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ThoughtEx.

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Well it's that time of year, bonus time, and I've been shopping around for a new gaming desktop so me and the wife can play together. And I've found what I think is a good deal, but before I drop a 1,000 dollars on it, I'd like a second opinion.

Keep in mind I live in Northern Canada so everything is more expensive, The price is in Canadian and converts to 774 Dollars US, and shipping is a nightmare so the free shipping to the store which is right down the road is a plus.

https://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/gami...oLsaAvoEEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds#product-details

Now, I'm familiar with the Intel line of processors, I-5 I-7, but not so much the AMD, is the AMD FX 6300 decent? Will I need to upgrade it in the next two years?

Will the power supply be sufficient if I add in a few more bells and whistles like extra Ram or a new fan?
 
Here's the way I see it (reviews are important):

The CPU is okay...not great.

AMD FX-6300 Review - Armchair Empire

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/processors/amd-fx-6300-1117533/review

Good overclocker.

GPU is good...not great.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1269-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050/

Good bang for the buck.

Both the CPU and GPU have been around for a while...definitely not current generation.

RAM and Harddrive are good...but probably generic brands. 16 gigs and 2 TB are probably all you need (though an SSD is always recommended). PSU...350w...on the low side if you want to add stuff or overclock.

Good budget computer...

I was an AMD CPU honk for years...until Intel came out with the Core CPU's. I'll never go back to AMD. Not for any amount of savings. I've always been an Nvidia fanboy. Given your limitation...location and shipping...this is a good choice as long as you don't expect more than 1080p display or running high end games at max settings.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Well it's that time of year, bonus time, and I've been shopping around for a new gaming desktop so me and the wife can play together. And I've found what I think is a good deal, but before I drop a 1,000 dollars on it, I'd like a second opinion.

Keep in mind I live in Northern Canada so everything is more expensive, The price is in Canadian and converts to 774 Dollars US, and shipping is a nightmare so the free shipping to the store which is right down the road is a plus.

https://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/gami...oLsaAvoEEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds#product-details

Now, I'm familiar with the Intel line of processors, I-5 I-7, but not so much the AMD, is the AMD FX 6300 decent? Will I need to upgrade it in the next two years?

Will the power supply be sufficient if I add in a few more bells and whistles like extra Ram or a new fan?
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It really depends on the kind of gaming you do. If this system was meant mostly for premier titles that tend to invest heavily in graphical beauty (*cough*and-below-average-content*cough*) then I would say it would need an upgrade within two years. On the other hand, the vast majority of games will run well on it.

So really it is all about what games you intend to play on it.
 
Thanks for the advice, yeah I wasn't looking for cutting edge, just something that can play everything out now so the wife and me can do co op games or an MMO together. Dont want to spend 3 grand on a system she will only use on the weekends.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Thanks for the advice, yeah I wasn't looking for cutting edge, just something that can play everything out now so the wife and me can do co op games or an MMO together. Dont want to spend 3 grand on a system she will only use on the weekends.
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You should be fine. My only real issues with it are it's lack of USB 3 ports and apparent lack of expansion ports. Don't buy this with the thought of upgrading it later.

You may spend a few dollars more, but maybe look into iBuyPower for a similar rig (I was looking at the B250 model). They have very competitive prices, and you will get the ability to upgrade later.
 
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A 1060 has enough horsepower that it is unlikely to ever run out of steam at 1080. One reviewer called it the ultimate card for 1080 gaming.

If you do get the 1050, don't get the 2gb card, the one there has 4, just wanted you to be aware of it.

That cpu gets basically the same Passmark score as the i5 3470 that I got in 2013. It's good enough, but barely.

https://techreport.com/review/32967/the-tech-report-system-guide-winter-2017-edition/2
 
I would wait as GPU and Ram prices are crazy high.

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Ram and fans are pretty negligible when it comes to power draw.

Don’t buy an FX series. Ryzen is the current AMD lineup.

The FX 6300 is like six years old. Why the hell anyone would pair that with a 2017 GPU is beyond me.
 
Deuce said:
Ram and fans are pretty negligible when it comes to power draw.

Don’t buy an FX series. Ryzen is the current AMD lineup.

The FX 6300 is like six years old. Why the hell anyone would pair that with a 2017 GPU is beyond me.
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Hehe depends on how many fans you use!!!
 
PeteEU said:
Hehe depends on how many fans you use!!!
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The FX series was the lowest of the low as far as the Intel-AMD gap goes. They tried to shove too many cores into a chip before software was ready to utilize them, and they seriously sacrificed single-core performance to do it. For gaming, this is particularly important.

I’ve been building custom PCs for years and from about 2012 until the Ryzen launch there was just no price or performance point I would have recommended ANY AMD CPU. Intel’s Sandy Bridge line launched around then and just flat beat out the FX series.

Thankfully, the Ryzen line closed most of the performance gap, and the performance/dollar metric now has some solid AMD options depending on what you’re looking for.
 
Deuce said:
The FX series was the lowest of the low as far as the Intel-AMD gap goes. They tried to shove too many cores into a chip before software was ready to utilize them, and they seriously sacrificed single-core performance to do it. For gaming, this is particularly important.

I’ve been building custom PCs for years and from about 2012 until the Ryzen launch there was just no price or performance point I would have recommended ANY AMD CPU. Intel’s Sandy Bridge line launched around then and just flat beat out the FX series.

Thankfully, the Ryzen line closed most of the performance gap, and the performance/dollar metric now has some solid AMD options depending on what you’re looking for.
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Was thinking more about those oversized silly fans plus a load of case fans.. that can quickly run up in some wattage :) Ever see this LinusTechTip video? Now that is airflow!!!

 
Mycroft said:
Here's the way I see it (reviews are important):

The CPU is okay...not great.

AMD FX-6300 Review - Armchair Empire

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/processors/amd-fx-6300-1117533/review

Good overclocker.

GPU is good...not great.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1269-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050/

Good bang for the buck.

Both the CPU and GPU have been around for a while...definitely not current generation.

RAM and Harddrive are good...but probably generic brands. 16 gigs and 2 TB are probably all you need (though an SSD is always recommended). PSU...350w...on the low side if you want to add stuff or overclock.

Good budget computer...

I was an AMD CPU honk for years...until Intel came out with the Core CPU's. I'll never go back to AMD. Not for any amount of savings. I've always been an Nvidia fanboy. Given your limitation...location and shipping...this is a good choice as long as you don't expect more than 1080p display or running high end games at max settings.
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I picked up a Dell XPS 8700 some years back. It still does everything I need. Came with the i7-4790. I added a my previous computers HD, and a Bluray player right away. A few years ago I added an overclocked EVGA GeForce 950 card. Then 32 GB of memory and a 1 TB SSD. Then I went on to add three 32" 1440 5 ms Samsung S32D850 monitors. Just yesterday, I installed a new MSI RTX 2070 Graphics card. My power supply didn't have the 6 and 8 power connectors, only two six's, so I bought a Corsair 750W modular.

My best upgrade now would be to upgrade to the i7-4790K CPU. Not worth spending that much for me. My system does everything I need it to.
 
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