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Mycroft said:

I thought I told you to save that stuff for your political threads? LOL!!

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well lets put it this way,win 8 has low adoption numbers,even the full abandonment of xp has done zero to boost 8's numbers,it actually either boosted 7's numbers or people stuck with xp despite vulnerabilities.


i dont even think vista did that bad,i think the only os with worse reviews was windows me,which i downt count as modern times because it was the last dos based windows,while its competitor within ms was win2000 which was nt based,nt being old but not as old as dos.

Mycroft said:

Yes, they ARE going to add a real Start Button/Menu. I suppose that's a good thing even if I have no use for it. Sounds like a good move on their part.

Kind of sucks for those add-on companies, though.

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i dont think add on companies will care much,as they were small scale and many non profit.

however i fealt metro was great in tablet and phone but failed elsewhere,ms biggest flaw was merging desktop and tablet.tablet will never replace the desktop,much like people thought laptops would replace dektops,but in reality what became cheaper in smaller hardware,became even cheaper and more powerfull in larger hardware,and companies like spending more on super powered hardware like desktops,because its cheaper in the long run,vs more frequent upgrades.making a similiar codebase never was the problem,nor would have been making metro an option,it was using metro to replace the common desktop functionality that enreaged people,especially people familiar with windows and business who wanted simple ui.

beerftw said:

well lets put it this way,win 8 has low adoption numbers,even the full abandonment of xp has done zero to boost 8's numbers,it actually either boosted 7's numbers or people stuck with xp despite vulnerabilities.


i dont even think vista did that bad,i think the only os with worse reviews was windows me,which i downt count as modern times because it was the last dos based windows,while its competitor within ms was win2000 which was nt based,nt being old but not as old as dos.

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Big deal.

None of that means, in the slightest, that Win8 is a deficient or defective OS like WinME and Vista were. It just means that a whole lot of people can't handle change. That's all it really boils down to.

When you start talking about the actual nuts and bolts of Win8, there is no denying that it is well built, fast, secure...and it works exactly as it was intended.

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If you don't like the Start Screen, fine. Then say so. But don't make up **** about it or repeat **** that you read from others. That just gets you slapped down like I've done to you throughout this thread.

Mycroft said:

Big deal.

None of that means, in the slightest, that Win8 is a deficient or defective OS like WinME and Vista were. It just means that a whole lot of people can't handle change. That's all it really boils down to.

When you start talking about the actual nuts and bolts of Win8, there is no denying that it is well built, fast, secure...and it works exactly as it was intended.

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If you don't like the Start Screen, fine. Then say so. But don't make up **** about it or repeat **** that you read from others. That just gets you slapped down like I've done to you throughout this thread.

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win 8 is very stable and fast.but not usable by the average user.


put it this way,win me broke so many grounds in tech,yet was unusable and unstable,win8 only has one of those two for the average user.however windows me was crossbread with window 200 which still used the windows 98 interface with nt kernel,and came out with xp,yes xp was windows me's groundbreaking achievements combined with a kernel that didnt give a blue screen of death every 20 minutes.

if you didnt know,ms has two windows teams,hence why windows always has a good os followed by a bad one,one team always takes stability and compatibility into accont,while the other tends to make intermediate releases,focusing on aDVANCED FEATURES OVER STABILITY.hence look at win me was terrible yet brought many features even win 2000 didnt have,win xp owned,win vista brought numerous features but flopped badly,win 7 rocked,win 8 flopped,more than likely the win 9 team will focus more on correcting flaws and improving stability of win 8,and turn win 8's foundation into a highly accepted os.

beerftw said:

win 8 is very stable and fast.but not usable by the average user.

