Hmm Intel has already slashed prices and are rumoured to slash even more because of the R5.
That was bad reporting from a tech blog. They looked at prices at Microcenter and assumed it was a price drop. However, these were Microcenter's prices from before the Ryzen series even launched. Microcenter always sells CPUs below MSRP as a loss-lead.
Intel hasn't changed MSRP at all. Newegg and Amazon haven't cut prices. This was a mistake on part of a crappy blogger.
Heh, funny. I have heard the opposite basically. The only place I have heard such a negative view is from Intel fanboys. AMD fanboys are of course all about AMD, but from the some what middle ground, the reception of Ryzen has been positive. Yes the 1080p gaming benchmarks are not what people expected... for now.
There's an extremely short list of compatible memory. The X-series chips are (deliberately) reporting higher temperatures. Motherboard manufacturers had only a few weeks to prepare BIOSes, resulting in serious bugs and some boards outright bricking themselves. Microsoft's task scheduler isn't properly handling the architecture. A little more time was needed to iron that out. They pushed the product out the door about a month sooner than they should have, because they wanted Q1 sales numbers.
It will get better, but their technology is still fundamentally worse than Intel's. But the R7 line isn't a pure gaming line of chips. Like I said, they aren't the same usage as the Intel quad-cores. They're competition for the 6800/6900, which they beat out in value by a longshot when it comes to many-threaded operations. (content creators will love this product, someone trying to get into twitch streaming or running a youtube channel, or other encoding work at home, just got a huge drop in price of entry)
You simply cant beat the power vs price from the new AMD processors. Of course hardcore gamers will go for the best of the best, which technically still is Intel (at least until AMD and motherboard producers improve bios and firmware and such.), however they are a small minority of the overall PC world. For me the hardcore gamers buy "e-penis" machines to brag how great their rigs are and how much they can overclock. The 99.9% of the rest of the planet dont care.
This is a different argument. My point was about Intel not dropping prices. They aren't going to drop prices on their flagship quad-core CPUs because they still have the performance lead. They have better IPC, combined with better clockspeeds. They're happy to have the higher-priced, higher-performing products. They've been doing that for over a decade now.
Bios fixes will not put Ryzen on top of Intel. The chips aren't capable of that. The i5/i7 line is well-refined at this point, that's how you're seeing people get 5ghz out of the 7600/7700 chips. Ryzen will still need a year or two to improve their process.
The key test will be with the Ryzen 5 chips, which are in direct competition with the i5, which like it or not is the most popular processor class. There are no independent benchmarks yet of course, but once they are out there, then we shall see.
The lower core-count chips are still on the same architecture. They're going to have the same IPC and I've no reason to expect they'll end up clocking much higher, if any. The R5's will still perform worse than the i5s. They'll be a great value, though.
Like it or not, Ryzen is not far behind if at all of the equivalent Intel chips... and price wise they are on another planet and I for one welcome AMD back, as being under the Intel price dictation for over a decade is .. not good.
Yes, at no point did I suggest Intel had a better price/performance ratio.
It's not intentional as far as I can tell just poor sensors. It's also the 1700 btw, I'm running a stress test on my ryzen now to make sure this is a good OC until the corsair bracket comes in (3.7 ghz @ 1.2v) and the mobo temp shows 73C but aida64 and cpuid show 59C
No, AMD released a statement in response to the people confused about temperatures. tCTL is offset +20c from Tj. But only on the X series chips.
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/03/13/amd-ryzen-community-update
Bizarre freaking choice. They do it to keep the chips cooler - systems will kick their CPU fans into higher gear at lower actual temperatures. But why? My best guess is that "XFR" feature found on the X-models will sometimes boost the CPU to uncomfortable temperature levels when left to its own devices, so this was an easier way to trick the boost logic into only using XFR when the cooling system is performing well enough.
I agree 100% that I'm really glad to see AMD back in the game. They aren't beating Intel in performance, but they've got that "value option" appeal back. before it was "these chips are cheap but they're so crap I can't recommend them."