order, and the Wars and Battles are grand galaxy-spanning affairs in which knights battle against the forces of evil. The original trilogy, meanwhile, shows a dark age in which the Empire controls the Galaxy, but things are nowhere near as beautiful or glittering as the prior epoch. Everything that we see is grungy and filthy with none of the glory of the prior age. And finally, in the modern trilogy, we now have a Galaxy that was supposedly "liberated" from the clutches of the Empire. But what we see of the Universe has been devastated and left a wasteland, and the Empire has been replaced by an even more nihilistic and rapacious enemy which obliterates entire worlds on a level hitherto unseen by the Galaxy.

In other words, there can be no hope. There can be no lasting victory, because every evil that you defeat simply comes back stronger than ever. There can be no one truly worthy of admiration, because all of your heroes have feet of clay, grow old, divorce and then die. Star Wars.
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Well, in fairness to Tolkien, it is true that we keep finding new and amazing ways to kill each other.
 
Carjosse said:
At the cost of becoming one of the main causes of cancer in the gaming industry and they seem to be promising investors that same growth going forward, which is just ludicrous. It is not just Take-Two, it is all of the large publishers.
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I would be happy with half of 521% in five years, or 50% per year. Beats CDs, that's for sure. :lol: But I see no shortage of content. The gaming industry is about as close to pure capitalism as you can get, even with the proviso that content can be trademarked and copyrighted. I mean, in how many industries do you see companies developing products that can be enjoyed for free? And yet that's where the industry is today, with companies offering free games with enticements to buy virtual currency for upgrades and add-ons. So go get yourself a copy of DOS or Windows 95 and play Diablo or Command and Conquer to your heart's content, or just do what everyone else is doing: play Fortnite and be happy! :2wave:
 
Renae said:
EA is the epitome of what's wrong with the gaming industry, trying to monetize everything to the last penny is destroying gaming. I'm waiting on better games from publishers out to make money in return for quality. Yes, I'm talking about CD Projekt Red's next endeavour
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EA and Activision just can’t seem to find any sort of balance, I know they’re a business and I know they’re out to make money, I’m not naive enough to not understand they’re not in this business because they’re passionate about the medium.

But they need to understsand that by continuing to piss off their customers with shoddier and shoddier quality products and more and more scummy monetization schemes that are really getting out of hand, they will drive that consumer base away and how are they gonna please the investors then?

It seems to me they’re building a house of cards and the cards are built out of conchrete and that will collapse right on their heads if they keep doing what they’re doing.
 
Jetboogieman said:
EA and Activision just can’t seem to find any sort of balance, I know they’re a business and I know they’re out to make money, I’m not naive enough to not understand they’re not in this business because they’re passionate about the medium.

But they need to understsand that by continuing to piss off their customers with shoddier and shoddier quality products and more and more scummy monetization schemes that are really getting out of hand, they will drive that consumer base away and how are they gonna please the investors then?

It seems to me they’re building a house of cards and the cards are built out of conchrete and that will collapse right on their heads if they keep doing what they’re doing.
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Not to mention also just breaking the law in order to increase their profits even more.
 
Felis Leo said:
To build on that, when I watched the Last Jedi, I was struck how much it reminded me of J.R.R. Tolkien's pessimistic philosophy of history: That history itself is a chronicle of one long continuous defeat.



Tolkien saw history as cyclical, but entropic. In other words, while history repeats itself, every iteration is worse than the preceding iteration until it finally winds down into total disintegration.

It strikes me that the Star Wars Saga seems to unintentionally fall very much into the Tolkien mould of history. In the Prequels, it is a Golden Age of technology, beauty and order, and the Wars and Battles are grand galaxy-spanning affairs in which knights battle against the forces of evil. The original trilogy, meanwhile, shows a dark age in which the Empire controls the Galaxy, but things are nowhere near as beautiful or glittering as the prior epoch. Everything that we see is grungy and filthy with none of the glory of the prior age. And finally, in the modern trilogy, we now have a Galaxy that was supposedly "liberated" from the clutches of the Empire. But what we see of the Universe has been devastated and left a wasteland, and the Empire has been replaced by an even more nihilistic and rapacious enemy which obliterates entire worlds on a level hitherto unseen by the Galaxy.