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And THAT!! is about the dumbest thing you've ever read on the Internet and repeated here. LOL!!

put it this way,win me broke so many grounds in tech,yet was unusable and unstable,win8 only has one of those two for the average user.however windows me was crossbread with window 200 which still used the windows 98 interface with nt kernel,and came out with xp,yes xp was windows me's groundbreaking achievements combined with a kernel that didnt give a blue screen of death every 20 minutes.

if you didnt know,ms has two windows teams,hence why windows always has a good os followed by a bad one,one team always takes stability and compatibility into accont,while the other tends to make intermediate releases,focusing on aDVANCED FEATURES OVER STABILITY.hence look at win me was terrible yet brought many features even win 2000 didnt have,win xp owned,win vista brought numerous features but flopped badly,win 7 rocked,win 8 flopped,more than likely the win 9 team will focus more on correcting flaws and improving stability of win 8,and turn win 8's foundation into a highly accepted os.

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The rest of this stuff is just more of your illogical horse****.

Look, do yourself a favor. Either USE Win8 so you know what the hell you are talking about...or stop talking. Talking without knowing what you are talking about only works in the political arena.

Mycroft said:

And THAT!! is about the dumbest thing you've ever read on the Internet and repeated here. LOL!!



The rest of this stuff is just more of your illogical horse****.

Look, do yourself a favor. Either USE Win8 so you know what the hell you are talking about...or stop talking. Talking without knowing what you are talking about only works in the political arena.

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i do have win 8,im posting from a computer with win 8,i just disabled metro.i and almost every single ive ever seen finds it to be the most useless thing ever for desktop users.

beerftw said:

i do have win 8,im posting from a computer with win 8,i just disabled metro.i and almost every single ive ever seen finds it to be the most useless thing ever for desktop users.

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Well...I don't know WHAT to believe from you now. After all, just a little while ago you spouted off with some dumbass stuff about Win8 not being able to handle multiple monitors, unable to multitask, etc. All based on what you read somewhere on the Internet. Now, you say you use the OS. If you use it, I would think you are aware...at first hand...what the OS is capable of doing.

Hmmm...maybe you are just one of those "low information" computer users. LOL!!

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Well...I don't know WHAT to believe from you now. After all, just a little while ago you spouted off with some dumbass stuff about Win8 not being able to handle multiple monitors, unable to multitask, etc. All based on what you read somewhere on the Internet. Now, you say you use the OS. If you use it, I would think you are aware...at first hand...what the OS is capable of doing.

Hmmm...maybe you are just one of those "low information" computer users. LOL!!

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i do use the os,but i ave metro disabled,so the os is modified,technically win 8 can use multiple monitors,but metro is unable to utilize multiple monitors beyond one app per monitor,but not able to handle one app divided among multiple monitors like non metro apps.

further i use windows since win 3.1,bsd,linux,solaris,etc,and have even compiled custom bsd kernels,so to call me a low information user for refusing to accept a gui the majority of users refuse,literally must put you on direct fanboy status.

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i do use the os,but i ave metro disabled,so the os is modified,technically win 8 can use multiple monitors,but metro is unable to utilize multiple monitors beyond one app per monitor,but not able to handle one app divided among multiple monitors like non metro apps.

further i use windows since win 3.1,bsd,linux,solaris,etc,and have even compiled custom bsd kernels,so to call me a low information user for refusing to accept a gui the majority of users refuse,literally must put you on direct fanboy status.

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So...you don't like "metro", so you've taken steps to deal with that. Cool. So what's your beef with Win8? It's working, right? Or is this all about you wanting to grouse about "metro"?

Heck, given that MS has made the Start Screen available to those who want to use it, while not forcing anyone to use it who doesn't want to use it, still having the desktop available for those who want to use it and improving, under the hood, upon Win7, I really fail to see what's wrong with the OS. Seems like it's got everyone covered.

I think what a lot of people think...you included...is that Win8 is "metro". It's not. Now, "metro" is PART of Win8, but Win8 is so much more than that. Saying Win8 is a crappy OS because you don't like "metro" is like saying whatever car you are driving is a piece of junk because you don't like the radio.

