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    Malema says he is ‘maybe’ behind farm murders

    This is a HUGE allegation, the 28's are one of South Africa's most brutal prison gangs, allegedly Malema promised to help one of the 28 members kill white farmers.

    It is what Afriforum have been saying all along, White farm murders are premeditated and politically motivated due to the level of brutality of these attacks, the ANC must get to the bottom of this, if they don't investigate and make all findings public (I don't trust them there's too much corruption in South Africa) that would make the ANC imo complicit.

    According to reporter Simnikiwe Hlatshaneni, who attended the launch of Roets’ new book Kill the Boer: “In a gruesome presentation on the brutality of attacks on farmers in isolated areas, a sound clip that was part of a Carte Blanche investigation last year has a man speaking in Afrikaans saying Malema promised to help him continue killing farmers when he was released from prison. The person is supposedly a member of the brutal prison gang the 28s”.
    https://citizen.co.za/news/south-afr...-farm-murders/

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    Re: Malema says he is ‘maybe’ behind farm murders

    Here is more information on how the numbers gang operate


    THE NUMBERS
    The Numbers - Prison Tattoo on youth The Numbers are split into three chapters: 26s, 27s and 28s. The 26s concentrate on gambling and smuggling and bringing in wealth, 27s are the guardians of gang law and the “peace” keepers. The 28s are the warriors who are expected to stab or kill rival gangs, prison guards and disobedient gang members. The 28s are further split into the silver line and the gold line. The gold line being the warriors and the silver being the ‘females’. The silver line are seen as the sex slaves, and the only way to get out of the silver line and into the gold line is by killing or maiming enemies. So if you want to stop being raped, you have to kill.
    The Numbers Gang – South Africa’s Biggest Gang – Sick Chirpse

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    Re: Malema says he is ‘maybe’ behind farm murders

    I've been to SA, if I were SA now I'd lease out whatever I owned and get the hell out. By not selling it (if you could) you keep it in your name with hopes of actually recouping it at some later date, that said, I'd be glad to get out with my life and family now.

    I saw the writing on the wall in the 80's and would have left then if I were a SA citizen.

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    Re: Malema says he is ‘maybe’ behind farm murders

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty louie View Post
    I've been to SA, if I were SA now I'd lease out whatever I owned and get the hell out. By not selling it (if you could) you keep it in your name with hopes of actually recouping it at some later date, that said, I'd be glad to get out with my life and family now.

    I saw the writing on the wall in the 80's and would have left then if I were a SA citizen.
    There were real hope between 1995 and 2000, since then it's been a very steep downhill. Corruption and mismanagement have gutted the country, there's no turning back.

    Stolen Tax Money - Corruption Gutted South Africa’s Tax Agency. Now the Nation Is Paying the Price.
    Stolen Transport money - Transnet contracts, exposed in #Guptaleaks, to feature in FBI probe

    if you steal the money meant for maitaining roads, new busses and trains means people can't get to work. This apparently is the 6am train, the next train is suppose to come 10 minutes later but everyone knows it won't show until 10am which will make them late for work.



    Mismanagement and corruption have broken Eskom, electricity is expensive and in short supply. Over 2000 protests a year due to people losing access to water, sewage and electricity, the money stolen for maintenance and new connections.

    How McKinsey got involved with South Africa's Eskom and Guptas, to its regret

    this video btw vvv just another day in South Africa



    now for the cruel joke, the ANC is going to have to put themselves in jail... President Ramaphosa one of the wealthiest men in South Africa... how do you get to be so wealthy in a country this corrupt I ask you.

    ANC 'shocked by scale of corruption', vows to root it out


    And all of this (money stollen) apparently is the white farmers fault because they are not giving up their land, btw the land distribution process is also corrupt. Land seized have gone to ANC cronies or still remain in government possession, the poor have and will receive none of it.

    The ANC is making a scapegoat out of the white farmers, hoping to redirect the fury of the masses from their stolen pile of gold
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    Re: Malema says he is ‘maybe’ behind farm murders

    The Zulu's and the Boers will stand together against land appropriation,

    Clearly, Zwelitini knows once the ANC are done with the Boers they will come for his 2.8 million hectares of communal tribal lands, the Zulus are about 12 million of the 65 million population but only took I think 2% of the vote in the last election. If Zwelitini plays this right he could gain a bigger share next election (2019) since the ANC corruption have lost them so much support. The constitution as it was drawn up after Apartheid supports a coalition government, the greatest danger however is if the ANC and EFF (Julius Malema - who are the biggest drivers of land appropriation) have enough votes to form a coalition government.

    Zulu King Zwelithini partners with AfriForum to fight land expropriation
    https://www.thesouthafrican.com/zulu...expropriation/

    "Anyone who wants to be elected by us must come and kneel here and commit that I will never touch your land.” - Zulu King Goodwill Zwelithini

    Speaking to the thousands of supporters gathered at the stadium, Zwelithini said:

    “The Zulu nation I’m talking about will not exist if we don’t have food. That’s why I say farmers must come closer so that we discuss what we can do when we talk about agriculture and the availability of enough food in the land.”