In other words, there can be no hope. There can be no lasting victory, because every evil that you defeat simply comes back stronger than ever. There can be no one truly worthy of admiration, because all of your heroes have feet of clay, grow old, divorce and then die. Star Wars.
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You strike on a point that I'd like to touch on, if you don't mind. In the new Star Wars Canon, there was a New Republic built and there was peace and prosperity for at least 30 years. But in that time the First Order built up their strength (illegally, IIRC) by using proxies and cartels to fund their operations. And the New Republic ignored it, not wanting to get into another war, and they paid for it, as they all got obliterated. The problem for me with the sequel trilogy is, that I had to read a book (Bloodlines) for me to get that context. It should've been in the Force Awakens, instead of immediately destroying the New Republic after 10 seconds. I know people didn't like the politics scenes in the prequels, but I did. It gave context for what was going on around the galaxy. With the sequels, I have no idea what's going on on a larger scale, because everything so far has been pretty confined.
 
TheGoverness said:
You guys don't have phones? :cool:
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See, the funny thing about that is that I actually didn't have a "smartphone" until mid-2018. Spend too much time in front of a computer already...





But this new diablo thing is just an adaptation for phone of D3, not the new game people seem to want.
 
Jetboogieman said:
EA and Activision just can’t seem to find any sort of balance, I know they’re a business and I know they’re out to make money, I’m not naive enough to not understand they’re not in this business because they’re passionate about the medium.

But they need to understsand that by continuing to piss off their customers with shoddier and shoddier quality products and more and more scummy monetization schemes that are really getting out of hand, they will drive that consumer base away and how are they gonna please the investors then?

It seems to me they’re building a house of cards and the cards are built out of conchrete and that will collapse right on their heads if they keep doing what they’re doing.
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Well they tricked me into buying BF1, played it for about 3 hours and that was all I needed to hate it, not just a little, I hate the game passionately. Then they told me to buy BFV, and I wasn't falling for it, and neither were more than 60% of the people that bought BF1.. BF1 compared to all the previous BF titles was an abject failure, and BFV was even worse, so much so that the game went on sale half price a week after launch. Now, almost everyone has abandoned BFV and back to BF4 which is the BF game that actually still feels like a Battlefield game. All this SJW crap, they tried to put into that last two titles pissed everyone off. It's like EA doesn't even know who their audience is? How could they be this inept, serious question.

If EA didn't have Madden and FIFA, they'd be in serious trouble, IMO.


I hate them as much as the OP. They are destroying gaming!

Tim-
 
Hicup said:
Well they tricked me into buying BF1, played it for about 3 hours and that was all I needed to hate it, not just a little, I hate the game passionately.
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Battlefield 1 was fine, it was actually quite good, I never really played any of the DLC's so I don't know how those ended up, but I enjoyed the game for a good few months after launch, I thought it was great.

Then they told me to buy BFV, and I wasn't falling for it, and neither were more than 60% of the people that bought BF1.. BF1 compared to all the previous BF titles was an abject failure,
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I think that's a matter of opinion, BF1 had a pretty good reception all things considered, this is reflected by reviews, my general feeling and the Metacritic user scores.

and BFV was even worse, so much so that the game went on sale half price a week after launch. Now, almost everyone has abandoned BFV and back to BF4 which is the BF game that actually still feels like a Battlefield game.
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I think BFV suffered from a little bit of brand fatigue and a lacklustre marketing campaign, yeah it's always a bad sign when it goes on sale that fast, but I played the BETA and it was just so disinteresting, there really wasn't anything compelling I could find in the gameplay and that's what its all about to me.

We'll see if the Battle Royale mode can breath SOME new life into the game, but I think Battle Royale is beginning to lose it's appeal and I think we'll see the Genre begin to die off this year, could be wrong, but the consumer is fickle and I think they will start to lose interest.

All this SJW crap, they tried to put into that last two titles pissed everyone off. It's like EA doesn't even know who their audience is? How could they be this inept, serious question.
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I think there was a bit of stupidity on both sides when it comes to this, I mean, grown men losing their **** over women in the game, which makes no sense given that COD: WWII had it, with whacky costumes to boot and there was no backlash like this.

I think it's also the failure of EA from a marketing perspective because I believe some people on their side were saying they wanted to have a realistic WWII experience, but then, weird chick with metal hand and a cricket bat... That's fine, if that's the direction you want to go in, nothing wrong with that, but be clear you want to have a more zany and colorful approach to WWII.

If EA didn't have Madden and FIFA, they'd be in serious trouble, IMO.
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Quite possibly yes.
 
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