Mycroft said:

I agree they missed the point. I don't agree that the Start Screen is a piece of ****. But then, I never used the old Start Button/Menu in Win7 so having it...or not having it...means nothing to me. The Start Screen works when I want to mess with apps. The desktop works when I want to do anything else. That's good enough for me.

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I used the start menu daily in earlier versions of Windows. I do not use Metro at all. And of course that means I have a cluttered desktop, which annoys me. Win8 could have been good, if only they had not tried a one size fits all, PC, tablet, phone UI. As it is, I am very bitter about Windows to the point I will not even consider a Windows based phone or tablet(and I am getting a new tablet soon).

Redress said:

I used the start menu daily in earlier versions of Windows. I do not use Metro at all. And of course that means I have a cluttered desktop, which annoys me. Win8 could have been good, if only they had not tried a one size fits all, PC, tablet, phone UI. As it is, I am very bitter about Windows to the point I will not even consider a Windows based phone or tablet(and I am getting a new tablet soon).

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Why would any rational person consider a Windows-based phone anyway? It's bad enough having to put up with Windows on a conventional desktop/laptop-type platform. With Android and IOS both being available, and both being far superior in almost every imaginable way to Windows, why would you ever think of settling for a Windows-based phone?

Redress said:

I used the start menu daily in earlier versions of Windows. I do not use Metro at all. And of course that means I have a cluttered desktop, which annoys me. Win8 could have been good, if only they had not tried a one size fits all, PC, tablet, phone UI. As it is, I am very bitter about Windows to the point I will not even consider a Windows based phone or tablet(and I am getting a new tablet soon).

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There are alternatives for people like you who don't like Metro.

Add-ons that give you a start menu, Fences, a program that gives you choices as to what icons are visible on your desktop...and when..., or you can wait for MS to give you the start menu. That won't be long in coming.

In any case, Win8 is still a very good OS.

beerftw said:

as far as im aware,metro currently does not support multiple monitors,

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Wrong. I have 2 monitors. Right now I am running Chrome (desktop version) on one monitor with Bing News app next too it. On my other monitor I have my people app, twitter app and mail app running.

and does not allow more than 2 running programs,

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Not correct. See above.

so essentially its barely more functional than dos for the average computer user who demands multitasking,requiring frequent switching between metro and the desktop in order to multitask,

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Not in Windows 8.1 update 1.

a problem in which the start menu never had as it was always tied to the desktop since windows 95.

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The start menu was ultimately useless for anything. The new start page has some functions (search function) that is at least useful up to a point. In general most people will use links on the launch bar or the desktop (on desktop enviorments) and with Windows 8.1 update 1 you can link metro apps if you want or just the tradition stuff .. basically like from Windows 7 and before. m

further even if you can ultimately do the same with metro,its horribly innefficient,and designed for a touchscreen,not a pc with modern multitasking capabilities,

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Yes it is designed for a touch environment.. in Windows 8. Now Windows 8.1 update 1 added functions for the desktop environment if you want to use the start page. But as I said, in the desktop environment no one is forcing you. In fact Windows 8.1 update one, boots automatically into the desktop and not the start page.

but a tablet designed to run single tasks,its like going from a modern car with an automatic,two pedals and a shift lever,to a model t with 3 shift levers,a spark advance lever,a brake lever,a clutch lever etc and calling it advancement,by just how simply more complicated it is to do simple tasks that took seconds under the old windows ui.

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Hey dont bring the iPad into this. Windows 8 on a tablet can run multiple tasks and windows.

its so bad even microsoft has waved the white flag in defeat over the start menu,and is planning on installing it in a later update this year,

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No, it will be 2015.. and it wont be your traditional start menu. I have seen what it will be and it is basically a miniature start page. And it will go as unused as the start menu/button was in Windows 7 and before.

after all capitalism works by making what the customers want,not by making what they absolutely hate then running a campaign convincing them their stupid for not buying a product they hate.

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Works great for Apple.

Mycroft said:

There are alternatives for people like you who don't like Metro.

