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sangha said:

Umm, no that's not how it works

Enterprise level entities have programmers on staff. That's who does the programming to add new functionality to existing apps.

Giving mobile devices the ability to run their current apps and access their current databases does not require upgrading the existing applications. All that is required is for them to write new User Interface code that is appropriate for mobile devices (because mobile devices have smaller displays and are based on touchscreens, not a mouse)




Enterprise entities are not worried about how your games run on Win8.

Apps developed to run on Win7 and XP will run under Win8. In addition, there is no need for an enterprise to upgrade their servers to Win8 in order to use mobile devices. All they need to do is to write the Win8 code (using a Win8 development tool such as Visual Studio) for mobile devices because it's the mobile devices which will be running Win8.




Yes, that separate dept you speak of is called "the IT dept" which, in an enterprise, has programmers working on new development.

And the end users who are using those specialized in-house developed applications already know how the app works. The only difference is the user interface - it runs on a smaller display and uses touch instead of a mouse.





MS doesn't give a crap about lumber mills.

Their target is industries where mobile will improve the efficiency of their operations by moving computing power to where it's needed instead of being tied to a desktop.

Right now, when a doctor or a nurse sees a patient in a hospital bed, they write down their findings, test results, prescriptions, etc. At same later point, they enter that same data into a computer system. With mobile devices, they can enter that info right into the database right away, which eliminates work. If it's prescription data, it can be checked against the list of drugs the patient is already taking to prevent drug interactions. If there's a problem, the doctor will know immediately, preventing an "adverse event". If tests were done, the results can be checked against a database to see if they indicate a problem with the patient. In fact, someday the machines doing the testing will plug directly into the mobile device eliminating the need for anyone to enter the test results into the database. Instead it will happen automatically.



MS no longer supports Win3.1 Enterprises aren't willing to go on forever being dependent on unsupported OS's. Maybe your lumber mill (a dying industry) is willing to do so, but MS doesn't give a crap about lumber mills (or how your Win3.1 games for that matter either)

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beerftw said:

1 thats basically what i said,they use teams for development,now no company will focus all its recources into new operating systems unless that company focuses on software design.

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2 i call bs on that,games are not the only thing,all my work software only works on xp and xp only,and will not work on vista or higher or 2000 and lower.alot of business still use xp only software,infact xp still dominated the pc world until win 8 and the announcement that support would end soon,which caused everyone to buy win 7 not win 8.

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3 theres your problem,in your mindset your assuming all industry is within the app/tech world,while most of the american industry isnt,and uses windows for a wide number of functions,microsoft ignoring those functions demonstrates why business and the general public arent adopting win 8 like they did earlier operating systems.so microsoft has to not only support its own business software,it has to provide an advantage over the previous os as a platform for business developed software to run on.

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4 the point was if it isnt broke it wont be fixed or changed.for the lumber mill example,that machine would costs millions to replace,just simply to have a newer os and computer hardware,but still perform the same function.in my industry mechanics,it was less than a decade ago the major car scanner companies like snapon finally ditched dos in favor of windows ce and xp,which they are still using now.again the reason being the old dos based programmig still did its job,and the later operating systems offered no advantage until touchscreen technology became cheap,in which they finally adopted windows xp and for some 7 just for touchscreen capability.

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sangha said:

:doh

1) Enterprise level entities already have programmers devoted to development. There's no need to focus all of its' resources on a new operating system. You don't even have to install Win8 on any servers or desktops. Win8 only needs to be running on the mobile devices and the desktops (but only the desktops of the programmers who will be writing the s/w for the mobile devices)




Call BS all you want, it's still true.

Besides, enterprise level entities aren't running so far behind the way your lumber factory is. They're running SQL Server, Oracle, etc on newer OS's.

The enterprise level software environment consists of much more than desktops.




It's not just tech industries that will benefit by moving it's applications away from the desktop out where it's most needed. Lawyers, salespeople, delivery people, retail, and a wide range of other professionals will benefit from being able to access and process information in locations other than their desktop.



Companies that don't keep up with technology tend to become out competed by companies that gain the efficiencies that come with better and more thoroughly integrated technology solutions.

Deny it all you want, but the computing world is going mobile with touchscreens and businesses are eager to go along for the ride

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beerftw said:

on number 2,yes quite a few enterprises are running quite behind,the fact that they were still using xp in droves up til the date microsoft announced it would end support,and a decade old operating system dominated the business world and still does shows they are behind,and only offer to move ahead if it offers an advantage.

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on number 3,accessing information outside your desktop has been available for a long time,there are already web servers and clouds to host such stuff,documents are widely available in pdf which is universal and works across devices and operating systems,the only major thing that changed was the addition of tablets over conventional laptops,in which windows tabs arent selling very well at all,and ipads which were bought in droves by business are currently being rejected by the same business who bought them,realizing tablets couldnt do nearly half the function of a laptop.

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last point,how would a company that runs a sawmill machine on win 8 outcompete with one that runs it on win 3.1.thats the point,there is absolutely no advantage to upgrade,especially when hardware is intertwined with software,and the upgrade costs millions to offer absolutely zero benefit.in running things like servers newer will run better,but in thing like manufacturing automotive etc,there is no advantage to the upgrade in most cases in terms of productivity,in most cases your porting the old software to a new os,but its still the same software,and still functions the same.like i states last post,automitive only recently uppgraded most of its systems due to touchscreen technology becoming cheaper.

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