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Democrats propose free college tuition and debt forgiveness!

Aletheia said:
I'd like to invent and fab some 5G CMOS submicron prototypes. Where can I do this on Google?
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What do you think is the first thing you need to know to do that?
 
Samwise said:
What do you think is the first thing you need to know to do that?
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You are the Google search engine educational specialist. Why don't you just summarize all the steps required to successfully do that here?
 
Aletheia said:
You are the Google search engine educational specialist. Why don't you just summarize all the steps required to successfully do that here?
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You have a world of information at your fingertips. You can learn what you like.
 
Aletheia said:
You are the Google search engine educational specialist. Why don't you just summarize all the steps required to successfully do that here?
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Samwise said:
You have a world of information at your fingertips. You can learn what you like.
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I'll answer for you. If you were to go on google and gather a thousand plus references on the topic I described, you would not have the first idea on how to practically translate the knowledge without a formal educational background.
 
Aletheia said:
I'll answer for you. If you were to go on google and gather a thousand plus references on the topic I described, you would not have the first idea on how to practically translate the knowledge without a formal educational background.
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Really? You would need to read materials?
 
We are 3 trillion in debt. For a Rightie to be concerned about the national debt is sheer hypocrisy.
 
Marrybore said:
And yet you called abolishing student loan debts "stupid" and seemed to imply that it only benefits people working in education.
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Sending lesser gifted people to college rarely yields for them the high paying jobs the college promoters promise. But the more government money that is poured into colleges through subsidies and free education offerings the more school officials and administrators are guaranteed high salaries and benefits at the expense of the already heavily-burdened hard-working American taxpayer.
 
Aurora said:
At the same time democrats will promote open border immigration , amnesty to illegals, visa for foreign tech workers. So a college degree will be dumbed down and useless.

Kids graduating high school barely fluent in reading , english, math and science and we expect them to get free college?
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As public schools curricula and teaching methods are dumbed down to increadse graduation rates, so is the overall society dumbed down as a result. Maybe that has something to do with the state of ignorance driving uncivilized kids to tear down statues of people like Washington, Jefferson, Grant and Lincoln, thinking the statues are racist for promoting the Confederacy during the Civil War.
 
Aletheia said:
Actually, your president talks big about visas, but supports h1-b's in his actions. Actions speak louder than words. And if you're worried about schools failing high school kids, you should ask them to quit cutting funding for them.
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Don't buy into the dumbed down lying narrative that as funding for schools increase the kids get smarter. That has never been true. As teacher salaries grow, as government funding for schools increase and as new methods of teaching are developed, the student have gradually gotten less educated as measured by standardized testing.
 
Aletheia said:
Which high paid STEM jobs are asking for candidates with educational backgrounds based on Google searches? Could you post some?
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How will getting a college degree help those with lower intelligence or poorer aptitudes? A little, no doubt, but there are certainly no guarantees. I was foreman on a job back in the early 1980s and one guy on my crew was a 4 year college graduate making average pay at $5/hr. A college degree can help the brightest and more alert, but as IQ and aptitude levels fall so do the chances of landing a high-paying job as a result of obtaining a college degree.

There is a myth that if you have a college degree, you have a job. The fact is that approximately 53% of college graduates are unemployed or working in a job that doesn't require a bachelor's degree. It takes the average college graduate three to six months to secure employment after graduation.

What can students do to improve their chances of finding employment after college? | DO-IT
 
Aletheia said:
I'd like to fabricate and patent some 5G CMOS submicron prototypes. Where can I do this on Google?
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Try designing, manufacturing and marketing your prototype without Google. That would be hard.
 
Aletheia said:
Actually, your president talks big about visas, but supports h1-b's in his actions. Actions speak louder than words. And if you're worried about schools failing high school kids, you should ask them to quit cutting funding for them.
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Dollars spent per pupil is higher than ever. They still pass 12th grade, dumber than ever.
 
Aurora said:
Dollars spent per pupil is higher than ever. They still pass 12th grade, dumber than ever.
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Educational spending looks fairly flat for the last two decades. Do you have a historical source you can provide for that?
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marke said:
Try designing, manufacturing and marketing your prototype without Google. That would be hard.
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Developers have been doing just that for years. Really, I wold love to see a developer that actually uses Google to assist in this process, other than distracting from work with entertainment. About the only thing I could see using it for in a helpful manner, is by looking up patents. But then again, without formal training, one would not understand the patents anyways.
 
Samwise said:
Education is free. It's called Google. What would you like to learn today?
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Google scholar still links to a lot of paywalls. Google does not provide the structure of education people need in order to sort through the vast BS landmass that is out there.
 
bomberfox said:
Google scholar still links to a lot of paywalls. Google does not provide the structure of education people need in order to sort through the vast BS landmass that is out there.
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Google was an example. I was referring to the vast amount of information available online.
 
Samwise said:
Google was an example. I was referring to the vast amount of information available online.
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Its just not really the kind of structured education people need in order to sift through the good and the bad information :)
 
Aletheia said:
Developers have been doing just that for years. Really, I wold love to see a developer that actually uses Google to assist in this process, other than distracting from work with entertainment. About the only thing I could see using it for in a helpful manner, is by looking up patents. But then again, without formal training, one would not understand the patents anyways.
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My father in law was a well respecdted research scientist, and a fine outspoken Christian. He held two degrees from Ohio State, one in Mechanical Engineering and one in Electrical engineering. He did most of his research for which he obtained several patents for his employer, back before the internet was invented (did Al Gore really invent the internet like he claimed?) But before he died my father in law used the internet all the time, especially including Google and especially when doing further research for the two technical engineering books he wrote.
 
marke said:
My father in law was a well respecdted research scientist, and a fine outspoken Christian. He held two degrees from Ohio State, one in Mechanical Engineering and one in Electrical engineering. He did most of his research for which he obtained several patents for his employer, back before the internet was invented (did Al Gore really invent the internet like he claimed?) But before he died my father in law used the internet all the time, especially including Google and especially when doing further research for the two technical engineering books he wrote.
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Sorry to hear about your loss; sounded like a good man. Do you know the book titles?
 
marke said:
Sending lesser gifted people to college rarely yields for them the high paying jobs the college promoters promise. But the more government money that is poured into colleges through subsidies and free education offerings the more school officials and administrators are guaranteed high salaries and benefits at the expense of the already heavily-burdened hard-working American taxpayer.
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And perhaps they've earned it, for educating those who wish to be educated. Education will help even the least "gifted" person.
 
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