Add-ons that give you a start menu, Fences, a program that gives you choices as to what icons are visible on your desktop...and when..., or you can wait for MS to give you the start menu. That won't be long in coming.

In any case, Win8 is still a very good OS.

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Tried this and it is useless with Windows 8.1 update 1 imo. All it adds is a small start window that very few use.. as most in a desktop environment simply put a link on the desktop for easy access. The Start menu has always been horrible when trying to find programs and settings.. something the start page has changed dramatically but people are too stubborn to realize this.

Bob Blaylock said:

Why would any rational person consider a Windows-based phone anyway? It's bad enough having to put up with Windows on a conventional desktop/laptop-type platform. With Android and IOS both being available, and both being far superior in almost every imaginable way to Windows, why would you ever think of settling for a Windows-based phone?

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actually i have a windows phone and it works quite well,the metro ui is perfect for phones and tablets,where the desktop ui is too small on a phone or tab for touchscreen use.i do however like android,being a linux kernel and open source,however the part i hate is that google only makes it for the nexus,then every retailer needs to write their own drivers afterwards,which means whether android works good or not depends on the oem and how much detail they put into writing their drivers.

PeteEU said:

Wrong. I have 2 monitors. Right now I am running Chrome (desktop version) on one monitor with Bing News app next too it. On my other monitor I have my people app, twitter app and mail app running.



Not correct. See above.



Not in Windows 8.1 update 1.



The start menu was ultimately useless for anything. The new start page has some functions (search function) that is at least useful up to a point. In general most people will use links on the launch bar or the desktop (on desktop enviorments) and with Windows 8.1 update 1 you can link metro apps if you want or just the tradition stuff .. basically like from Windows 7 and before. m



Yes it is designed for a touch environment.. in Windows 8. Now Windows 8.1 update 1 added functions for the desktop environment if you want to use the start page. But as I said, in the desktop environment no one is forcing you. In fact Windows 8.1 update one, boots automatically into the desktop and not the start page.



Hey dont bring the iPad into this. Windows 8 on a tablet can run multiple tasks and windows.



No, it will be 2015.. and it wont be your traditional start menu. I have seen what it will be and it is basically a miniature start page. And it will go as unused as the start menu/button was in Windows 7 and before.



Works great for Apple.

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for one can you do two taks on two monitors with metro apps???answer is no,as ms has yet to adress this problem.


the win 8.1 update didnt fix much of metro's problems,it just made it more friendly to non touchscreen users,its still quite a mess for traditional users,who still use aftermarket programs to eliminate metro,as windows eliminated the problem after the win 8 beta when everyone figured out how to eliminate metro through registry keys.


for the start menu being worthless,it sure seemed to piss off a large majority of users,whereas metro pleased very few,and even to the extent ms caved in and decided its going to return the start menu.

win 8 adds little to the common mouse keyboard user,most still use aftermarket software to eliminate metro.

win 8 can multitask,but not very well,ofcourse dos could technically multitask as well,but it is a pain much like a tablet os,vs win 95-win7 in which multitasking was seamless.


ive seen the start menu,yes its metro combined with the old start menu,but it will not go unused,the fact the average windows user and low market sales points to the fact the start menu was widely used,just because you and few others didnt use it,doesnt mean it wasnt used,infact it was used from win 95 on,so its standard for any windows user,and even linux user excluding ubuntu users,but ofcourse the newer ubuntu menu has had massive backlash as well,so far touchscreen environments on desktops have never shown to be successful.


finally,apple makes two environments,a desktop and a touch os,ms tried to make a one size fits all,even aple was smart enough to see a jack of all trades master of none was a bad idea.it took win8 quite a while to beat ios in market share,given windows owns around 95% of the market share,yet win 8 in 2 years barely beat an os with around 2-3% market share,shows how bad win 8 was adopted.

Mycroft said:

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So...you don't like "metro", so you've taken steps to deal with that. Cool. So what's your beef with Win8? It's working, right? Or is this all about you wanting to grouse about "metro"?

