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    Re: U.S. airstrike hits al-Shabab in Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    Somalia is a lot more stable today than during the days of Blackhawk Down: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia. But no Club Med.
    I was there pre Blackhawk. Wild west X10 for sure.
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    Re: U.S. airstrike hits al-Shabab in Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i support wartime marginal tax rates until every conflict has ceased. i also support requiring a formal declaration of war before any war can begin.
    War has become the new normal, especially after Bush let the cork out of the Mideast stability bottle by getting rid of Saddam. Old news but we're still paying the price today, like that airstrike in Somalia.
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    Re: U.S. airstrike hits al-Shabab in Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    War has become the new normal, especially after Bush let the cork out of the Mideast stability bottle by getting rid of Saddam. Old news but we're still paying the price today, like that airstrike in Somalia.
    if we require shared sacrifice, a constant state of war will probably become less normal. even hawks on an anonymous message board are generally unwilling to pay extra for it.

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    Re: U.S. airstrike hits al-Shabab in Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    War has become the new normal, especially after Bush let the cork out of the Mideast stability bottle by getting rid of Saddam. Old news but we're still paying the price today, like that airstrike in Somalia.
    Al Shabab is an Al Qaeda affiliate IIRC. Al Qaeda predates Saddam.
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    Re: U.S. airstrike hits al-Shabab in Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    if we require shared sacrifice, a constant state of war will probably become less normal. even hawks on an anonymous message board are generally unwilling to pay extra for it.
    Most Americans don't know anything about their own state or country, let alone what we are doing in some remote s***-hole in a country in Africa they could not find on a map.
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    Re: U.S. airstrike hits al-Shabab in Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    Most Americans don't know anything about their own state or country, let alone what we are doing in some remote s***-hole in a country in Africa they could not find on a map.
    if wartime tax rates were crushing, knowledge of geography would increase exponentially, i'd guess. i support extremely high wartime tax rates for all brackets on all income, especially for the middle class. if we do this, we will choose our wars very carefully. also, shared sacrifice should be a priority for every US citizen.

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    Re: U.S. airstrike hits al-Shabab in Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    if wartime tax rates were crushing, knowledge of geography would increase exponentially, i'd guess. i support extremely high wartime tax rates for all brackets on all income, especially for the middle class. if we do this, we will choose our wars very carefully. also, shared sacrifice should be a priority for every US citizen.
    Some wars we don't get to choose. They're forced on us by non-state actors.

    Last week al-Shabab attacked a semi-soft target in Nairobi. If we don't want next weeks attack to be in Miami, then we need to be proactive.

    Yes, this type of warfare is generational. Due to power disparities, this is how terrorists must frame and prosecute their conflicts.


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    Re: U.S. airstrike hits al-Shabab in Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Looks like more terrorists just got recruited.
    Then we'll kill them too. We have plenty of bombs.

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    Re: U.S. airstrike hits al-Shabab in Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    How about we stop being cops of the world? We didnt have any terrorists as enemies until we started messing with other countries.
    The West has had terrorists as enemies since 638. At that time, the Byzantines and eventually Europe were the targets.
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    Re: U.S. airstrike hits al-Shabab in Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    How about we stop being cops of the world? We didnt have any terrorists as enemies until we started messing with other countries.
    Nah. Unless you consider failing to stay on our side of the ocean as "messing with other countries". This allah inspired terrorism is more of the same ever since the 7th century.

    But one cannot get around what Jefferson heard when he went with John Adams to wait upon Tripoli’s ambassador to London in March 1785. When
    they inquired by what right the Barbary states preyed upon American shipping, enslaving both crews and passengers, America’s two foremost envoys were informed that “it was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
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