    Zwelithini explained that AfriForum was dedicated to the preservation of food security, and as such, was opposed to land expropriation without compensation, saying:

    “I’m asking AfriForum of the Boers to come and help us, as they’ve introduced themselves to me that they are willing to work with me and my father’s people to uplift agriculture in our land in order to have food.

    Because when government started talking about the appropriation of land expropriation without compensation, Boers downed tools. There is no food in South Africa.”

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    Re: Malema says he is ‘maybe’ behind farm murders

    This is a very sad situation. At one time South Africa was a shining beacon of hope in Africa, but reading your accounts HERA is very depressing. RSA has clearly not been well served by its leaders or its western patrons for whom money is king.

    Do you feel that there is any prospect of a Boer / Zulu political alliance?
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    Re: Malema says he is ‘maybe’ behind farm murders

    Quote Originally Posted by Westphalian View Post
    This is a very sad situation. At one time South Africa was a shining beacon of hope in Africa, but reading your accounts HERA is very depressing. RSA has clearly not been well served by its leaders or its western patrons for whom money is king.

    Do you feel that there is any prospect of a Boer / Zulu political alliance?
    I’m not sure it will have a significant outcome either way even if they did. Land expropriation itself is not the problem, it is land expropriation without compensation because many properties are mortgaged to the hilt and in the end the banks may well be the biggest losers.

    Could banks be the biggest losers in expropriation without compensation?
    https://www.fin24.com/Economy/could-...ation-20180301

    If the government decides not to compensate the banks when taking land, R160bn could be wiped off their books

    But to be completely honest West, land expropriation is not what concerns me most.

    Law and order is failing and billions of dollars have been lost due to theft and mismanagement from state funds and state owned enterprises.

    See how much money Eskom and SAA lose every second

    https://mybroadband.co.za/news/busin...ry-second.html

    The country is lost, damage is irreparable and several of the large cities are on the brink of collapse….when that finally happens in the coming decade, all hell will break loose….especially when police are as corrupt as the criminals they are suppose to keep in check.

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    Re: Malema says he is ‘maybe’ behind farm murders

    Quote Originally Posted by HERA the Stars View Post
    I’m not sure it will have a significant outcome either way even if they did. Land expropriation itself is not the problem, it is land expropriation without compensation because many properties are mortgaged to the hilt and in the end the banks may well be the biggest losers.




    But to be completely honest West, land expropriation is not what concerns me most.

    Law and order is failing and billions of dollars have been lost due to theft and mismanagement from state funds and state owned enterprises.




    The country is lost, damage is irreparable and several of the large cities are on the brink of collapse….when that finally happens in the coming decade, all hell will break loose….especially when police are as corrupt as the criminals they are suppose to keep in check.

    Thanks HERA,

    A very sad situation which it's hard to appreciate from here given the lack of coverage of anything African. From reading your links it seems that the big banks, given the influence they carry, may be the best hope of salvation - ironically
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    Re: Malema says he is ‘maybe’ behind farm murders

    1) Wide-spread corruption in the country notwithstanding, Afriforum is a right wing organization that supports White Supremacist ambitions of those Boers wishing the 17th century back.

    2) Goodwill Zwelithini kaBhekuzulu is known for living it up in most kingly fashion, while the majority of his people live in poverty. He considers homosexuality to be sexual abuse and is openly xenophobic in telling non South Africans to get out.

    3) The one true thing in all this lament is that his bid to ally himself with the Boers derives mainly from the fear that Pretoria might take some of his expensive toys away, respectively curb his ever increasing hunger for outrageous government alimony.
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    Re: Malema says he is ‘maybe’ behind farm murders

    Quote Originally Posted by Chagos View Post
    1) Wide-spread corruption in the country notwithstanding, Afriforum is a right wing organization that supports White Supremacist ambitions of those Boers wishing the 17th century back.

    2) Goodwill Zwelithini kaBhekuzulu is known for living it up in most kingly fashion, while the majority of his people live in poverty. He considers homosexuality to be sexual abuse and is openly xenophobic in telling non South Africans to get out.

    3) The one true thing in all this lament is that his bid to ally himself with the Boers derives mainly from the fear that Pretoria might take some of his expensive toys away, respectively curb his ever increasing hunger for outrageous government alimony.
    Afriforum looks after minority rights of white Afrikaners because they are now persecuted.... anyone is right wing from where you are standing Chagos. Personally I think you cling to your position without even putting the slightest thought into it, clinging to the familiar.

    An important point is that the most persecuted groups are not white, they are the Khoisan and the Coloureds (mixed breed from the early Hottentot and white settlers) and I believe Afriforum have offered to speak on their behalf also. Their suffering is awful under the ANC government.

    The Bantu (current ruling ANC government) are migrants from the north, white settlers encountered them for the first time north of the Great Fish River, if land is to be claimed these people (Khoisan and Coloureds) should be first in line.

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