Heck, given that MS has made the Start Screen available to those who want to use it, while not forcing anyone to use it who doesn't want to use it, still having the desktop available for those who want to use it and improving, under the hood, upon Win7, I really fail to see what's wrong with the OS. Seems like it's got everyone covered.

I think what a lot of people think...you included...is that Win8 is "metro". It's not. Now, "metro" is PART of Win8, but Win8 is so much more than that. Saying Win8 is a crappy OS because you don't like "metro" is like saying whatever car you are driving is a piece of junk because you don't like the radio.

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win8 is remarkable minus metro,it would have actually roflstomped win 7 had metro been default on tabs and phones and optional on desktops and laptops,instead ms chose a one size fits all option,even though one size does not fit all,even ios and macos are seperate and catered to their audience.

beerftw said:

for one can you do two taks on two monitors with metro apps???answer is no,as ms has yet to adress this problem.

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Eh? You have not used Windows 8.1 update 1 I am guessing because this is utter bull**** what you are saying. I can have 3-4 different apps side by side on my screen and can move between them as I wish.

the win 8.1 update didnt fix much of metro's problems,it just made it more friendly to non touchscreen users,its still quite a mess for traditional users,who still use aftermarket programs to eliminate metro,as windows eliminated the problem after the win 8 beta when everyone figured out how to eliminate metro through registry keys.

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Sorry but you have NO idea what the hell you are talking about. Have you even used Windows 8 because it sounds like you have not. You dont have to use the metro interface or the metro apps if you dont want to in desktop. Now if you are one of the handful of people that need to use the old classic start menu for some stupid reason, then yes you are out of luck, you have to use the start page... but it is far far far more functional than the old start menu. For one you can just start typing to search for files or things instead of having to click in a search field. You can also on this page, if you want to use it.. set it up as you wish... something you could not do with the old Start menu.

for the start menu being worthless,it sure seemed to piss off a large majority of users,whereas metro pleased very few,and even to the extent ms caved in and decided its going to return the start menu.

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No it did not. It pissed off a few people, and that was picked up by Apple PR folk and Microsoft haters and they went with it pushing often bull**** about the OS. I remember so official reviewers from CNET and other sites publishing utter lies about how the OS worked and they were exposed big time (but the stories never corrected of course) in the comments section. There was one idiot reviewer that said he could not find anything in Windows 8 and that search was pathetic.. WHAT? But then when Apple comes around and basically makes OSX 10.10 Windows 8 light by stealing tons of features including parts of the search function.. then suddenly it is revolutionary..

win 8 adds little to the common mouse keyboard user,most still use aftermarket software to eliminate metro.

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LOL you have clearly NOT USED IT!

win 8 can multitask,but not very well,ofcourse dos could technically multitask as well,but it is a pain much like a tablet os,vs win 95-win7 in which multitasking was seamless.

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Windows 8 can multitask just as well as previous versions... how about trying it out..eh?

ive seen the start menu,yes its metro combined with the old start menu,but it will not go unused,the fact the average windows user and low market sales points to the fact the start menu was widely used,just because you and few others didnt use it,doesnt mean it wasnt used,infact it was used from win 95 on,so its standard for any windows user,and even linux user excluding ubuntu users,but ofcourse the newer ubuntu menu has had massive backlash as well,so far touchscreen environments on desktops have never shown to be successful.

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It was NOT widely used LOL. That is the whole ****ing point. I do support as a living and most people I support rarely used the start button, because they had pinned everything to the desktop. Microsoft's own statistics proved this. It was and is useless even in Linux, where people pin stuff they use to the desktop.

finally,apple makes two environments,a desktop and a touch os,ms tried to make a one size fits all,even aple was smart enough to see a jack of all trades master of none was a bad idea.it took win8 quite a while to beat ios in market share,given windows owns around 95% of the market share,yet win 8 in 2 years barely beat an os with around 2-3% market share,shows how bad win 8 was adopted.

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LOL you have no idea what you are talking about. Windows 8 has 12+% of the market. Mac has under 5%. And new Windows operating systems are always slow in the uptake. Windows 7 took ages to get going because people were back then also bitching about the changes. Hell I had a client last week that went from XP to 7 and he started off bitching about how they had changed the folder icons.. I mean come on!

PeteEU said:

Eh? You have not used Windows 8.1 update 1 I am guessing because this is utter bull**** what you are saying. I can have 3-4 different apps side by side on my screen and can move between them as I wish.



Sorry but you have NO idea what the hell you are talking about. Have you even used Windows 8 because it sounds like you have not. You dont have to use the metro interface or the metro apps if you dont want to in desktop. Now if you are one of the handful of people that need to use the old classic start menu for some stupid reason, then yes you are out of luck, you have to use the start page... but it is far far far more functional than the old start menu. For one you can just start typing to search for files or things instead of having to click in a search field. You can also on this page, if you want to use it.. set it up as you wish... something you could not do with the old Start menu.



No it did not. It pissed off a few people, and that was picked up by Apple PR folk and Microsoft haters and they went with it pushing often bull**** about the OS. I remember so official reviewers from CNET and other sites publishing utter lies about how the OS worked and they were exposed big time (but the stories never corrected of course) in the comments section. There was one idiot reviewer that said he could not find anything in Windows 8 and that search was pathetic.. WHAT? But then when Apple comes around and basically makes OSX 10.10 Windows 8 light by stealing tons of features including parts of the search function.. then suddenly it is revolutionary..



LOL you have clearly NOT USED IT!



Windows 8 can multitask just as well as previous versions... how about trying it out..eh?



It was NOT widely used LOL. That is the whole ****ing point. I do support as a living and most people I support rarely used the start button, because they had pinned everything to the desktop. Microsoft's own statistics proved this. It was and is useless even in Linux, where people pin stuff they use to the desktop.



LOL you have no idea what you are talking about. Windows 8 has 12+% of the market. Mac has under 5%. And new Windows operating systems are always slow in the uptake. Windows 7 took ages to get going because people were back then also bitching about the changes. Hell I had a client last week that went from XP to 7 and he started off bitching about how they had changed the folder icons.. I mean come on!

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no i do not have win 8.1 update,just win 8.0

i am currently sending this off my win 8 gaming desktop,so yes i have win 8,and yes if you dont have a custom start button you are forced to use the folder icon or use metro to navigate anywhere.



no its pissed off most users,the fact that the vast bulk of internet sites are filled with windows users crying about it and the fact its adoption is super low shows it was universally hated and rejected by most,you say only a few hated metro and used the start button,yeah right thats why win8 has a low adoption rate and people flat out going out of their way to avoid it.

yes i have used it,and still use it,but i use third party apps to disable metro and bring it back to win 7 functionality.

yes win 8 can multitask well in desktop,but in metro its a nightmare unless you have a crapload of time on your hands and are so devoted to microsoft you will spend the time to learn anything new they put out when the older version did the same but faster.

the internet,market share,and mass rejection of win 8 say otherwise,so its your opinion,vs the market,the entire internet,and win 8's crappy market shares that made win me look like a success.


yes it has 12%,and it took a long time to get there,btw your showing % of win users using win 8,not win 8's overall market share,which is around 6%,vs macos's 4.5%
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beerftw said:

no i do not have win 8.1 update,just win 8.0

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Then install it and learn something instead of bitching about Windows 8 with falsehoods and crap.

PeteEU said:

Then install it and learn something instead of bitching about Windows 8 with falsehoods and crap.

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adding x to metro apps really doesnt entice me when i cant stand metro in the first place,its easier to simply download a replacement start menu and ignore metro alltogether,restoring win 7 gui.

fyi win 7 is still growing faster than win 8 and win 8.1,considering win 7 was released in 09,why is an outdated os growing faster than a new one?

beerftw said:

win 8 can multitask,but not very well

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LOL!!

You woke up to a new day and the first thing you do is continue the BS from the previous day.

Yesterday, you said you multitask with what?...14-16 windows open at the same time? That sounds pretty good for multitasking, don't you think? Especially since you, as you said, are running Win8. LOL!!

And now you admit that you are ONLY running Win8. You haven't even upgraded to Win8.1 OR updated to Win8.1 Update 1!!! Dude...that's like running XP or Win7 without applying any of the service packs. Hell, have you even applied any of the monthly security fixes???

Dude...why would you even THINK of running any program without updating it? There are reasons why companies update their products, you know? And they are freaking FREE!!

Well...I got to tell you that I figured out yesterday that you are doing just like you do in the political threads. Repeating crap, spinning crap, spouting hyperbole...that kind of thing...all because you don't like "metro". You are doing a disservice to anyone doesn't know better because you don't mind spouting BS at them, but those who do know better see right past your BS.

Don't bother responding to me, dude. I won't be answering you anymore. Your little "debate forum" tricks don't hold a ounce of water with me and I won't waste my time talking to you when the topic has anything to do with computers.

You are dismissed.

Mycroft said:

Regardless that "every other OS" thing, Win8 is not like Win ME. ME had serious, crippling problems that were deep in the OS. It just didn't work. Win8 works...and it works very well.

I will agree that MS made some serious mistakes in how they marketed Win8, especially in regard to the Start Screen and to Win RT. But it started out solid and has gotten better with the updates and upgrades.

In spite of all that, I would never recommend getting Win8 if you are happy with Win7.

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Nononononononono I wasn't saying it was "LIKE" Me, I'm saying that the rollout garnered the same reaction.
I personally don't have a bloody thing against Win8, just don't need or want to blow away my OS yet.
I suspect that at some point in the near future my next purchase very well could be a Win8 or "Win9" machine so I am only referring to the disastrous rollout.
I hear from plenty of peers in the industry that 8 has performance perks.
My hardware profile is similar to yours so I am certain I would get them too, just not ready to blow away the current install, ain't broke so I ain't aiming to fix it LOL.

And by the way, you shouldn't be surprised at folks who rattle out the stuff that beerftw does...:mrgreen:
I belong to a couple of post production forums, one of them is a little more prosumer oriented and I am still reading screeds from people
who see "no reason why they should be forced to upgrade from XP when they can still edit just fine with it" and in the next thread they're bitching about
slow performance when trying to edit H264 media.

Yeah well OF COURSE because it didn't really EXIST when XP existed!!! :2mad: and because XP is a 32 bit OS.
I posted that "32 bit is DEAD in the post world" and boy did I get a rash of hate and discontent hahahaha.

Mycroft said:

LOL!!

You woke up to a new day and the first thing you do is continue the BS from the previous day.

Yesterday, you said you multitask with what?...14-16 windows open at the same time? That sounds pretty good for multitasking, don't you think? Especially since you, as you said, are running Win8. LOL!!

And now you admit that you are ONLY running Win8. You haven't even upgraded to Win8.1 OR updated to Win8.1 Update 1!!! Dude...that's like running XP or Win7 without applying any of the service packs. Hell, have you even applied any of the monthly security fixes???

Dude...why would you even THINK of running any program without updating it? There are reasons why companies update their products, you know? And they are freaking FREE!!

Well...I got to tell you that I figured out yesterday that you are doing just like you do in the political threads. Repeating crap, spinning crap, spouting hyperbole...that kind of thing...all because you don't like "metro". You are doing a disservice to anyone doesn't know better because you don't mind spouting BS at them, but those who do know better see right past your BS.

Don't bother responding to me, dude. I won't be answering you anymore. Your little "debate forum" tricks don't hold a ounce of water with me and I won't waste my time talking to you when the topic has anything to do with computers.

You are dismissed.

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i was referring to metro,not win 8 in general,the win 8 desktop multitasks quite well,but metro itself does quite poorly,as it was more designed as a singletasked phone tab ui for touchscreen.